Chalk Talk: Maggard Calls Missouri Game 'Season Defining'
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Don't see how it could be season defining when there are another 8 games after it.
If we lose this one, every game will be season defining until we have lost 7.
They're down, we're up (supposedly), 10 point game at their place last year, no more excuses, it's time to step up to the plate and deliver.
It's defining because if we win we would prob go into the Auburn game 4-1. There would be a lot of national hype because its,a Thursday night game. The players, fans and recruits would be stoked. It would give UK huge momentum for the 2nd half if the season.
Lose the game and everything drops a notch or 2 below where it is now.
Lose the game and everything drops a notch or 2 below where it is now.
Then you don't understand where uk has been for the past 40 odd years. Missouri has won the east back to back, this would be huge. We all are aware there are 8 more games, DS.
I somewhat agree that its season defining, Mizzou is traditionally a very solid team and if UK wants to make any in roads vs the SEC it has to start winning some games and against a team that we have the potential to beat. Hopefully after the Florida loss we can adjust and improve on offense.
I like Freddie and do not want to disagree with him, but if we beat Mizzou and beat a UGA or Auburn or a UT, I'd say that upset would be more defining than a win over Mizzou.
I definitely get the point, but it is so early and we are so young. The kids on defense have really matured up the last 3 weeks. How good can they get?
I do not disagree that this win is huge and a major step in the right direction.
I definitely get the point, but it is so early and we are so young. The kids on defense have really matured up the last 3 weeks. How good can they get?
I do not disagree that this win is huge and a major step in the right direction.
Well yeah beating one of those three would be bigger, but are any likely? UGA and UT seem very unlikely to me at present. AU more so, but still going to be tough unless we get more consistent offense. Missouri is the 2 time east champ and that will get UK a lil respect as they will be 4-1 going into AU with only a 5 point loss to FL in a toughly contested game as their one blemish.
I'll agree with Freddie if only for the reason the fans and the team were very pumped up following a solid win only to be disappointed playing poorly against Florida. You want to keep the momentum of the non diehard fan in the program so this game is very important and you want to go 4-1. A loss very well could put the team in the same situation as last season. Heading into UL with 5 wins.
I don't think he is far off. We all thought a win over UF was likely and many think Mizzou is worse than UF. We came within a couple bad passes and a couple dropped passes of picking off UF. We have out recruited Mizzou the last several years and we should win this game at home. Crowd shows up and makes it deafening for them we should win.
A loss is unexpected this season. A loss and we have to pick off AU to assure 7-8 wins this season.
A loss is unexpected this season. A loss and we have to pick off AU to assure 7-8 wins this season.
I think it is unfair to put all the eggs in one basket for the 4th game of the season.
at this point I figure we are not going to win on Sat, because Mizzou has been a far better team than Florida the last 2 seasons and well we just lost to Florida. Also because our problems on offense ain't gonna get fixed in 6 days time going against a defense just as nasty, maybe even more disruptive in the pass rush and penetrating upfield than UF was.
But, as I said, this will only be the 4th game of the season. We will get better with the week & a half rest time/preparation for Auburn. Then 9 days rest/prep for Miss St. UT @ Halloween might be for me a more season-defining game for this program's 3rd year measuring stick than this Saturday against 2 time defending SEC E champs.
at this point I figure we are not going to win on Sat, because Mizzou has been a far better team than Florida the last 2 seasons and well we just lost to Florida. Also because our problems on offense ain't gonna get fixed in 6 days time going against a defense just as nasty, maybe even more disruptive in the pass rush and penetrating upfield than UF was.
But, as I said, this will only be the 4th game of the season. We will get better with the week & a half rest time/preparation for Auburn. Then 9 days rest/prep for Miss St. UT @ Halloween might be for me a more season-defining game for this program's 3rd year measuring stick than this Saturday against 2 time defending SEC E champs.
I see it as a great opportunity (i.e., 3-1 start, 2-1 in SEC play) but hardly "season defining". I have posited a number of times that a victory in ANY of those 1st 3 SEC tilts would likely be the key step to the season most want. And that was accomplished in Columbia. Big, big difference between a 2-2 start a 1-3 start.
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At this point, beating Auburn is more likely than beating Miss. St. I'm not sure that Tennessee at home is more difficult than Miss. St. on the road; I would think that we'd be at least a 7 point dog to Miss. St. and probably at most a 7 point dog to Tenn. This is still a very important game to Missouri, the kind of game that we absolutely have to win to show that we're taking the next step.
I agree with him just because without this game we may still make a bowl but an average season is probably the ceiling. Win this game and an over achieving season is still possible by picking off one of the unexpected teams and beating EKU, Vandy, UofL, and Charlotte.
And traditionally very disciplined and well coached. Gary Pinkle is extremely underrated as a coach.
The difference is, by all rights we should beat Mizzou. The other teams would require a few breaks to go our way.
