CI Wrestling Thread #56
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I could get The Undertaker going after souls but The Rock? What is Triple H thinking?
I think Tony should book a best of 7 series between Moxley and Copeland. I want ex-WWE talent chaos.
Title needs to come off Moxley but he's still going to be heavily involved with AEW until he retires. Saw a clip of Mox taking a clothesline, falling out of the ring, the camera catches him blading, and he gets back in bleeding. Folks in the comments said it's an obsession or fetish and he's replaced alcohol with blading. TK idolizes ex-WWE talent so they're rarely going to be told no. I think he believes Danielson is his hippie uncle or something.
I probably sound like a 'Rampager' or 'Collider' saying this but NXT is the best show of the week.
Title needs to come off Moxley but he's still going to be heavily involved with AEW until he retires. Saw a clip of Mox taking a clothesline, falling out of the ring, the camera catches him blading, and he gets back in bleeding. Folks in the comments said it's an obsession or fetish and he's replaced alcohol with blading. TK idolizes ex-WWE talent so they're rarely going to be told no. I think he believes Danielson is his hippie uncle or something.
I probably sound like a 'Rampager' or 'Collider' saying this but NXT is the best show of the week.
A world title match - men or women - should be last because it should be the best booked thing since it’s the one match that’s always most likely to be the main event in every company.
The thing is that AEW actually had a world title match that was perfectly setup to be the main event - Mariah vs. Toni.
And this isn’t some hindsight is 20/20 BS. It was widely agreed upon all over the internet that it should be the main event. It was a year+ long story that was arguably the most well written story in AEW history.
They deserved it, then they killed it, and many are saying it was the match of the night on the same night we got four matches that on paper are ones that would be a believable PPV main event in Hangman-MJF, Swerve-Ricochet, Omega-Takeshita, and Ospreay-Fletcher.
Might just end up being the first ever American five-star women’s match.
That Cope-Mox match would have been bad no matter where it was on the card. Make it a cool down match earlier in the card or after the tag title match and it would have been a lot more tolerable. But as the main event after a run of three consecutive great matches? That ain’t it.
My “old” ass doesn’t necessarily like it, but it’s smart. Get that big lead-in to increase exposure. And for all the grifters with the keyboard diarrhea takes about AEW, it also shows how much invested WBD is in AEW. They could pick conceivably anything they have the rights for there to get that prime spot, and they are picking AEW both nights.
A street fight is what the first match should have been to begin with. Should be considerably more entertaining than that shit show the first match was.
I’m thinking Jay White turns on Cope. Or at least I am hoping. Jay is fine as a face, he excels as a heel.
Maybe. Weird fit. Only thing that makes sense is if they stick him in NXT to beef up that weak men’s roster and just have him make everyone look good in the ring.
Because he’s definitely not a promo guy unless he has a Ricochet-in-AEW type glow up.
So unless that’s the case there’s no future for him on the main roster. Man turns 43 in June. Vast majority of the WWE fan base isn’t going to know a damn thing about him.
They didn’t even get the “women’s 5,” which is a 4.75. He gave it a 4.5. It basically takes an act of God for Dave to give a women’s match outside of 90s Japanese wrestling a 5.
I’m not thrilled for the rematch, but at least I am looking forward to this match since it’s a street fight. AEW rarely misses with plunder matches.
My expectation for the PPV match was it could be a decent match and it was the match I was least interested in on the main card.
For me a decent match is an absolute max of 7/10. I think I ended up giving it a 4. Put it middle of the card and I’d probably would have given it a 5.
