Coach K talking about him having the most NPOY....7

[KMKAT]

None of them named Hurley or Laettner.....Kinda surprised by that stat.

JJ Redick, NPOY.....the media did a great job with him winning that award.

That 1000 win celebration looked like they had already won the championship this year.

I think they could be headed for a hard reality going forward.



This post was edited on 1/27 9:40 AM by KMKAT

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by KMKAT:
None of them named Hurley or Laettner.....Kinda surprised by that stat.

JJ Redick, NPOY.....the media did a great job with him winning that award.

That 1000 win celebration looked like they had already won the championship this year.

I think they could be headed for a hard reality going forward.



This post was edited on 1/27 9:40 AM by KMKAT

Laettner did win Player of the Year in 1992. I was listening to the interview, he mentioned that he's had 7 NPOY and that doesn't include other great players he's had such as Grant Hill or Bobby Hurley ... not Laettner.

Who do you think should have won NPOY in 2006 instead of J.J. Redick? If the media won him the award, you must have someone else in mind that deserved it more.

 

[KMKAT]

Originally posted by STL_Cat:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
None of them named Hurley or Laettner.....Kinda surprised by that stat.

JJ Redick, NPOY.....the media did a great job with him winning that award.

That 1000 win celebration looked like they had already won the championship this year.

I think they could be headed for a hard reality going forward.



This post was edited on 1/27 9:40 AM by KMKAT

Laettner did win Player of the Year in 1992. I was listening to the interview, he mentioned that he's had 7 NPOY and that doesn't include other great players he's had such as Grant Hill or Bobby Hurley ... not Laettner.

Who do you think should have won NPOY in 2006 instead of J.J. Redick? If the media won him the award, you must have someone else in mind that deserved it more.

I thought Adam Morrison had a year that rivaled Reddick, and he averaged more points and less help for Gonzaga. Duke was a 1 seed and lost to a 4 seed; Gonzaga was a 3 seed and lost to a 2 seed. Does that account for anything? Probably not, but I think Morrison had a better season and Redick got the Vitale hype.

This post was edited on 1/27 11:41 AM by KMKAT

 

[colonelcat78]

Agree with KMKAT, Adam Morrison was the best player in college that season.

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by KMKAT:

Originally posted by STL_Cat:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
None of them named Hurley or Laettner.....Kinda surprised by that stat.

JJ Redick, NPOY.....the media did a great job with him winning that award.

That 1000 win celebration looked like they had already won the championship this year.

I think they could be headed for a hard reality going forward.



This post was edited on 1/27 9:40 AM by KMKAT

Laettner did win Player of the Year in 1992. I was listening to the interview, he mentioned that he's had 7 NPOY and that doesn't include other great players he's had such as Grant Hill or Bobby Hurley ... not Laettner.

Who do you think should have won NPOY in 2006 instead of J.J. Redick? If the media won him the award, you must have someone else in mind that deserved it more.

I thought Adam Morrison had a year that rivaled Reddick, and he averaged more points and less help for Gonzaga. Duke was a 1 seed and lost to a 4 seed; Gonzaga was a 3 seed and lost to a 2 seed. Does that account for anything? Probably not, but I think Morrison had a better season and Redick got the Vitale hype.

Morrison over Redick wouldn't have been egregious, but Redick was the better player. Redick averaged damn near 27 ppg playing in the ACC. Your best argument is that Morrison averaged a little more ppg than Redick and lost to a better team in the tournament. Those are pretty weak arguments IMO.

To say a guy who averaged 26.8 ppg and led his team to a 30-3 record and an ACC Championship going into the NCAA Tournament only won NPOY because of Vitale hype is completely asinine.

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Redick deserved it, he was unbelievable that year.

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:
Redick deserved it, he was unbelievable that year.

Exactly. The guy averaged 26.8 ppg playing in the ACC (Morrison played in the WAC ... c'mon) and every single team Duke played was playing defense designed to stop JJ Redick. Still averaged damn near 27 ppg. That's crazy. He was and is a better player than Adam Morrison. Morrison wouldn't have put up those numbers in the ACC, jmho.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:
Redick deserved it, he was unbelievable that year.

Unbelievable suggests numbers not seen before, or rarely seen. His numbers were very good but nowhere near "unbelievable" status.

