CI Wrestling Thread #56

[Wesley91581]

The Righteous, Vincent Marseglia and Bill "Dutch" Carr have departed AEW and Ring of Honor, PWInsider.com can confirm.
We are told the departure took place about a week ago.
The duo had been with AEW and the current version of ROH as of March 2023.
They had been ROH Six Man Tag Team Championship title holders on several occasions with different partners during the Sinclair Broadcast Group era of ROH.
Neither have commented thus far on their exit from the company.

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[Nightwish84]

Yeah, I dunno what's happening but suddenly 2/3 of that group are sweaty oompa loompas.

Physically, this is the best Rusev has ever looked. Just straight cut and jacked.

We shouldn't be getting Gunther and McAfee of course buuuttt at least there was a slow buildup of the commentators siding with Jey for months as Gunther looked on and it's easy to see why WWE loves McAfee. He's a solid, passionate promo and since he knows how to butter a town up via local sports, he can get a big reaction out of them. Good, focused promo from Gunther too.

 

[John_Locke_]

 

[AmericanDragon]

This will be good

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I’m happy he is getting paid but I don’t get the point in WWE bringing in a soon-to-be 43-year-old Jeff Cobb who barely anyone who watches WWE will know. Unless he signed like a very short deal then this contract is probably his last full-time contract, what’s the point in investing in him now when there are younger talents that could use the tv time.

 

[AmericanDragon]

The next 2-3 years will be interesting. Right or wrong, Nick Khan may see AEW as a feeder system of sorts and why he said there's talent there that will come over once their contracts are up. They don't have to tamper with MJF to know he likely won't keep re-signing until he's 40. It's why I don't buy the idea that WWE wants AEW to "die." Would you renew Shotzi or bring Britt Baker to NXT? Keep Cora Jade or hire Mariah May? Trot out Strowman or go with Rusev or Black? And AEW can keep developing home growns, taking from the indies, and giving new life to former WWE talent like Ricochet.

WWE would absolutely snatch up Britt Baker if she became available. Why? Because she’d be an ex-AEW name with name recognition.

The easiest way to get a WWE offer is to work in AEW, they’ll throw out an offer to anyone with a pulse that worked in AEW even if they aren’t good (see Pillman Jr/Lexis King).

Like I said before, Triple H making all the same mistakes Tony Khan did when he started signing every ex-WWE name with a pulse.

 

[AmericanDragon]

Yeah, I dunno what's happening but suddenly 2/3 of that group are sweaty oompa loompas.

Physically, this is the best Rusev has ever looked. Just straight cut and jacked.

We shouldn't be getting Gunther and McAfee of course buuuttt at least there was a slow buildup of the commentators siding with Jey for months as Gunther looked on and it's easy to see why WWE loves McAfee. He's a solid, passionate promo and since he knows how to butter a town up via local sports, he can get a big reaction out of them. Good, focused promo from Gunther too.

Putting Gunther in a program with ****ing Pat McAfee is quite the way to waste a guy as talented in the ring as Gunther is. Just give him the PPV cycle off if they can’t come up with anything better than that.m

At least when Bryan Danielson wrestled Nigel McGuinness he was going up against a guy who was at one point one of the best in the world before both WWE and TNA ****ed him over.

 

[AmericanDragon]

AEW in Detroit this week so Rhino is being brought in for the week. He is from Detroit and is extremely over there, or so I’ve been told.

 

[krazykats]

Putting Gunther in a program with ****ing Pat McAfee is quite the way to waste a guy as talented in the ring as Gunther is. Just give him the PPV cycle off if they can’t come up with anything better than that.m

At least when Bryan Danielson wrestled Nigel McGuinness he was going up against a guy who was at one point one of the best in the world before both WWE and TNA ****ed him over.

He just dropped the belt to Jey and they want to give Jey some time with the strap.

Gunther climbed the IC ranks and the WWE Title.

This is male soap opera placeholder booking to fill a quick void before he goes after Jey for what is rightfully his.

Patience grasshopper.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Ex-WWE Star Duke 'The Dumpster' Droese Indicted For Attempted Sexual Exploitation Of A Minor - Wrestling Inc.

Michael Droese, known for his time in WWE as Duke "The Dumpster" Droese, has been indicted for attempted sexual exploitation of a minor.

www.wrestlinginc.com

Sounds like someone needs to be cast into that giant trash blob in the ocean

 

[Booker Noe]

Niño Hamburguesa

AAA has a guy named Hamburger Boy?

 

[WildcatFan1982]

AAA has a guy named Hamburger Boy?

That’s pretty low on the list of weird lucha names

 

[WildcatFan1982]

 

[Wesley91581]

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Another day another AEW guy taking shots at wwe guys!

 

[WildcatFan1982]

In this case I feel it’s deserved and really has nothing to do with WWE

 

[Wesley91581]

In this case I feel it’s deserved and really has nothing to do with WWE

Sorry - I guess I’m not following what’s going on here?

Hogan is contracted to wwe and Shelton is contracted to AEW.

 

[TCurtis75]

In this case I feel it’s deserved and really has nothing to do with WWE

Whats the story here? Knowing Hogan, I am sure it is deserved but I haven't heard about this beef. I am really beginning to hate that I looked at Hogan as a "super hero" as a child.

 

[Cole World]

Whats the story here? Knowing Hogan, I am sure it is deserved but I haven't heard about this beef. I am really beginning to hate that I looked at Hogan as a "super hero" as a child.

