CI Wrestling Thread #56

[MegaBlue05]

I watched Revolution.

It was mostly good. I really liked the whole card minus the Mone match and main event. I thought Osprey/Fletcher stole the show.

That main event was the drizzling shits. Cope looks and moves like his age. Moxley continues to suck and be boring. The crowd would’ve popped huge for a Cope/Christian win. Instead, it was like a fart in church when Mox won.

 

[Wesley91581]

I watched Revolution.

It was mostly good. I really liked the whole card minus the Mone match and main event. I thought Osprey/Fletcher stole the show.

That main event was the drizzling shits. Cope looks and moves like his age. Moxley continues to suck and be boring. The crowd would’ve popped huge for a Cope/Christian win. Instead, it was like a fart in church when Mox won.

I love how everything is great except mone hogan and Mox continue to try to upstage everyone.

 

[CrittendenWildcat]

This review seems fairly accurate…

I was sick today and wasn't feeling up to it. Of the four matches I was hyped for, I decided the one I would go out of my way for was Mox vs Cope for the world title. I've been hyped for them to go at it since Cope returned, as he is my second favorite wrestler and Mox is Mox.

F*** me for making that decision.

For starters, the crowd. I dunno I've been to livlier funerals. A spear off the apron and a stomp on the concrete earned golf claps, there was maybe one or two chants during the match, and the pops were tiny. I get it was a smaller crowd for a ppv, but it was also LA, which isn't exactly a quiet town.

The match itself moved at a snails pace that can be best described as "slow”.I understand what they were trying to do, but the pacing of this match makes peak "Blandy Borton" (he's so good I hate this was even a thing) look like Will Ospreay. The first five or so minutes was a strike fest, which can work when the crowd is into it. Watching two guys punch each other in the face in a room so quiet you can hear the impacts just ain't it. Cope quite frankly looked like sh** compared to just a year ago when he was TNT champ, and Mox was wrestling like a parody of himself. Deliberately slow, deliberately no selling everything, deliberately methodical.

And then there's the finish. Holy s***. I dunno who Christian pissed off, but they f***ing buried him tonight. And I know that phrase gets overused, but I don't know what else to call it. He cashes in the contract he's held for six months, and then gets dominated by Mox in about four minutes. Like, are you shi**ng me? All that build, all that hype, the fact that Mox didn't have his group, didn't even need to be pinned, and you f**king jobbed Christian out?

Where does this even lead? Cope looks like a broken old man, Mox looks the exact same as he normally does, and Christian looks like a joke. Of course the one guy to come out on top at the end was Will Washington's nepopushed cousin. He probably beats Mox too doesn't he? Ya know, f*** it I don't care if he does, anything to end this abysmal reign.

Overwhelming opinion is that the main event was horrible in many, many ways, but there were some great matches on the undercard and the whole PPV would have been considered an all-time great IF they could have nailed the main event. Also can't blame the crowd for being dead when they just watched multiple gems, but the 14th and final match of the long night was a turd. Finally, the inference that Swerve is where he is now because of nepotism seems insulting given the hard work and the fan support that hard work has gotten him.

 

[Wesley91581]

Overwhelming opinion is that the main event was horrible in many, many ways, but there were some great matches on the undercard and the whole PPV would have been considered an all-time great IF they could have nailed the main event. Also can't blame the crowd for being dead when they just watched multiple gems, but the 14th and final match of the long night was a turd. Finally, the inference that Swerve is where he is now because of nepotism seems insulting given the hard work and the fan support that hard work has gotten him.

Not disagreeing but my argument was even the biggest AEW fans (this guy even sounds like a mox fan too) are clamoring for Mox to drop the belt but TK continues to swing and miss on this despite the undercard being home runs.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Not disagreeing but my argument was even the biggest AEW fans (this guy even sounds like a mox fan too) are clamoring for Mox to drop the belt but TK continues to swing and miss on this despite the undercard being home runs.

When AEW first started it’s main event scene was fire and the undercard sometimes left a little to be desired. Now, the undercard is fantastic and the main event picture is meh.

Death Riders is one giant misfire and the owner can’t/won’t see it.

 

[Nightwish84]

After five years, TK still doesn't understand match position and then went full Vince at the end to please his ex-WWE pals, pal.

 

[K-mac18]

There's some folks that believe a (Men's) World Title match should always close the show. Maybe Tony falls in that category. Last night wasn't that night.

With a couple of exceptions from what I could tell the crowd was great for the show.

Anyway Raw for tonight

CM Punk vs. Seth Rollins in a Steel Cage Match.
Tornado Tag Team Match: New Day vs. Rey Mysterio & Dragon Lee.
AJ Styles calls out Logan Paul.
Grayson Waller vs. Jey Uso.
Cody Rhodes and IYO Sky to appear

Madison Square Garden is also advertising WWE World Heavyweight Champion GUNTHER, Rhea Ripley, Penta and Liv Morgan.