 

[STL_Cat]

Man ... the things some people pick out on here to nitpick. smh ...

 

[michaeluk26]

I hated Redick but that dude was a straight up assassin and would let you know about it.

 

[uk78]

I hate Duke. But, that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge they have a great coach and have had and do have great players. Duke remains one of those elite programs that attracts top talent and have done it the past couple decades whereas Kentucky certainly had its lapses especially late in the Tubby years and that coach right after him.......Now, Kentucky is the cream of the crop.

Redick was NOPY and absolutely deserved it. Yes it can be argued that some foul calls were the typical gifted Duke calls, but he was a great college player as was Laettner. In fact Laettner was a better college player than Shaq. Remember we are not talking about Pro careers but what was accomplished in college.

Okafor right now certainly is a leader for NPOY. WCS changes the game more but he can't have these no-show games too often if he wants to stay in the running. I hope Towns shows the offensive skills he had preseason, mixes it up and quits those fade away shots as Cal desires, and by the tourney is equal to Okafor (he may be ahead defensively). But, Duke without Okafor would completely change who they are.

 

[CUT-NETS]

Originally posted by michaeluk26:
I hated Redick but that dude was a straight up assassin and would let you know about it.

Best shooter I have ever seen

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:
Redick deserved it, he was unbelievable that year.

Unbelievable suggests numbers not seen before, or rarely seen. His numbers were very good but nowhere near "unbelievable" status.

He probably wasn't an assassin or killer that year either. I bet Wall and Cousins didn't really poop ice cream either.

I guess we should stop using analogies in sports, thanks for your insight!

By the way, he's the ACC's leading all-time scorer and also held the NCAA record for all time 3 pointers, so those were truly, literally "unbelievable" numbers that had not been seen before.





This post was edited on 1/27 11:29 AM by Vandalayindustries

 

[STL_Cat]

Redick was much, much more the focal point of opposing team's defenses than either Lamb or Booker. I love our guys. I think Booker has the potential to be a great one, but those %s don't come close to telling the whole story.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:
Redick deserved it, he was unbelievable that year.

Unbelievable suggests numbers not seen before, or rarely seen. His numbers were very good but nowhere near "unbelievable" status.

He probably wasn't an assassin or killer that year either. I bet Wall and Cousins didn't really poop ice cream either.

I guess we should stop using analogies in sports, thanks for your insight!

By the way, he's the ACC's leading all-time scorer and also held the NCAA record for all time 3 pointers, so those were truly, literally "unbelievable" numbers that had not been seen before.


This post was edited on 1/27 11:29 AM by Vandalayindustries

If you spent a fraction of the time praising or defending our guys and team as you do others, you wouldn't have the reputation you have. Never ever see you in threads unless it's to defend a rival, or some commentator saying something negative about us or praising other teams/players, or to bad mouth UK fans.

 

[.S&C.]

^^

You'll have to excuse vandalay.

Seriously.., it's not easy to remember which team you root for.

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by MdWIldcat55:
"those %s don't come close to telling the whole story."

Not suggesting they are the whole story. But not numbers to be dismissed either.

Duke had plenty of talent around Redick, and maybe more outside shooting options than Kentucky had in 2012 or 2015. So it isn't like Redick was being triple teamed while Lamb and Booker were given free looks.

What was actually most interesting to me was not the raw percentages, but that Lamb, Booker and Redick all three averaged close to the same number of makes as a freshman, then Lamb and Redick averaged the same number of makes as a sophomore.

What that tells me is if either Lamb or Booker had played until he was a senior, Kentucky might well have expected the same progression in average makes per game.

Maybe not triple teamed, but he was the focal point of opposing team's defenses. Entire defensive game plans were in place to contain Redick.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Originally posted by uk78:
I hate Duke. But, that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge they have a great coach and have had and do have great players. Duke remains one of those elite programs that attracts top talent and have done it the past couple decades whereas Kentucky certainly had its lapses especially late in the Tubby years and that coach right after him.......Now, Kentucky is the cream of the crop.

Redick was NOPY and absolutely deserved it. Yes it can be argued that some foul calls were the typical gifted Duke calls, but he was a great college player as was Laettner. In fact Laettner was a better college player than Shaq. Remember we are not talking about Pro careers but what was accomplished in college.

