Coach K talking about him having the most NPOY....7

[caneintally]

this thread has alot going on but the only thing i will say is you might hate him but JJ Reddick is a great player and was the best player that year . He is way better as a pro then i ever dreamed he would be . Hell is the starting SG for the Clippers , who are one of the 3 most talented teams in the NBA .

 

[.S&C.]

I don't have an issue with Reddick getting it at all. The guy was balling, and as Cand said, I never dreamed he'd be as good a pro as he is. I don't think anyone did.

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by KMKAT:

Originally posted by GonzoCat90:

Am I living in some bizzaro world where Adam Morrison wasn't completely beloved? If there's any "media bias" I would think we've seen that the love guys like Jimmer or McDermott receive is in their favor, not against them. The media LOVES a junior or senior at a small college who comes out of nowhere to be a scoring machine. No one goes to bat for Goliath.

I don't see any way to argue that Redick's numbers, on a team that went 30-3 against elite competition, was undeserving.


By the way, watch the games. Percentages and averages don't tell the entire story. It's why we spent a whole year with Kansas fans trying to tell us Jeff Withey was a better defender than Anthony Davis. Redick's percentages, on that rate of attempts, with that degree of difficulty, were absurd.


And I haaaate JJ Redick.

I'll just state that Morrison's year was as good as Redick, and therefore, it can't be stated that he's this great talent and shooter when someone is right there with him in the same season. Morrison's stats are as good as Redick.

I didn't say Redick didn't earn the award, but it doesn't mean someone else wasn't as deserving. And being on national TV during prime time does help a candidate when the voting takes place.

You said he won the award because of the Dick Vitale and the media. To me that says he didn't earn it. If that's not what you meant, then fine.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Originally posted by Joneslab:

I'm a firm believer that guys who shoot over 40% in this (cliché alert) day and age are elite shooters.

The physicality and defense are smothering. Guys got much cleaner looks just 10 or 15 years ago. Everybody plays defense "attached," which is essentially at a crooked-arm's length. You look at the game before the three-point line and the berth they gave shooters you could often drive a dump truck through. It made for a more aesthetic game but IMO it was also much easier to operate.

This bleeds in to another discussion about the uglification of the game, but it also bears out the fact that these guys who shoot 40+ are marksmen. Very difficult to do what Devin Booker is doing right now with the way guys will try and play virtually in your jersey on the defensive end. Redick was getting that treatment nightly.

Great post.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Originally posted by KMKAT:
No, Redick won because he was on everyone's hit list unlike Morrison.
Its still East Coast bias with the media IMO; you can disagree all you want.

A repeat first-team All-America, Redick received 43 votes from
the 72-member national media panel that selects the weekly Top 25.
Adam Morrison of Gonzaga, who beat Redick in a season-long,
bi-coastal scoring race, got the other 29 votes in the balloting
conducted before the NCAA Tournament.

Should the POY go 3-18 in any game, especially in the Sweet 16? Looks like the voters don't count the tournament in their voting.

Pretty sure voting is done before the NCAA Tournament (at least it was when AD won). And I do disagree. There were 2 viable candidates that year, and the media voted for the one that played on the better team in the better conference by a 43-29 margin. Also Duke was #1 for all but 5 weeks in the season. If anything, that demonstrates the team success angle of awards (which is debatable). And they did this the year after they voted for Andrew Bogut of that east coast team, the Utah Utes. Don't forget the previous 2 to Bogut were Jameer Nelson (although St. Joseph's is in Philly, typically east coast bias is about established power players) and David West (Xavier... eastern timezone so yeah! that east coast bias!).

Media was all over both their nuts all season long. Seriously, does no one else remember Morrison fever as he routinely dropped points all over the likes of... Portland? St. Marys? San Francisco (once had Bill Russell)?

Also, Morrison tied Reddick for the USBWA award and won the Chevrolet award, whatever that is, so it's not like he was unrecognized.

Finally, since apparently this is the new American flag lapel pin idiocy, I love UK and its players. Hooray, UK!