 

[MegaBlue05]

After five years, TK still doesn't understand match position ...

Exactly this.

In no world should Ospreay go on just before the main event. There's no way a guy pushing 40 and another over 50 are going to top that cage match. I would've put the Mone match in between Ospreay/Fletcher and the main event.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

World title generally should be last, but there are certainly exceptions to be made. Like mania 25. Does ANYONE remember HHH / Orton from that show? Nope, all taker and Michaels

 

[Nightwish84]

You can generally guess what should start and what should finish. There were lots of guesses as to the finish of the actual main event but realistically no one was invested in the DR/Copeland/Christian cash-in. Everyone was invested in Storm/May. I think that earned main event status for one night. It's arguably AEW's longest and most compelling story. I can quibble about it being a little silly at times but honestly it was mostly fantastic. That's RJ City for ya. Good storytelling mind.

Regardless, sounds like it was still a great night of wrestling. I knew just from the card it'd be very good.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

HHH should bring back the blue cage

 

[Glenn's take]

HHH should bring back the blue cage

Wasn't that made pretty much specifically for Hogan because he couldn't climb a regular cage?

 

[WildcatFan1982]

No clue, but still needs to come back. Just give me one good door to the face shot and I’m good

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[Glenn's take]

No clue, but still needs to come back. Just give me one good door to the face shot and I’m good

Not dissing Hogan on this but his feet were just too big to fit into a chain link fence. I wonder if in his prime physically if he could do it.

 

[GeraldV]

Tough ask for WWE to have a cage match tonight after Ospreay and and Fletcher killed it last night.

 

[Wesley91581]

Someone on Reddit was marking out over omega and Takeshita’s ring gear. Clearly some of this stuff is for the sickos and not us regular fans.

 

[GeraldV]

I had raw on in the background last night, doing a fantasy baseball draft. The New Day match looked pretty good from what little I saw. Is it worth going back and watching in full?

 

[K-mac18]

Don't usually talk that much about NXT but they've got a big show tonight. Curious how the women's match goes.

WWE NXT Champion Oba Femi vs. TNA X-Division Champion Moose.
TNA Tag Team Champions The Hardys vs, WWE NXT Tag Team Champions Nathan Frazer and Axiom.
WWE NXT Women’s Champion GIULIA vs. WWE NXT Women’s North American Champion Stephanie Vaquer - Title vs. Title.

 

[Wesley91581]

Don't usually talk that much about NXT but they've got a big show tonight. Curious how the women's match goes.

WWE NXT Champion Oba Femi vs. TNA X-Division Champion Moose.
TNA Tag Team Champions The Hardys vs, WWE NXT Tag Team Champions Nathan Frazer and Axiom.
WWE NXT Women’s Champion GIULIA vs. WWE NXT Women’s North American Champion Stephanie Vaquer - Title vs. Title.

Stinks I know who won the women’s match - impossible to keep injury under wraps that long without accidentally seeing something online.

 

[Nightwish84]

Women's match will main event. Not crazy about giving one person two titles but Vaquer has more appeal right now anyway. Giulia is coming along but Vaquer has already connected with fans. Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Vaquer was given the option to debut on the main roster or spend time in NXT.

 

[Wesley91581]

Women's match will main event. Not crazy about giving one person two titles but Vaquer has more appeal right now anyway. Giulia is coming along but Vaquer has already connected with fans. Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Vaquer was given the option to debut on the main roster or spend time in NXT.

Vaquer is beautiful!

 

[Wesley91581]

I don’t think you’ll see many women go to AEW - Vaquer was smart and saw the writing on the wall that Sasha Hogan runs the women’s division as well as Toni Storm. Grace/Vaquer/Guilua can be great on the main roster when it’s their turn to jump and hit the upper mid card/main event scene.

 

[GeraldV]

I don’t think you’ll see many women go to AEW - Vaquer was smart and saw the writing on the wall that Sasha Hogan runs the women’s division as well as Toni Storm. Grace/Vaquer/Guilua can be great on the main roster when it’s their turn to jump and hit the upper mid card/main event scene.

Yeah, Charlotte is an afterthought in the E, right? Hell, her 15 year reign of terror in that division is probably the most dominant since Moolah, lol.

 

[Wesley91581]

Yeah, Charlotte is an afterthought in the E, right? Hell, her 15 year reign of terror in that division is probably the most dominant since Moolah, lol.

Haha there’s 2-3 rosters she can’t be on every show. Shes also a part timer and will prob disappear after wm.