Okafor right now certainly is a leader for NPOY. WCS changes the game more but he can't have these no-show games too often if he wants to stay in the running. I hope Towns shows the offensive skills he had preseason, mixes it up and quits those fade away shots as Cal desires, and by the tourney is equal to Okafor (he may be ahead defensively). But, Duke without Okafor would completely change who they are.

Noones saying K isn't great, or that Duke hasn't had great players. We're saying theyre not as great as the media makes them.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

Redick deserved it. His numbers across the board, in terms of rates/efficiency, were nearly all better than Adam Morrison's and Redick played against a much tougher schedule.

 

[FtWorthCat]

Redick was certainly one of the best free throw shooters I've ever seen. For best shooter ever, the first two that come to mind are Stephen Curry and Chris Mullen, without looking at the stats. Reddick shot Duke out of the game against Michigan State in the Sweet Sixteen that year with terrible shot selection.
This post was edited on 1/27 12:16 PM by FtWorthCat

 

[KMKAT]

Yeah, Maravich nor Bird were better shooters than the great Redick.....strange how it doesn't translate to the pro game huh?

There were plenty of better shooters than Redick....he was greatly helped with the 3 pt line.

And if you don't think the East coast is biased when it involves media attention, you're kidding yourself. Morrison had as good a year as Redick.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:06 PM by KMKAT

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Yeah, Maravich nor Bird were better shooters than the great Redick.....strange how it doesn't translate to the pro game huh?

There were plenty of better shooters than Redick....he was greatly helped with the 3 pt line.

JJ Redick is actually having a nice pro career. Averaging 14.9 ppg for the Cllips right now. He's been a better pro than I expected. Not sure why you're bringing up the pro game anyway, the guy you said should have won NPOY over Redick is one of the biggest NBA draft busts of all time.

You're clearly just hating on JJ Redick here, just admit it. You said a guy who averaged 26.8 ppg and led his team to a 30-3 record and an ACC Championship only won NPOY because of Dick Vitale. Not taking much else you say about Redick seriously ... no offense.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:08 PM by STL_Cat

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:

Originally posted by Vandalayindustries:
Redick deserved it, he was unbelievable that year.

Unbelievable suggests numbers not seen before, or rarely seen. His numbers were very good but nowhere near "unbelievable" status.

He probably wasn't an assassin or killer that year either. I bet Wall and Cousins didn't really poop ice cream either.

I guess we should stop using analogies in sports, thanks for your insight!

By the way, he's the ACC's leading all-time scorer and also held the NCAA record for all time 3 pointers, so those were truly, literally "unbelievable" numbers that had not been seen before.


This post was edited on 1/27 11:29 AM by Vandalayindustries

If you spent a fraction of the time praising or defending our guys and team as you do others, you wouldn't have the reputation you have. Never ever see you in threads unless it's to defend a rival, or some commentator saying something negative about us or praising other teams/players, or to bad mouth UK fans.

Maybe you should ignore me then. Or pay for HOB and then you'll see all my insightful basketball takes. Or just let me keep irritating you which is fine too.

I forget sometimes that we're unable to have any type of objective discussion on this site without being called a fan of another team.

 

[.S&C.]

Jason Objectivity is fine. I think cal is an average floor coach and have expressed that. That's as objective as it gets for a real UK fan.

What some posters like him do is pompous, over the top, and immature. Specifically looking to be a contrarian every time you post does not make you objective.

 

[CatFanInTheBathtub]

I don't care one way or the otherabout whether JJ Redick should have won player of the year or not. But anyone acting as if he was the best shooter they ever saw is being absolutely ridiculous. The numbers just do not support that. Go back and look at the top 3 point percentage shooters that year and he was not even near the top and that's just one season much less ever. the word that you guys are looking for to describe him is "prolific" because he was a volume shooter and did make a lot. but again percentage wise he was way behind the best ever
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[KMKAT]

Originally posted by STL_Cat:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Yeah, Maravich nor Bird were better shooters than the great Redick.....strange how it doesn't translate to the pro game huh?

There were plenty of better shooters than Redick....he was greatly helped with the 3 pt line.

