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Chris Livingston contract

Good for him but this is yet another reason I have lost all interest in the NBA. It’s anything but a professional league anymore when they are handing out contracts to players of his caliber and that’s been going on a long time now.

Or just maybe the league is making that much money in spite of losing the interest of cat2010.
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Just a thought.
 
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You do know most players that enter the draft with his draft stock wind up making a few hundred thousand dollars and then getting bounced from the league, best case scenario for most is being on the bottom of nba rosters but getting traded around enough and just barely staying on rosters for 7 years, pocketing a few million.

This is an anomaly of a contract, and while Chris' ceiling is worthy of a lottery pick if he had displayed more shades of it, he didn't, but a shady management agency has manipulated this situation into Chris getting a bizarrely high contract, seemingly as an advertisement to entice other kids into signing with the agency.
This 100%….this isn’t about Chris and I know that’s hard to see at this point until the other shoe drops. But this is about Milwaukee sucking up to Klutch for some future reason. Klutch was really taking serious heat in basketball circles with younger players after they all but guaranteed the Livingston camp a first round pick and couldn’t deliver. Milwaukee is bailing Klutch out (to a degree only 2 years guaranteed) and I’ll be fascinated to see what future player or transaction they are trying to horse trade for.
 
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, but the irony in your post is that McIlroy is about 5’8”. One of the shortest guys on tour and hits absolute nukes.
Yeah I mean a lot of it is flexibility and the strength he’s gained working hard. I don’t mean giants but most longer hitters are above 6 foot tall. Longer arms gives a longer swing arc. Guys like Sergio Garcia that are smaller but generate a lot of hand lag get speed too.
 
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No, he got it based on his skills being good enough to work with and match his athleticism.
Sharpe and Livingston are talked down by almost all fans on this board and it's all because they didn't want to stay around for your enjoyment. I wanted both back , but for anyone to say they can't see Livingston having bball skill is just not true. After watching him in the Bahamas it sure sounded different. I guess a couple of 3 pointers going in blinds everyone's ability to see a kid can improve.

Stop making sense and acting like an adult.
 
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Hes gonna need a part time job because if he thinks he's rich, that money will be gone in a year.
He does need to hire a professional to advise him or he will probably spend it all away in a relatively short span of time.
 
He does need to hire a professional to advise him or he will probably spend it all away in a relatively short span of time.
He doesn't get it all at once. WTF after he messes up the first two years he should realize to slow down. If not f@$% em. He would deserve it.
 
Or just maybe the league is making that much money in spite of losing the interest of cat2010.
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Just a thought.
There are lots of things that do quite well that I have zero interest in, the NBA is just one of them. Some things like nascar, soccer, and hockey for example I’ve never had interest in, the NBA I was once a huge fan, now won’t give it 2 seconds of my time. The nba was a much more popular product in the 90’s vs now and it’s not even close yet there is more money now vs then so who cares.
 
There are lots of things that do quite well that I have zero interest in, the NBA is just one of them. Some things like nascar, soccer, and hockey for example I’ve never had interest in, the NBA I was once a huge fan, now won’t give it 2 seconds of my time. The nba was a much more popular product in the 90’s vs now and it’s not even close yet there is more money now vs then so who cares.
Or maybe you just had more interest when you were 30 years younger. Maybe your interest changed. Why was it much more popular just because you watched it then. Wouldn’t the massive money Boost indicate more popularity now?
 
He doesn't get it all at once. WTF after he messes up the first two years he should realize to slow down. If not f@$% em. He would deserve it.
As a CPA I understand he does not get it all at once and probably half of the guarantee will go to taxes. The remaining income he needs to handle wisely because it could be the most money he ever earns playing ball.
 
Or maybe you just had more interest when you were 30 years younger. Maybe your interest changed. Why was it much more popular just because you watched it then. Wouldn’t the massive money Boost indicate more popularity now?
I think it would more indicate the Chinese involvement in the money flow to the NBA today. The NBA makes roughly $5 billion a year from China.

Four of the five lowest-rated NBA Finals of the past 30 years have occurred in the past four years. That doesn’t scream more popularity to me.
 
But… but… a lot of adults on this message board were telling us how stupid he was and how he shouldn’t listen to his agent and cancel his workouts and would’ve been better off coming back to UK to play for free?

What happened?


There certainly are fans here that were this way and just mad that he didn’t come back, but there are also reasonable fans.

This goes both ways.

1: he wouldn’t have played for free, woulda cleared 6 figures at least and could have bargained for much more this year

2: you would be foolish to not realize coming back could have easily helped him make way more money. Had he been even a top 15 pick he would make more in 2 years than this entire contract or close to it.

3: there is also the possibility that he hurts his stock if he doesn’t improve so if this happened then the 7.7 million would have been a great great decision.


I am hoping he does the same thing other cats have done and finds himself and has a great career and gets that second contract. Anyone who doesn’t want him to be successful is just an ass. Anyone debating whether or not he will be successful can always have that debate. Regardless of whether he averages 20 a game or 0 he has a great 2 year window to try and make it and I hope he does.
 
