Oh, I know that Diallo is offensively raw, but he's not as raw as is being projected here. Is he as good as Skal, no and probably no by a wide margin. But Diallo is going to allow us to play a more uptempo game and he's going to be able to score in transition, as he is typically the first down the court. If we play a half court game in January, it will play into Kentucky's hands, as it takes away Diallo's strengths.
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Oh, I know that Diallo is offensively raw, but he's not as raw as is being projected here. Is he as good as Skal, no and probably no by a wide margin. But Diallo is going to allow us to play a more uptempo game and he's going to be able to score in transition, as he is typically the first down the court. If we play a half court game in January, it will play into Kentucky's hands, as it takes away Diallo's strengths.
Never said a thing about you dragging them "through the mud" (You said that.) but geez, why compare him to AD? Ahead of AD? Even just on offense? Tell me again how you are not putting just the least bit of undue pressure on the kid? I mean all AD did was win EVERYTHING.
You kind of made it sound like you agree too. Are you or aren't you owning it?
You do what you want. Wasn't trying to slow you down in the least but it may be an idea to give the kid a chance to be human and a freshman. I'd sure rather he beat expectations than suggest he is AD or better. I am not really sure that is even possible. (I guess it is but again I state.....geez...) Be Good
I don't anticipate Kansas running wild in transition vs. Kentucky. I'm sure you'll pull that off against some lesser opponents.
All he did was repeat what Matt Jones said… almost word for word actually . Matt made that statement last week on his show, from everything he is hearing from people that have been watching him practice is that the kid is not someone we need to pump our brakes on, the kid is legit and the positive comments are warranted. He didn't put any pressure on him at all, he just repeated what he heard.
I, for one, was very happy to hear Matt say that. Do with it what you want but from everything I've heard he's an offensive stud.
Tested in the Big XII, which has come in so handy five out of the last six years that Kentucky has went further in the tournament than the so much more tested Kansas team.
For some reason, I think this year will work the same way. Just a hunch.
Of course "he",,,,,,,, could have quoted MJ and all would have been more understandable to me. I still say why put an AD "noose"(figuratively) around the kid's neck at this juncture? I still do not understand it...(I used to read MJ's site but it's all I can do to stay off this site...)
Maybe I missed it, but Skal is still waiting to be cleared last I heard.
What happens to Kentucky when Lee has to start?
"More uptempo" does not equal "running wild".
You are changing the premise of my statement to something which was never claimed by me in an effort to change the argument and make my comment look stupid.
What the hell is wrong with you Kansas fans? We didn't write the damn article. Go talk to CBS if you don't like it.
Jesus, could you possibly pull at our pant legs any harder..
Jesus, could you possibly pull at our pant legs any harder..
What exactly is it that you think Ulis does? If he doesn't score or create, why is he so highly regarded? His rebounding?
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your info is 3 months old. We have Lee, who is a beanpole but a good defensive center, a 7 foot, 250 pound Australian and a 6'11'' 260 pound New Zealand bruiser coming in December.
You are on crack cocaine, seek help.
He's past crack...not sure what fried the brain but it is definitely fried...
Hi everyone. Nice thread. BKO just makes entirely such awesome comments and yet another +100% credit to yet another awesome response to a visiting fan. And also, what other team and message board have such awesome women on their sites that drop stupendously great posts like hers?
Just sayin'.
For the rest of you, keep up the good work posting and bringing worthwhile comments to threads. Even though the KU poster kinda' hijacked the thread with that ever-present jayhawk perspective we've come to know and love. No offense meant, but it kinda' borders on Card-Fan observations with the delusional comparisons. Again, no offense Trout, but it still makes us all kinda want to shake our collective heads.
The rest of my post will consist of the CBS sportsline piece. Not really much there, but the start-off to it centered around Maryland, and I still just don't see it from them this year. I'm going to reserve my judgment and say that I want to see them prove it on the court before I'm willing to think they're truly worthy of a top 3 rank and final four material this year. Then again, there have to be four teams in there by the end of the year, and they're as likely as anyone looking this far out to make it that far.
Arizona ? Well, I thought they'd make it last year. We know how that panned out. They've lost more than they're replacing from that team, and I have reservations about them. IU? Too much drinking and driving for me to want to take them seriously. Maybe if they sober up..... *wink* they can actually make the NCAAT again.
UNC, well, hell I'm still waiting for the shoe to drop on them. I know, I know, it'll never happen. Dammit.
I just like the vibe I'm getting with our guys, how things have panned out with COach Cal putting yet another awesome recruiting class together with great promise, a legit shot at another title, and final four. I'm finally over losing in the FF against Wisky last year. It feels good too.