JJ Redick is actually having a nice pro career. Averaging 14.9 ppg for the Cllips right now. He's been a better pro than I expected. Not sure why you're bringing up the pro game anyway, the guy you said should have won NPOY over Redick is one of the biggest NBA draft busts of all time.

You're clearly just hating on JJ Redick here, just admit it. You said a guy who averaged 26.8 ppg and led his team to a 30-3 record and an ACC Championship only won NPOY because of Dick Vitale. Not taking much else you say about Redick seriously ... no offense.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:08 PM by STL_Cat

Just because you slurp Redick doesn't make me a hater; I said Morrison had a better year, and I read here he's the greatest shooter ever and because he played in the ACC.

You don't like my answer or my reasons, ok.

If Redick was that great, then the pro game should allow his game to be even better right? He's average as a pro and I never said Morrison was a great anything. He had just as good a season as Redick for one year....you read it as you see fit.


This post was edited on 1/27 1:42 PM by KMKAT

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Rondo should have won NPOY in 2006 if not for media bias, USMELL!, Billy PACCker, Jerry Tipton, the Gaytors, UNCHEAT, dUKe bias, the NCAA screwing us over again, the coaches voter bias, O$U, Bobby Knight, the Loosiers!, Corey Maguette, Reggie Bush, free tattoos, Free Enes!, UofLOL, Jerry Abramson, Cheatum Hall, ASSembly Hall, Tubby, and Joanne Pitino.

 

[STL_Cat]

Originally posted by KMKAT:

Originally posted by STL_Cat:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Yeah, Maravich nor Bird were better shooters than the great Redick.....strange how it doesn't translate to the pro game huh?

There were plenty of better shooters than Redick....he was greatly helped with the 3 pt line.

JJ Redick is actually having a nice pro career. Averaging 14.9 ppg for the Cllips right now. He's been a better pro than I expected. Not sure why you're bringing up the pro game anyway, the guy you said should have won NPOY over Redick is one of the biggest NBA draft busts of all time.

You're clearly just hating on JJ Redick here, just admit it. You said a guy who averaged 26.8 ppg and led his team to a 30-3 record and an ACC Championship only won NPOY because of Dick Vitale. Not taking much else you say about Redick seriously ... no offense.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:08 PM by STL_Cat

Just because you slurp Redick doesn't make me a hater; I said Morrison had a better year, and I read here he's the greatest shooter ever and because he played in the ACC.

You don't like my answer or my reasons, ok.

If Redick was that great, then the pro game should allow his game to be even better right? He's average as a pro and I never said Morrison was a great anything. He had just as good a season as Redick for one year....you read it as you see fit.


This post was edited on 1/27 1:42 PM by KMKAT

I'm not "slurping" Redick, I'm calling you ridiculous for saying Redick won the NPOY because of Vitale, the media, or anyone else.

"If Redick was that great, then the pro game should allow his game to be even better right?"

I don't even know what this means.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:52 PM by STL_Cat

 

[Joneslab]

The guy scored more than 2700 points in college. If you can't put the superlative "unbelievable" on that, then I don't know who deserves it.

Guys like Salim Stoudamire were more discerning with their shots and thus had a higher percentage, but this is still a guy who went over 40% from three while averaging 26+ as a senior.

Incredible player.

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Originally posted by Joneslab:
The guy scored more than 2700 points in college. If you can't put the superlative "unbelievable" on that, then I don't know who deserves it.

Guys like Salim Stoudamire were more discerning with their shots and thus had a higher percentage, but this is still a guy who went over 40% from three while averaging 26+ as a senior.

Incredible player.

Maybe you should look up the word "unbelievable" in the dictionary buddy! Also, "incredible" means impossible to believe. What Redick did was entirely believable so please do not use that term to describe him. Do it once more and you might as well just go to the Duke board you fraud.

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Morrison deserved to lose NPOY because:
His stupid haircutHis odd ticks on the courtCrying on the court after season ended

 

[Joneslab]

I'm a firm believer that guys who shoot over 40% in this (cliché alert) day and age are elite shooters.

The physicality and defense are smothering. Guys got much cleaner looks just 10 or 15 years ago. Everybody plays defense "attached," which is essentially at a crooked-arm's length. You look at the game before the three-point line and the berth they gave shooters you could often drive a dump truck through. It made for a more aesthetic game but IMO it was also much easier to operate.

