Coach Cal wants half of the NBA All-Star game to be Wildcats
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How about you post something, anything, that does not sh!t on Cal? Just once?
Oh, so you're not interested in another UK NC? All righty then.
Don't play dumb with me Schwumpy, most of us know your schtick by now, it's getting old.
I'm pretty sure a title will take care of itself if in 7 years we have 12 or so NBA-Allstars from UK.
Don't play dumb with me Schwumpy, most of us know your schtick by now, it's getting old.
I'm saying the guy who UK's paying $8M/year to coach the school's chosen sport is saying nothing, nada, nary a word about #9. It should be priority #1 but as long as there's a draft it apparently isn't. Can't you see how ridiculous that is?
Nice attitude. Yet some fans get so turned up when players use Kentucky as a stepping stone for the NBA. If we are using them for a title is it wrong for them to use us to showcase their talent for the NBA?
Any fan that only cares about these kids when they are here should change fanbases. Duke would be a perfect spot for you, their fans and players have a tough time with the NBA.
If Cal preached # 9 from the roof tops ,til he was blue in the face. Would that make you happy?
Or wait til he is in the final and say I think we may win this one, And win then we are all jumping up and down shouting to the tops of lungs.
But if we just speak to the team every practice , every game , one foot in front of the other.
Just step out today play the best game you can play, be the best player you can be..
And hope for the best.
I don't thing we can ask any more from Cal or the players..
Or wait til he is in the final and say I think we may win this one, And win then we are all jumping up and down shouting to the tops of lungs.
But if we just speak to the team every practice , every game , one foot in front of the other.
Just step out today play the best game you can play, be the best player you can be..
And hope for the best.
I don't thing we can ask any more from Cal or the players..
so a requirement of being a UK fan is also following NBA teams? Euro and Asian teams? NBDL?
I think most people realize this but Cal saying he wants however many UK players on the all star team is how he gets the players here that will win us the title.
its like Trump talking about how first rate his Hotels and Casinos are and his investors are mad he isn't talking about how much money they are going to make
No it's not a requirement, but don't you think it's a bit silly to expect these kids to completely submit themselves to the wishes of UK fans only to have those said fans stop supporting them after they have left the school?
At this point Cal is toying with a specific section of the fan base. Do I think he means these things? Absolutely, but I also think he is saying them because he knows it will rub some folks the wrong way. I have to say, I think it's working haha.
look, I'm a huge fan of the program but l'm not kidding myself - these kids aren't coming here because they want to "submit to the wishes of the fans". They come here because its an established fast track to the NBA. Its a great relationship while they are here, but they don't stick around for the fans or any sense of loyalty to the program.
We get that - but the other side of that is, real lasting connections between the fans and players don't get much chance to form.
The thing is these UK players do show loyalty to the program after they leave. They support the current team throughout the year (mostly via social media). They also spend time in Lexington during the summers putting on camps and sometimes training with the staff.
I get what you're saying and I do think these guys come here initially because they see UK as a way to realize their dreams as soon as possible. Once they get here though I see a majority of these guys forming that lasting relationship with the school and the fans. The oddity with UK right now is that relationship is often being formed after the player has left school.
Willie stayed an extra year to chase a national championship and because he loved college. Nerlens has been back every summer since he left. That's some loyalty right there. There are countless other examples I could use. The fact is elite athletes aren't going to display much loyalty to institutions. They will be loyal to the people in the institutions that have helped them and that's to be expected. The idea that a kid will stay in school four years to wear the name on the front of his jersey is long gone and that's not just at UK, that's everywhere.
Why just half?
let's get them all to be Wildcats and hold the all star game at Rupp
let's get them all to be Wildcats and hold the all star game at Rupp
Some of our fans are,, well,, just dumbasses..
Can you show me links of Joe B touting our only goal in life is #5? Pitino #6, Tubby #7?
You are being an ass and you know it. You know that he pushes the NBA for 2 reasons; he truly cares about his players and it helps with recruiting.
Again, stop acting stupid, you can continue to troll but you are not stupid.
If you are not a fan of the players why do you still bitch about them and tout Tyler so much? Are they just pawns or modern day slave labor? Use them and forget about them?
I would say most UK greats from coaches to players and most fans would say once a Wildcat always a Wildcat. I assume you disagree with this?
No one is asking anyone to be an NBA fan. It's a different product, and I'm not about to get into the argument of which one is better. If you don't like it, you don't like it.
Saying you aren't a fan of any individual player (as one poster said) is ridiculous, though. If you don't care about the players or support them, and don't sometimes check them out on a prime time NBA game, why the hell should they care about winning us a title?
Thankfully the good UK fans outweigh the bad. If all fans were like Ulisismyman, our program would probably die out after a decade. No player would want to come here. I do my part, no matter how small, to support all the players and root them on LONG after they left. At the very least, it's good business and makes our program stronger. But I do it because I have that Kentucky connection with them and truly want to see all of them succeed..