 

[Cole World]

Sorry - I guess I’m not following what’s going on here?

Hogan is contracted to wwe and Shelton is contracted to AEW.

Has nothing to do with who they're contracted to, the tribalism is weird and unnecessary

 

[TCurtis75]

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I was expecting so much more. At this point, everyone knows Hogan is FOS so Benjamin is probably better off to not give Hogan the publicity.

 

[Wesley91581]

I was expecting so much more. At this point, everyone knows Hogan is FOS so Benjamin is probably better off to not give Hogan the publicity.

Exactly

 

[MegaBlue05]

Another day another AEW guy taking shots at wwe guys!

I’m team AEW guy on this one. Lol

 

[MegaBlue05]

Whats the story here? Knowing Hogan, I am sure it is deserved but I haven't heard about this beef. I am really beginning to hate that I looked at Hogan as a "super hero" as a child.

Here’s the path I took on Hogan:

1986-94 - Hogan rules!
95-early 96 - this schtick is getting old I’m not 6 anymore

NWO forms:

1996-98 - This heel character is awesome!! Long live Hollywood!

Learns what a backstage POS Hogan was in 1999:

1999-2013: F Hogan from a wrestling fan perspective

Hogan does the racism:

2014-present: Double F Hogan

 

[Wesley91581]

I’m team AEW guy on this one. Lol

Haha I mean the industry is so overexposed at this point but ya hogan and Vince are awful people who knew!

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Sorry - I guess I’m not following what’s going on here?

Hogan is contracted to wwe and Shelton is contracted to AEW.

just meant that Sheltons beef with Hogan isn't related to what companies they work for. Unlike a lot of other instances that are posted on here

 

[John_Locke_]

 

[TCurtis75]

Here’s the path I took on Hogan:

1986-94 - Hogan rules!
95-early 96 - this schtick is getting old I’m not 6 anymore

NWO forms:

1996-98 - This heel character is awesome!! Long live Hollywood!

Learns what a backstage POS Hogan was in 1999:

1999-2013: F Hogan from a wrestling fan perspective

Hogan does the racism:

2014-present: Double F Hogan

I think that is similar to mine. I was 11 in 86 and still remember seeing WWF at Rupp with my stepfather around that time. We stayed at the Hyatt and were able to meet him and Macho Man after the show (my stepfather was a professional photographer who was friends with the photographer that took the pics at MMRS and Elizabeth's wedding so that was our in). I remember just being absolutely star struck and in awe. As I aged, he stopped being that super hero. Now, I hate that I thought of him that way as a child and I just want him to go away. Those real American Beer commercials are so bad also.

 

[Wesley91581]

I think that is similar to mine. I was 11 in 86 and still remember seeing WWF at Rupp with my stepfather around that time. We stayed at the Hyatt and were able to meet him and Macho Man after the show (my stepfather was a professional photographer who was friends with the photographer that took the pics at MMRS and Elizabeth's wedding so that was our in). I remember just being absolutely star struck and in awe. As I aged, he stopped being that super hero. Now, I hate that I thought of him that way as a child and I just want him to go away. Those real American Beer commercials are so bad also.

Then again we were blind to a lot of it bc of kayfabe and the wrestling marketing machine - I think once a lot of stuff got out there and that reality show he did it kinda showed the true version.

 

[K-mac18]

According to the PwInisder folks when Hogan was brought back to WWE following his suspension of making racist comments that were recorded by Bubba the Love Sponge. He didn't really apologize. Instead he said something about being careful what you say because you could be getting recorded.

 

[Blueisbest]

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That's a pretty good card......for a Raw or Smackdown. Maybe even SNME. For Backlash? Not so much.

 

[AmericanDragon]

Hogan is a POS, **** him, go to hell (Hogan that is).

 

[Wesley91581]

Perfect matches according to drew mcintyre

1. ⁠The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels, WrestleMania 25
2. ⁠Bret Hart vs Steve Austin, WrestleMania 13
3. ⁠Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley, WrestleMania 39
4. ⁠Men's Royal Rumble, Royal Rumble 2020
5. ⁠Bayley vs Sasha Banks, NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn
6. ⁠The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan, WrestleMania X-8
7. ⁠Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega, Wrestle Kingdom 11 in Tokyo Dome
8. ⁠Rob Van Dam vs John Cena, ECW One Night Stand 2006
9. ⁠Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome, ECW One Night Stand 2005

 

[stereonut]

How about Hogan vs. Andre?

 

[Wesley91581]

How about Hogan vs. Andre?

Fair point - savage/steamboat would be in the mix too but his oldest match on there is 1997 so guessing that’s where he started his benchmark from.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

He posted that on dropkickd. I’d never heard of it until today but here we go

dropkickd - wrestling ratings.

dropkickd

dropkickd.com

 

[Wesley91581]

He posted that on dropkickd. I’d never heard of it until today but here we go

dropkickd - wrestling ratings.

dropkickd

dropkickd.com

Nice find I’d never heard of that site - just saw he had posted the topic

 

[John_Locke_]

Timothy Thatcher & Elijah/Elias in the battle royal on NXT.

 

[sefus12]

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Whatever WWE pays Drew, he deserves more.

 

[Col. Angus]

Hulk Hogan could be caught on video throwing a crippled wheelchair ridden granny over a bridge and I’d still mark out every time the red and yeller comes marching out to Real American

 

[Wesley91581]

Wwe should have their scouts at this!