This bleeds in to another discussion about the uglification of the game, but it also bears out the fact that these guys who shoot 40+ are marksmen. Very difficult to do what Devin Booker is doing right now with the way guys will try and play virtually in your jersey on the defensive end. Redick was getting that treatment nightly.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by .S&C.:

What some posters like him do is pompous, over the top, and immature. Specifically looking to be a contrarian every time you post does not make you objective.

Sure it can. Maybe someone can seem like a contrarian when they post because they only respond to things they don't agree with. I certainly don't always respond to posts I agree with because there's nothing else to add to the discussion. My point was made by someone else. If I feel there's another argument to be made, then that's when I would chime in with that differing viewpoint. Doesn't mean I'm only a contrarian, it only means I speak up more when I don't agree with something... not that I disagree with EVERYTHING.

Rafters has always had difficulty differentiating between the two. I like Vandalay because more often than not we agree. I think he's a good poster because he can separate his fandom from his beliefs and give opposing views from a different angle. I like those kinds of people. They aren't blinded. Just me, though.

Besides, it's a message board. It's not real life. I don't even take things with a grain of salt or however that dumb expression goes. I just converse.

I shouldn't be surprised you admire Vandalay. At least you post positively about the team and UK. He never does. What is admirable about constantly defending people who speak negatively about UK, or about defending positive stuff said about rivals, but never about UK? Or bashing the fanbase? Doing so at times is one thing. Entirely different when it's all you do, which is his MO.

 

[KMKAT]

Originally posted by STL_Cat:

Originally posted by KMKAT:

Originally posted by STL_Cat:

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Yeah, Maravich nor Bird were better shooters than the great Redick.....strange how it doesn't translate to the pro game huh?

There were plenty of better shooters than Redick....he was greatly helped with the 3 pt line.

JJ Redick is actually having a nice pro career. Averaging 14.9 ppg for the Cllips right now. He's been a better pro than I expected. Not sure why you're bringing up the pro game anyway, the guy you said should have won NPOY over Redick is one of the biggest NBA draft busts of all time.

You're clearly just hating on JJ Redick here, just admit it. You said a guy who averaged 26.8 ppg and led his team to a 30-3 record and an ACC Championship only won NPOY because of Dick Vitale. Not taking much else you say about Redick seriously ... no offense.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:08 PM by STL_Cat

Just because you slurp Redick doesn't make me a hater; I said Morrison had a better year, and I read here he's the greatest shooter ever and because he played in the ACC.

You don't like my answer or my reasons, ok.

If Redick was that great, then the pro game should allow his game to be even better right? He's average as a pro and I never said Morrison was a great anything. He had just as good a season as Redick for one year....you read it as you see fit.


This post was edited on 1/27 1:42 PM by KMKAT

I'm not "slurping" Redick, I'm calling you ridiculous for saying Redick won the NPOY because of Vitale, the media, or anyone else.

"If Redick was that great, then the pro game should allow his game to be even better right?"

I don't even know what this means.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:52 PM by STL_Cat

No, Redick won because he was on everyone's hit list unlike Morrison.
Its still East Coast bias with the media IMO; you can disagree all you want.

A repeat first-team All-America, Redick received 43 votes from
the 72-member national media panel that selects the weekly Top 25.
Adam Morrison of Gonzaga, who beat Redick in a season-long,
bi-coastal scoring race, got the other 29 votes in the balloting
conducted before the NCAA Tournament.

Should the POY go 3-18 in any game, especially in the Sweet 16? Looks like the voters don't count the tournament in their voting.


06 POY voting

 

[Hoskins91]

Originally posted by KMKAT:
Yeah, Maravich nor Bird were better shooters than the great Redick.....strange how it doesn't translate to the pro game huh?

There were plenty of better shooters than Redick....he was greatly helped with the 3 pt line.

And if you don't think the East coast is biased when it involves media attention, you're kidding yourself. Morrison had as good a year as Redick.

This post was edited on 1/27 1:06 PM by KMKAT

He's a starter on one of the better teams in the league, not that what he does in the pros should be relevant to winning NPOY.

