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CI Wrestling Thread #56

If they didn't want a big name to win they should have let Logan Paul take it. At least that wouldn't have been such a dud and would have caused somewhat of a buzz.

Outside of Jey's entrance, I don't see much there for me.
 
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If you think about it, Jey went from tag team to singles fighting for the IC title to fans worldwide getting behind him to having opportunities for a world title to winning the Rumble and ensuring a main event spot at Mania. For old school fans like myself who like watching someone go from A to B to C and not necessarily A to C (MITB, gauntlet matches, random undeserving title matches), last night was sort of refreshing. It's why I used to love career mode in WWE games. You'd start on Heat or something, then SD, then Raw and PPVs, then you'd get title matches. Gunther vs Jey doesn't scream "main event of WM" but it completely makes sense and totally works...it's just a night one thing while a Cody vs Cena match would entirely overshadow it.
He also sells a ton of merch so it’s almost an earned not given thing - the same people (iwc) that wanted Cena to win were the same that didn’t like the years long super Cena phase.

 
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What’s your favorite gimmick match format? Basically anything but the standard singles/tag/trios match

For the more hardcore variety, I’d go with an I Quit match. Runner up would be a cage match, but only win by pinfall or submission type, not a fan of the escape the cage type.

For the less hardcore variety, Ironman match. Runner up would be 2 out of 3 falls but it needs to be a marathon match. If it’s going to be less than 20 minutes match then just give me a regular match.
Elimination Chamber
 
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I get that people love to yell “Yeet” (the f*ck knows why, but they do) and he sells merch, but you want one of your top two guys to be good on the mic/ring, and he’s just not good at either. Put the IC belt on him or something, but he’d be an awful top-2 champ.
 
I get that people love to yell “Yeet” (the f*ck knows why, but they do) and he sells merch, but you want one of your top two guys to be good on the mic/ring, and he’s just not good at either. Put the IC belt on him or something, but he’d be an awful top-2 champ.
They did put the ic belt on him then Steiner got it back.

I mean I get what you’re saying but Rey got a title run and so did Kofi - it happens and sometimes loyalty is rewarded.
 
I get that people love to yell “Yeet” (the f*ck knows why, but they do) and he sells merch, but you want one of your top two guys to be good on the mic/ring, and he’s just not good at either. Put the IC belt on him or something, but he’d be an awful top-2 champ.
Let him cook. I'm sure he will be fine and maybe we get some other new runs this year like Sami or Breakker.
 
Could be worse and your only company champ is Jon moxley.
I actually don't hate Moxley. I kind of just feel bad that he's in that situation. I know he does a lot of it to himself but Tony Khan is also the biggest Mox mark in the world so he's got no one telling him no on shit. We all need that person in our life that will tell us we are being stupid.
 
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I went to the Rumble over the weekend and had a great time. My son is 9 and taking him reminds me so much of when my dad used to always take me to the matches at the Cincinnati Gardens. Some observations:

1. A lot of grown men carry around replica wrestling belts...I mean, a lot
2. The tag team match was like a Tuesday night non-conference game against Ball State in Rupp Arena. The energy was totally sucked out of that place when it happened. It was the time most went to get food, bathroom, etc.
3. When someone gets a pop when their music starts, the sound in the stadium is insane compared to what you hear on TV. the countdown and the anticipation is by far the best part of the entire night.
4. Don't know if they showed this at all on TV, but when someone got eliminated and not all 30 had come out yet, they would walk them through the crowd to the right of the announcers, put them in a golf cart and then drive by a large section of fans (picture front row of the 50 yard line all the way past the endzone). It was the golf cart of shame.
5. I remember back to the 80's and how they would have celebrities as part of the events. Streamers and Youtubers are those new celebrities now. I had no idea who IShowSpeed was (I'm 48 for reference), but my son went nuts.
6. I was bummed they didn't bring any surprise old school wrestlers out in the mens.

It was a ton of fun and we are already talking about the other PPV's we are going to go to. I love watching these things through the eyes of my son. Reminds me of when I used to cheer for Tommy Rich, the Rock n' Roll Express and Nikita Koloff.
 
3. When someone gets a pop when their music starts, the sound in the stadium is insane compared to what you hear on TV. the countdown and the anticipation is by far the best part of the entire night.
I went on Peacock Sunday to see how audible the crowd pops were for the women’s Rumble entrance given what I read. Whoever set up the crowd mics didn’t do a particularly good job, or WWE had the crowd mic volume turned way down. Perhaps a mix of both.

For example, the sound of the crowd doing the countdown was often louder than whenever people figured out who was coming out. Then most of the wrestlers come out and you hear little to nothing from the crowd. Which okay I get that for someone like Candice LaRae because no one cares about her anyway, but it was just weird for the more popular names to have little crowd noise for their entrance. Especially in WWE where entrances are pretty commonly the thing that produces the largest pops on the night.

Just felt like the energy in the venue was very poorly relayed thru the audio.
 