Saying you aren't a fan of any individual player (as one poster said) is ridiculous, though. If you don't care about the players or support them, and don't sometimes check them out on a prime time NBA game, why the hell should they care about winning us a title?
Thankfully the good UK fans outweigh the bad. If all fans were like Ulisismyman, our program would probably die out after a decade. No player would want to come here. I do my part, no matter how small, to support all the players and root them on LONG after they left. At the very least, it's good business and makes our program stronger. But I do it because I have that Kentucky connection with them and truly want to see all of them succeed..
Not to be obstinate, but I don't see why worshiping these kids like rocks stars while they are here isn't enough. Its easy to sit there and talk about keeping up with Anthony Davis. DeAndre Liggins was one of my favorites here but I couldn't tell you a thing about him once he left the program.
I'd like to think that DeAndre played his ass off here because 20K fans showed up at midnight madness and packed Rupp for every home game, and did their best to fill opposing teams spots for road games - and *thats* why Deandre wanted to win a title while at UK.
If someone says I don't really keep up with them after they leave but I love them while they are here - to me - that's more than enough fandom.
So you think many of us grown men worship these kids like rock stars?
You think having an interest in how they play after college because of their ties to our university is too much fandom?
You know I've enjoyed your opinions a long time, but that avatar may be affecting your sensibilities...
The fact that you're using "worshiping" as the choice verb here shows you're not quite getting it. I don't have their poster on my ceiling so I can fall to sleep at night looking at it. I have zero memorabilia from any of them (aside from an MKG tee-shirt jersey). I don't stalk them on Twitter. But I always argue in their favor, I always hope they can progress their careers, I will occasionally like their posts or even comment. I try to watch games that have at least 2 or more UK players in them.. those are two VERY different scenarios.
Ulis' tone was basically "When they leave, they don't exist to me". Not the same as yourself, who just might not have the time to keep up with them (or maybe uses his time differently). Nothing wrong with that.
You also can't always go by me. I don't and have never lived in Kentucky. I'm not surrounded by this stuff 24/7. My chances to see games and players is few and far between. I might be different if I lived within driving distance to Rupp..
You also can't always go by me. I don't and have never lived in Kentucky. I'm not surrounded by this stuff 24/7. My chances to see games and players is few and far between. I might be different if I lived within driving distance to Rupp..
but why does that matter ? why does following them post UK have any relation to your fandom or to their desire to win while at UK? That's seems to be what is being said here.
Schwump is still Schwumping so hard right now.
Aside from that, let's answer some other things in this thread.
Why is it that a player has to be doing something that you want them to do, for you to support them? You can't be happy with them being successful and achieving their dreams? Is it all about you? That's selfish. They go out in a Kentucky uniform and leave it on the court, risking injury and potentially their dreams of playing in the NBA, to win as much as possible, but after that you don't really care what goes on with their lives? Not sure how any Kentucky fan would be proud to say that.
People want to be appreciated, not just for a short time, they want to be appreciated their entire lives. It's human nature. Be happy for their achievements, a little praise for their success wouldn't kill you.
Aside from that, let's answer some other things in this thread.
Why is it that a player has to be doing something that you want them to do, for you to support them? You can't be happy with them being successful and achieving their dreams? Is it all about you? That's selfish. They go out in a Kentucky uniform and leave it on the court, risking injury and potentially their dreams of playing in the NBA, to win as much as possible, but after that you don't really care what goes on with their lives? Not sure how any Kentucky fan would be proud to say that.
People want to be appreciated, not just for a short time, they want to be appreciated their entire lives. It's human nature. Be happy for their achievements, a little praise for their success wouldn't kill you.
Pathetic. You honestly think Cal doesn't care about winning?? He obviously does, or else he'd be a life coach or something like that instead of a basketball coach. However, he is emphasizing how much he cares about the human beings he's coaching more than the petty fans.
Also, he won you one, and we were in the running every season he's been here (save 2013), and are looking quite sharp next year. That's more than BCG, Tubby, and neck-and-neck with when Pitino was here. (Btw, Tubby had some good teams/seasons, so I'm not hating on him).
Some people...
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Because we are asking them to come to a state they don't live in, to play basketball and share the ball with tons of other talent, and risk injury, for a goal (winning the title), that I really don't think most recruits even care about. That question works both ways. Why should they even care about winning? Why not play the big games to showcase talent, then mail it in the rest of the year. If we own nothing to them, then they own nothing to us.
whoa, whoa, whoa - I'm only speaking for myself but I live in the vacuum of Kentucky Basketball. I'm more than happy for any player or any person for that matter achieving their dreams. And I am glad that my program played a part in it. I am a UK fan. I am under no obligation to keep up with the wizards or pelicans or the kings. While they are at UK we have a mutual interest in their success. We both want the same thing. It has nothing to do with them doing something for me...the fan.
As a UK fan, my job is to cheer for the players of my program.
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