 

[Vandalayindustries]

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:

Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by .S&C.:

What some posters like him do is pompous, over the top, and immature. Specifically looking to be a contrarian every time you post does not make you objective.

Sure it can. Maybe someone can seem like a contrarian when they post because they only respond to things they don't agree with. I certainly don't always respond to posts I agree with because there's nothing else to add to the discussion. My point was made by someone else. If I feel there's another argument to be made, then that's when I would chime in with that differing viewpoint. Doesn't mean I'm only a contrarian, it only means I speak up more when I don't agree with something... not that I disagree with EVERYTHING.

Rafters has always had difficulty differentiating between the two. I like Vandalay because more often than not we agree. I think he's a good poster because he can separate his fandom from his beliefs and give opposing views from a different angle. I like those kinds of people. They aren't blinded. Just me, though.

Besides, it's a message board. It's not real life. I don't even take things with a grain of salt or however that dumb expression goes. I just converse.

I shouldn't be surprised you admire Vandalay. At least you post positively about the team and UK. He never does. What is admirable about constantly defending people who speak negatively about UK, or about defending positive stuff said about rivals, but never about UK? Or bashing the fanbase? Doing so at times is one thing. Entirely different when it's all you do, which is his MO.

I don't speak negatively about UK weirdo. You seem to follow me around a lot and claim to know a lot about me, but you're just not very smart. Why don't you just stick to the topic? No one is bashing UK and no one is bashing the fan base. I simply posted something positive about Redick and you jump to that being anti-UK somehow?

 

[GonzoCat90]

Am I living in some bizzaro world where Adam Morrison wasn't completely beloved? If there's any "media bias" I would think we've seen that the love guys like Jimmer or McDermott receive is in their favor, not against them. The media LOVES a junior or senior at a small college who comes out of nowhere to be a scoring machine. No one goes to bat for Goliath.

I don't see any way to argue that Redick's numbers, on a team that went 30-3 against elite competition, was undeserving.


By the way, watch the games. Percentages and averages don't tell the entire story. It's why we spent a whole year with Kansas fans trying to tell us Jeff Withey was a better defender than Anthony Davis. Redick's percentages, on that rate of attempts, with that degree of difficulty, were absurd.


And I haaaate JJ Redick.

 

[maysvilleky]

Originally posted by CUT-NETS:

Originally posted by michaeluk26:
I hated Redick but that dude was a straight up assassin and would let you know about it.

Best shooter I have ever seen

I think Lofton was a better pure shooter than Reddick. Reddick has more size. Not running him down, he could shoot but I thought Lofton was as clutch as a player could get if you needed a big shot. IMO if Lofton had not had cancer his senior year and played at times sick as a dog, he would have been playing in the NBA rather than overseas.

 

[KMKAT]

Originally posted by GonzoCat90:

Am I living in some bizzaro world where Adam Morrison wasn't completely beloved? If there's any "media bias" I would think we've seen that the love guys like Jimmer or McDermott receive is in their favor, not against them. The media LOVES a junior or senior at a small college who comes out of nowhere to be a scoring machine. No one goes to bat for Goliath.

I don't see any way to argue that Redick's numbers, on a team that went 30-3 against elite competition, was undeserving.


By the way, watch the games. Percentages and averages don't tell the entire story. It's why we spent a whole year with Kansas fans trying to tell us Jeff Withey was a better defender than Anthony Davis. Redick's percentages, on that rate of attempts, with that degree of difficulty, were absurd.


And I haaaate JJ Redick.

I'll just state that Morrison's year was as good as Redick, and therefore, it can't be stated that he's this great talent and shooter when someone is right there with him in the same season. Morrison's stats are as good as Redick.

I didn't say Redick didn't earn the award, but it doesn't mean someone else wasn't as deserving. And being on national TV during prime time does help a candidate when the voting takes place.

 

[buster3.0]

I am not sure if I can list them all by guess. I will give it a try. And I am not cheating by going to google first.

1986 - Johny Dawkins - The Dukie who started it all

1989 - Danny Ferry

1992 - Christian Latener

1999- Elton Brand

2001 - Shane Battier

2002- Jay Williams- Not sure if this is the right year or if his first name is Jay or Jason

2007 - JJ Reddick

Is this correct?