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After bragging on the women’s talent in the E, Zelena stunk it up last night. Botched the 619 and then busted Chelsea’s nose. She was terrible.
So you just took the time to research it, post pictures, and say “losing in the attendance battle” without a quote response, but you don’t know why.
Awesome. Very enlightening.
I love the nostalgia of Jesse but enough of his bitching about walking out the door. I'll grant that it was funny but read up on the cage match rules, "Body". I think you could even walk out of the blue cage door back in the 80's and didn't have to go over the top, correct? Have pinfalls always been an option in the cage or did it used to be just escape the cage?
I'm glad Chelsea and Zelina got put onto the card. Truth and Cena didn't need to go more than what it was. I like Zelina but she is still greener than goose shit and definitely had some botches. Chelsea needs a title because she is pure gold. The more Chelsea on tv, the better.
I like adding Bronson to the stable. Two Bronsons and a Seth. A lot said Theory but I think he's ready to go back on his own and appears to be ready for a babyface run.
I like Priest but I'm ready for Drew to get the rocket put back on his back. He's not quite been relegated to mid card but he deserves better than the sub main event level that he's been booked. He and Punk did too good for him to just be where he is. However, if they do want to use him in that area, I'd love to see him and Kross work a program. Talk about some heavy hitting matches. Plus, it would elevate a white hot Karrion up the card and give Drew some new blood to work with.
I like the slow build but I'm ready for Jacob to go full on babyface and turn on Solo/Cobb.
I'm glad Chelsea and Zelina got put onto the card. Truth and Cena didn't need to go more than what it was. I like Zelina but she is still greener than goose shit and definitely had some botches. Chelsea needs a title because she is pure gold. The more Chelsea on tv, the better.
I like adding Bronson to the stable. Two Bronsons and a Seth. A lot said Theory but I think he's ready to go back on his own and appears to be ready for a babyface run.
I like Priest but I'm ready for Drew to get the rocket put back on his back. He's not quite been relegated to mid card but he deserves better than the sub main event level that he's been booked. He and Punk did too good for him to just be where he is. However, if they do want to use him in that area, I'd love to see him and Kross work a program. Talk about some heavy hitting matches. Plus, it would elevate a white hot Karrion up the card and give Drew some new blood to work with.
I like the slow build but I'm ready for Jacob to go full on babyface and turn on Solo/Cobb.
Cage matches originally didn’t involve escaping. The entire point was that there was no escape
Ya it’s like she completely botched it then swung again and that’s when she hit her nose.
- Vega got the title to show there's depth in the mid-card and because her husband was coming in the same night. Problem is, the mid-card isn't being built after they've added multiple titles. WWE wants to have the same titles for women as they do with men but it appears they just want the pat on the back and don't want to put in the work afterward. At the same time, AEW fans are begging TK for women's tag titles...when that's never worked in any company and it's currently not working in WWE. They list 4-6 made-up women's tag teams and think that's brilliant. Tony can't even book men's tag and trio matches right.
- I keep saying this but not feeling this Cena run. They wasted a date on a 5 min. match with R-Truth. I get the history there but that's like having limited dates with Austin during the AE and him wrestling Goldust. Plenty are still cheering Cena and buying his merch, he's given a similar "You People" promo over and over, he finishes every match with a title to the head or a kick in the balls, and there's been little explanation as to why he sided with Rock and Scott is his new buddy. I know how they could make this more memorable but it'd require Cena saying fans couldn't handle Vince choosing him to be next after Rock and Austin just like Vince chose Reigns to be next after Cena. Fans think they know better but in reality they have to be lead like farm animals. That's the crux of this. Cena was chosen and he "rose above the hate."
- Dragon got suckered into defending AEW from...NXT. LOL. The sickos need to get their talking points in order. We've got Meltzer pretending (with HBO Max) Dynamite is on Smackdown's heels and definitely getting over a million per week and Dragon waving the flag against WWE's developmental show which rarely leaves a warehouse in FL.
- I keep saying this but not feeling this Cena run. They wasted a date on a 5 min. match with R-Truth. I get the history there but that's like having limited dates with Austin during the AE and him wrestling Goldust. Plenty are still cheering Cena and buying his merch, he's given a similar "You People" promo over and over, he finishes every match with a title to the head or a kick in the balls, and there's been little explanation as to why he sided with Rock and Scott is his new buddy. I know how they could make this more memorable but it'd require Cena saying fans couldn't handle Vince choosing him to be next after Rock and Austin just like Vince chose Reigns to be next after Cena. Fans think they know better but in reality they have to be lead like farm animals. That's the crux of this. Cena was chosen and he "rose above the hate."
- Dragon got suckered into defending AEW from...NXT. LOL. The sickos need to get their talking points in order. We've got Meltzer pretending (with HBO Max) Dynamite is on Smackdown's heels and definitely getting over a million per week and Dragon waving the flag against WWE's developmental show which rarely leaves a warehouse in FL.
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Drew deserves light yeas better than WWE has given him. I fear that his time as a potential world champ is over in WWE. If that is the case, I want him to go win a tag title with either Sheamus or Kross. He and Kross as a tag-team could work, story wise, with both believing they are being held back. He just needs something different, but we will probably get another match with Priest at SS.