I went to the Rumble over the weekend and had a great time. My son is 9 and taking him reminds me so much of when my dad used to always take me to the matches at the Cincinnati Gardens. Some observations:

1. A lot of grown men carry around replica wrestling belts...I mean, a lot
2. The tag team match was like a Tuesday night non-conference game against Ball State in Rupp Arena. The energy was totally sucked out of that place when it happened. It was the time most went to get food, bathroom, etc.
3. When someone gets a pop when their music starts, the sound in the stadium is insane compared to what you hear on TV. the countdown and the anticipation is by far the best part of the entire night.
4. Don't know if they showed this at all on TV, but when someone got eliminated and not all 30 had come out yet, they would walk them through the crowd to the right of the announcers, put them in a golf cart and then drive by a large section of fans (picture front row of the 50 yard line all the way past the endzone). It was the golf cart of shame.
5. I remember back to the 80's and how they would have celebrities as part of the events. Streamers and Youtubers are those new celebrities now. I had no idea who IShowSpeed was (I'm 48 for reference), but my son went nuts.
6. I was bummed they didn't bring any surprise old school wrestlers out in the mens.

It was a ton of fun and we are already talking about the other PPV's we are going to go to. I love watching these things through the eyes of my son. Reminds me of when I used to cheer for Tommy Rich, the Rock n' Roll Express and Nikita Koloff.
That’s awesome to hear - connecting with something with your kid is awesome my dad and I shared pro wrestling as a bonding as well.

Like you said I don’t know ishowspeed either but his twitter post from rr got 500k likes and they did a pan around the Indy superstore and a few kids were in line to buy his shirt.
 
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It was partly his new (awful) music, but Finn got absolutely no reaction. He's a guy that probably should've went to AEW instead of re-signing. He just doesn't have any juice in WWE and hasn't for years.

Someone on reddit caught this but when Punk and Owens did their thing on SD, Punk mocked Owens by saying only one of them has lost to Logan Paul. Cut to the Rumble where Paul tossed Punk out. Don't think we're now getting those two for Mania but it's just another one of those little threads creative comes up with to link a few guys together.
 
It was partly his new (awful) music, but Finn got absolutely no reaction. He's a guy that probably should've went to AEW instead of re-signing. He just doesn't have any juice in WWE and hasn't for years.

Someone on reddit caught this but when Punk and Owens did their thing on SD, Punk mocked Owens by saying only one of them has lost to Logan Paul. Cut to the Rumble where Paul tossed Punk out. Don't think we're now getting those two for Mania but it's just another one of those little threads creative comes up with to link a few guys together.
Finn could have potentially fit in well in AEW. I'm sure New Japan would love the chance to be able to book Prince Devitt again if nothing else.
 
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It was partly his new (awful) music, but Finn got absolutely no reaction. He's a guy that probably should've went to AEW instead of re-signing. He just doesn't have any juice in WWE and hasn't for years.

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Finn hasn't had any WWE juice, IMHO, since they took the Demon basically and shifted the motif over to Bray Wyatt.
 
It was partly his new (awful) music, but Finn got absolutely no reaction. He's a guy that probably should've went to AEW instead of re-signing. He just doesn't have any juice in WWE and hasn't for years.

Someone on reddit caught this but when Punk and Owens did their thing on SD, Punk mocked Owens by saying only one of them has lost to Logan Paul. Cut to the Rumble where Paul tossed Punk out. Don't think we're now getting those two for Mania but it's just another one of those little threads creative comes up with to link a few guys together.
The AJ/Finn confrontation at rr was interesting bc of their past but ya ever since Finn got hurt after getting the belt he’s gotten no traction - he’d been perfect for AEW.

They could run Punk/Paul at Summerslam but ya hhh does a great job of having people with multiple adversaries - it’s good b/c it makes it easy to pivot if someone gets hurt they can run that feud back later.
 
The AJ/Finn confrontation at rr was interesting bc of their past but ya ever since Finn got hurt after getting the belt he’s gotten no traction - he’d been perfect for AEW.
Them never giving Finn another run with a top belt after having to drop it due to injury after one day is a disgrace.

Would be fun to see him, and like I said a few minutes ago, he could have fit in potentially well, but I'm good with adding anymore 40+ year old WWE guys at this point. What Cope has done since coming back from injury at the beginning of the year has really soured me on them older ex-WWE guys. I actually liked what he was doing before the injury. I was pretty skeptical of the on-screen utility of him when he signed, but he won me over. Then he comes back and is immediately inserted into the world title scene, get that crap out of here.
 
Them never giving Finn another run with a top belt after having to drop it due to injury after one day is a disgrace.

Would be fun to see him, and like I said a few minutes ago, he could have fit in potentially well, but I'm good with adding anymore 40+ year old WWE guys at this point. What Cope has done since coming back from injury at the beginning of the year has really soured me on them older ex-WWE guys. I actually liked what he was doing before the injury. I was pretty skeptical of the on-screen utility of him when he signed, but he won me over. Then he comes back and is immediately inserted into the world title scene, get that crap out of here.
Vince had a way when someone got hurt to completely sour on them especially since he was an nxt call up.
 
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