As a program, we need to start winning these UF and Mizzou games if we're ever going to climb the ladder. We gave one away last weekend. Can ill afford to do the same this weekend
Additonally, another bad outing by Towles will only magnify the growing number of fans calling for Barker. The program can ill afford that either.
Yes and everyone knows the staff will immediately yield to the fan base. You have to remember one thing. The staff doesn't make knee jerk reactions.
Hypothetical
Ky Coach bigblueinsanity hears whispers that the fan base is unhappy with QB A.
In his haste to appease the masses he replaces QB A with QB B while the team is 2-1. The fans go nuts.
Ky Coach bigblueinsanity is a happy guy.
Well lets say, hypothetically speaking, things go south real quick for QB B. Fans are screaming for a new QB. Wanting desperately to appease the fan base QB A is brought back and saves the day. KY makes it to a bowl, just barely. QB A plays his you know what off.
Ky Coach bigblueinsasnity has learned that QB B was not all he was cracked up to be.
The day after the Bowl victory Quarterback A comes in and says, "Thanks Coach, I've enjoyed it here, but I'm gonna play somewhere else." (QB A can leave and be eligible immediately almost anywhere else.)
Ky Coach bigblueinsasnity is now in a quandary. He just lost QB A and QB B was a bust. That's ok Coach bigblueinsasnity, QB F (freshman) is coming in next year.
My point is that there are a lot of variables that go into making personnel decisions on a football team, particularly at the QB position. An uninformed message board or fan base is not likely where this staff is going to look for guidance.
We are 2-1, and really could easily be 3-1. Coach Stoops seemed to be more giddy that the fan base is mad because we're not undefeated after playing S. C. and FLA. Everyone take a deep breath.
I posted before the season this would be our biggest game. Most everyone said Florida. Still think this is very important but that SC win helped tremendously. We need this one!! Feel like we will get it. Have to believe we took a lot of lessons from last weeks loss. Dawson interestingly said We need to not care so much and play loose like in practice in an empty stadium.
Hard to fathom that. We might be 3-0, but beat Arkie State but 7 and and bad Uconn team at home by 3. Our defense is pretty good. If someone steps on offense we might play the Cats a close game. See you at the game. Doing Woodfard Reserve and horse park for sure. Is Shaker Village a must see?
Forgot one question. I see there are 3 parking garages. How many levels and how early to get in one of those? Or if you have any other suggestions. We were hoping to tailgate. Would pour you a mean Malibu and coke for helpful info. I know, bourbon should be the obvious choice, and if I can find some good bourbon I might have that also.
It's extremely unlikely that "Quarterback A" would transfer at the end of the season if he replaces "Quarterback B" and finishes the season as the starter. If the head coach is scared to play the backup for fear that the starter will transfer, then he is one poor coach. Stoops is not a poor coach.
If QB B takes the job, then he wont be a bust. Im not even sure what youre trying to say.
Look, Ive posted time and again that we all want Towles to succeed, lead this team to wins and be drafted high. Its by far the best outcome for the program. We dont want him failing.
Personally, I dont think Barker is better than Towles right now. But I also know a coaches job is to do whats best for the program, not just for a particular season. Long term, Towles succeeding is the best for the program.
Absolutely a season defining game. You win and your 4-1 entering Auburn, you lose you're 3-2. May not seem like much but when you explore the rest of the season this game is the difference between say 8-4 and 6-6, maybe even 5-7. This game is REALLY important.
Agree, This game will make our season go or kill it, if we want to win 6 or 7 games & go Bowling .
Don't contradict yourself, it's big. We win this, we are in great position for the remainder of the season.
We get better and we are also in great position for the remainder of the season. It's not season defining unless it's the only way the season is considered a success.
Surprised a former college athlete would honestly think this way. That's why I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming it was said for different reasons.
The poeple that dont think this is season defining are just not being realistic. We all know we will win against EKU and Charlotte. We should win at Vandy which gives us 5 wins. We have very little chance at UGA and home against UT and I would be really surprised to win at MSU. That leaves Mizzou, Auburn, and UL with the best chance obviously being Mizzou or possibly UL. We can live in this fantasy world where all games are winnable but looking at it objectively if we don't beat Mizzou the pressure is going to keep rising and the margin for error gets smaller and smaller.
Again, amazing as always the lack of respect given to Missouri who has won the SEC East the last 2 seasons and the fearful trembling given to a UT team that has gone 5-7, 7-6.
Isn't it something?
South Carolina was the most important game in school history. Then Florida was. Now Mizzou is. In 3 weeks it is the Thurs night national TV game against Auburn. Then @ MIss State will be THE DEFINING GAME of the Stoops/Dawson/Towles era. And then UT at Halloween will be it.
Yeah I don't understand when people say that this game will or won't create the tempo for the rest of the season. We win this game and everyting looks better going forward. But hey we have some people on here that believe that it isn't a big deal and we'll just be happy with mediocrity. This game dictates the rest of the season or hey i don't know maybe they should have won last week.