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Or maybe you just had more interest when you were 30 years younger. Maybe your interest changed. Why was it much more popular just because you watched it then. Wouldn’t the massive money Boost indicate more popularity now?
I certainly did have more interest then than I do now but it’s not that hard to search popularity of the league then vs now.
 
Bingo. See how that works?
Yeah I do. And you’re the one who has a problem with it. Idc if someone replies to me and gives their thoughts on my conversation with someone else. It’s a message board, that’s one of the things that happens here.

You’re the one who has an issue with it. Yet you just did it to me. Don’t condemn something that you actively practice.

See how that works? Take your narcissism to someone who appreciates it, thanks.
 
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As a CPA I understand he does not get it all at once and probably half of the guarantee will go to taxes. The remaining income he needs to handle wisely because it could be the most money he ever earns playing ball.
Yeah I do. And you’re the one who has a problem with it. Idc if someone replies to me and gives their thoughts on my conversation with someone else. It’s a message board, that’s one of the things that happens here.

You’re the one who has an issue with it. Yet you just did it to me. Don’t condemn something that you actively practice.

See how that works? Take your narcissism to someone who appreciates it, thanks.
So many words.
 
But… but… a lot of adults on this message board were telling us how stupid he was and how he shouldn’t listen to his agent and cancel his workouts and would’ve been better off coming back to UK to play for free?

What happened?
Man. I was one of them saying this is stupid for him to not come back ….but I was wrong.

How a 6”6 wing wjtb a below average deep ball and literally bad handles average 6 pts and 4 boards in college as a fifth option on the floor (he was literally unguarded most games) but a plus athlete can score a 7.7M contract blows my mind….but that is today NBA.

So kudos for Chris
 
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So many words.
If you’re having trouble with the bigger paragraphs there’s some programs that should help. Two that come to mind are hooked on phonics and reading rainbow. If you need a sponsor I’d be willing but I would need to see your grades every week.
 
Yeah I do. And you’re the one who has a problem with it. Idc if someone replies to me and gives their thoughts on my conversation with someone else. It’s a message board, that’s one of the things that happens here.

You’re the one who has an issue with it. Yet you just did it to me. Don’t condemn something that you actively practice.

See how that works? Take your narcissism to someone who appreciates it, thanks.
Truth
 
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I think what he’s saying is the kid is 18 years old. After taxes the 4 million will be around 2 million. He’s a rookie not an accountant - he doesn’t have this job for 30 years. So if this is his only contract it would be equivalent to someone that made 66k for 30 years. Except they didn’t get 66k a year spread out, they got it as a lump sum all at once. And he doesn’t live in small town Kentucky where he can buy a house for 200k, he lives in a big NBA city where a condo is 1.5million. I think that’s the point - he’s certainly not set for life. I mean a top level trainer for him is probably 6 figures a year alone.
Dude, he’s set for life unless he’s an idiot. There is no city in America you can’t live for 7 million dollars. You act like he can’t possibly earn more after 4 years. He’ll be earning a good salary somewhere even if it’s not in the NBA. And getting a lump sum is infinitely better than getting it spread out. Hell if he wants it spread out he could buy an annuity paid over 30 years and get a lot more than 66k a year in later years. Especially while interest rates are high. You’d have to be reckless to mess this up. In fairness, a lot of kids are reckless with money though.
 
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Dude, he’s set for life unless he’s an idiot. There is no city in America you can’t live for 7 million dollars. You act like he can’t possibly earn more after 4 years. He’ll be earning a good salary somewhere even if it’s not in the NBA. And getting a lump sum is infinitely better than getting it spread out. Hell if he wants it spread out he could buy an annuity paid over 30 years and get a lot more than 66k a year in later years. Especially while interest rates are high. You’d have to be reckless to mess this up. In fairness, a lot of kids are reckless with money though.
Plenty of young dudes have blown much, much more money than this.
 
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As for your second thought the guy you’re responding to said he was guessing. He never made anything up. He guessed and he made it very clear he guessed. So take a chill pill and realize that every second you spent on learning the NBA’s new cba (or whatever it is) was an enormous waste of time.
It was a stupid guess. ;)
 
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There are lots of things that do quite well that I have zero interest in, the NBA is just one of them. Some things like nascar, soccer, and hockey for example I’ve never had interest in, the NBA I was once a huge fan, now won’t give it 2 seconds of my time. The nba was a much more popular product in the 90’s vs now and it’s not even close yet there is more money now vs then so who cares.

And you measure popularity how exactly?
 
As there are vastly more options to attract viewership.
Well, if your argument is it's impossible to measure popularity then I guess the conversation can stop here. I think television ratings is a good place to start. I can say with a great deal of confidence that most of my peers watched the NBA pretty religiously in the 90s and none of them do now. That's anecdotal but I think it could probably be extrapolated across the country.
 
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