To piggy back off my previous reply to this…
The only women’s matches Dave has rated 5 or greater, listed in reverse chronological order, since the collapse of the Japanese women’s wrestling scene after 1995
- 3/3/25; Saya Kamitani vs. Tam Nakano; Stardom
- 2/2/25; AZM, Miyu Amasaki, and Starlight Kid vs. Natsupoi, Saori Anou, and Tam Nakano; Stardom
- 6/12/21; Syuri vs. Utami Hayashishita; Stardom
It took well over a decade for the Joshi wrestling scene to recover from the aftermath, and the only other place doing much of anything with women’s wrestling was the USA with the diva bullshit
Dralistico/Hologram got 4.5 stars so that’s as good as Sasha/bayley - this is why even wrestlers make fun of his ratings.
If a match takes place in Japan and features Japanese talent, it’s a minimum of 4.25 for ole Dave. He’s always has this odd Japan fetish and tends to overrate anything that happens on Japanese soil.
They need to bring back raw underground for this…
[WON] A specific confrontation saw Jade Cargill pointing to a bruise on her arm and her telling Shayna Baszler that she needed to learn how to work. Baszler responded: "If I was shooting, you and I would both know."
😂 at getting pissed off because you got a bruise in a wrestling match. She has been pampered way too much in her wrestling career.
If this happened in the 80s Shayna woulda broken her jaw at minimum and the locker room would have had her back.
First show ever with three five star matches
But damn Dave really didn’t like the tag match 😂
But damn Dave really didn’t like the tag match 😂
Jade needs someone to give her a good ego check.
Remember that NBA era in the 90s and 2000s where any seven footer with a pulse would get an NBA contract because the notion was that they are seven feet tall so that automatically means they have potential? And they would just keep on getting contract after contract until they physically couldn’t perform anymore regardless of what their performance was?
That’s Jade as far as an in-ring wrestler goes.
There are jobbers in ROH who are better in-ring workers than her. They just don’t look like hulking monsters like Jade and don’t have any charisma, so they rightly don’t get pushed.
Remember that NBA era in the 90s and 2000s where any seven footer with a pulse would get an NBA contract because the notion was that they are seven feet tall so that automatically means they have potential? And they would just keep on getting contract after contract until they physically couldn’t perform anymore regardless of what their performance was?
That’s Jade as far as an in-ring wrestler goes.
There are jobbers in ROH who are better in-ring workers than her. They just don’t look like hulking monsters like Jade and don’t have any charisma, so they rightly don’t get pushed.
Bunch of random things...WWE Backlash will be in St. Louis on May 10th. Meltzer is reporting early PPV buy numbers for Revolution are around 135,000- 140,000 which isn't bad.
Thought Dynamite was somewhere in the middle, a lot more talking that usual. Possibly due to some talents needing time to recover after Sunday's show. Did 628,000 viewers which is up from last week.
Also please no more AEW women trying to use chair shots, that was bad.
Being reported Jeff Cobb has signed a deal with WWE.
This probably hasn't helped with the WWE Id thing.
Thought Dynamite was somewhere in the middle, a lot more talking that usual. Possibly due to some talents needing time to recover after Sunday's show. Did 628,000 viewers which is up from last week.
Also please no more AEW women trying to use chair shots, that was bad.
Being reported Jeff Cobb has signed a deal with WWE.
This probably hasn't helped with the WWE Id thing.
When the Monstars stole the players abilities, Shawn Bradley didn’t get any worse
It’s best for business!How big of a mark do you have to be to pay for this?
I know you don't want to comment on Dave Meltzer, but can you comment on him reporting that WWE pays for the WWE ID talents to fly to indy shows and that Gabe Sapolsky writes the script for those matches?
Note: We are told that Meltzer did report this in his weekly Newsletter but it was later removed.
Dave Meltzer would be factually incorrect on both parts. I'll refrain from further comment, since I said I wasn't going to comment on him again, and I won't.
Note: We are told that Meltzer did report this in his weekly Newsletter but it was later removed.
Dave Meltzer would be factually incorrect on both parts. I'll refrain from further comment, since I said I wasn't going to comment on him again, and I won't.
Typically 6-8 months for me. I hate title reigns that go on and on. There are too many great wrestlers out there that deserve a run every now and again.
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