The saving grace to Drew right now is that the bookers and people with stroke today have proven to us that there is in fact a rhyme and reason to any and all long term storytelling. There have been many things that I've had the same feeling on for them to pull something off to where I say "Ahh ha, I see what they were doing 6 months ago". Could it be coincidence and good timing? Sure but it's happened a little more to where I think they know what's up.
That’s like saying Mark Stoops has been stinking it up the last few years because he had a bum ankle.
I generally was entertained with SNME and am looking forward to Double or Nothing tonight.
SNME thoughts:
I am fine with Bronson Reed as the third man, and want to hear the explanation of adding him to the faction considering he and Rollins had a blood feud last year.
Zelina's botch was unfortunate. The Cena/Truth segment and match was entertaining and fine with me. Cage match was fine but nothing amazing. I'm tired of Drew/Priest though. I think Drew is about to take some extended time off. He and Priest has apparently both been "working hurt." Main event was short (preferable for Jey matches, IMO) and the end accomplished what it needed to for the story.
I am Team Ospreay tonight, but have a feeling we're getting Hangman. Expecting a great match regardless.
Predictions:
Okada, Hurt Syndicate and Toni Storm all retain.
FTR over Dick Shakin' Danny and Nigel McGuinness
Ricochet over Briscoe in the stretcher match
Mercedes over Hayter
Hangman over Ospreay
Babyfaces in Anarchy
SNME thoughts:
I am fine with Bronson Reed as the third man, and want to hear the explanation of adding him to the faction considering he and Rollins had a blood feud last year.
Zelina's botch was unfortunate. The Cena/Truth segment and match was entertaining and fine with me. Cage match was fine but nothing amazing. I'm tired of Drew/Priest though. I think Drew is about to take some extended time off. He and Priest has apparently both been "working hurt." Main event was short (preferable for Jey matches, IMO) and the end accomplished what it needed to for the story.
I am Team Ospreay tonight, but have a feeling we're getting Hangman. Expecting a great match regardless.
Predictions:
Okada, Hurt Syndicate and Toni Storm all retain.
FTR over Dick Shakin' Danny and Nigel McGuinness
Ricochet over Briscoe in the stretcher match
Mercedes over Hayter
Hangman over Ospreay
Babyfaces in Anarchy
Speaking of Chelsea Green, it's been said how great she is for the lockeroom and how everyone loves her. I was playing golf with my buddy Shaun (LA Knight) not too long ago and he said that Chelsea and Jacob Fatu are two of the most gifted people in the company. Dominik got a lot of praise too. I would imagine that her being a big fan along with being married to a self admitted mark wrestling junky like Cardona has allowed her to get an education that many don't get these days. The interviews where Jacob says that wrestling got him back on track are more than true. It's good to see that there are superstars who truly get it and take it serious and that people are still willing to teach the new crop of talent. I see Fatu and Dom being major stars for the company going forward.
Ya Fatu said watching the USO’s when he was in prison is what motivated him to be a pro wrestler.
Impressive name drop with LA knight - I hope he wins mitb and gets a title reign.
My confliction with don is if hangman loses then he can pivot to other feuds quickly (swerve/mjf/etc) but if osperay loses than what - I thought some people were saying he’s going to beat Mox at all in and be the face of the company - if not then what? Wrestle Kyle fletcher for the 90th time with nothing on the line?
Green is just a level above. You can't convince me she didn't come up with her look, her mannerisms, and the Secret Hervice thing. Meanwhile, Lyra is known as "bird girl" and her theme is sorta decent. It's what I say about the yearly firings. You gotta be creative with your own presentation and really make it a thing. I don't know who was behind Roman's transformation but look at him immediately following The Shield. Still had the Shield vest, Shield music, same goatee, only now he was 'The Big Dawg.' Yeah, that sucked. He looked like a nervous teen at times. Roman began to look like a confident man after he left all the Shield stuff in the past. That's all presentation.
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Chelsea is the anti Sasha Banks. She will make the best out of whatever is given to her.
Vaquer and Grace should be a good match. That’s about all that interests me on the NXT show.
We might be at or close to the peak of women’s pro wrestling b/c people are saying on the nxt show the sol ruca/kelani Jordan match was really good too and both brands still have the title matches still to go.
And in AEW you are looking at a Toni and Mone feud on the way, which should be great.
I hate Cody cutters, Ospreay cutters, Jay Lethal’s move and moves like this that require the other person to jump into it and help.
Hendry dropped the TNA World Championship to Trick Williams.
Wow! They are going full in with this partnership. Obviously it’s just a matter of time before WWE/TKO buy TNA (if they haven’t already and just not announced) but putting the title on a major wwe star going forward is a big deal.
This PPV has had a really fun vibe, seems to me. Those Anarchy matches always deliver and this one might have been the best of them all.
Being able to escape to win is such a lame way to win a cage match. Cage matches should be a feud ender for a heated feud, why do you want to just walk away instead of beating the shit out of someone?
Should have left for AEW but they conned him into re-signing just like they did with Chad Cable and Natalya.
It’s not long term story telling to grind gears and kick the can down the road for weeks to months at a time. That’s just unnecessarily dragging shit out.
It looks great but she should get a different one for her long term health.
All-timer PPV. So hyped for the Hangman win. He deserves another title reign after his last one ended at the hands of that bitch Punk.
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