Speaking of good vibes and feeling good, I finally got on disability. Got a new general practice doc and a new cancer and back doctor to oversee the brain tumor and shot back. No new surgeries in thiose departments and I'm good for another season, following our beloved Cats on yet another memorable run.
Planning on kicking back and enjoying the ride, however and wwhenever it ends, and whatever the fates may bring us.
The Runt is still chillin', reading and perusing our Rafters. Love to you all, I'll check in again in yet another random thread. Bout' time I'll be checking in and saying a few more things and giving shout outs.
Peace !
Just sayin'.
For the rest of you, keep up the good work posting and bringing worthwhile comments to threads. Even though the KU poster kinda' hijacked the thread with that ever-present jayhawk perspective we've come to know and love. No offense meant, but it kinda' borders on Card-Fan observations with the delusional comparisons. Again, no offense Trout, but it still makes us all kinda want to shake our collective heads.
The rest of my post will consist of the CBS sportsline piece. Not really much there, but the start-off to it centered around Maryland, and I still just don't see it from them this year. I'm going to reserve my judgment and say that I want to see them prove it on the court before I'm willing to think they're truly worthy of a top 3 rank and final four material this year. Then again, there have to be four teams in there by the end of the year, and they're as likely as anyone looking this far out to make it that far.
Arizona ? Well, I thought they'd make it last year. We know how that panned out. They've lost more than they're replacing from that team, and I have reservations about them. IU? Too much drinking and driving for me to want to take them seriously. Maybe if they sober up..... *wink* they can actually make the NCAAT again.
UNC, well, hell I'm still waiting for the shoe to drop on them. I know, I know, it'll never happen. Dammit.
I just like the vibe I'm getting with our guys, how things have panned out with COach Cal putting yet another awesome recruiting class together with great promise, a legit shot at another title, and final four. I'm finally over losing in the FF against Wisky last year. It feels good too.
Speaking of good vibes and feeling good, I finally got on disability. Got a new general practice doc and a new cancer and back doctor to oversee the brain tumor and shot back. No new surgeries in thiose departments and I'm good for another season, following our beloved Cats on yet another memorable run.
Planning on kicking back and enjoying the ride, however and wwhenever it ends, and whatever the fates may bring us.
The Runt is still chillin', reading and perusing our Rafters. Love to you all, I'll check in again in yet another random thread. Bout' time I'll be checking in and saying a few more things and giving shout outs.
Peace !
Since you like to compare both of our teams so much, let's look at it this way:
Look at out of conference:
Kansas:
Nov. 4: vs. Pittsburg State (exhibition)
Nov. 10: vs. Emporia State (exhibition)
Nov. 13: vs. Northern Colorado
Nov. 17: vs. Michigan State at United Center in Chicago (Champions Classic)
Nov. 23: vs. TBD (Maui Invitational in Hawaii)
Nov. 24: vs. TBD (Maui Invitational in Hawaii)
Nov. 25: vs. TBD (Maui Invitational in Hawaii)
Dec. 1: vs. Loyola (Maryland)
Dec. 5: vs. Harvard
Dec. 9: vs. Holy Cross
Dec. 12: vs. Oregon State at the Sprint Center
Dec. 19: vs. Montana
Dec. 22: at San Diego State
Dec. 29: vs. UC Irvine
Jan. 30: vs. Kentucky
Kentucky:
NOVEMBER
2 (Mon) * OTTAWA [TBA] TBA
6 (Fri) * KENTUCKY STATE [TBA] TBA
13 (Fri) 1 ALBANY [TBA] TBA
14 (Sat) 1 NJIT [TBA] TBA
17 (Tues) 2 vs. Duke [ESPN] 7:30 p.m.
20 (Fri) WRIGHT STATE [TBA] TBA
24 (Tues) 1 BOSTON [TBA] TBA
27 (Fri) 3 vs. South Florida [ESPN] 5 p.m.
30 (Mon) ILLINOIS STATE [ESPN2] 7 p.m.
DECEMBER
3 (Thurs) at UCLA [ESPN] 9 p.m.
9 (Wed) EASTERN KENTUCKY [ESPN2] 7 p.m.
12 (Sat) ARIZONA STATE [ESPN] 3:15 p.m.
19 (Sat) 4 vs. Ohio State [CBS] 3:30 p.m.
26 (Sat) LOUISVILLE [CBS] Noon
JANUARY
30 at Kansas
Compare the two schedules...
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'Bkocats', I've often enjoyed your posts. Thanks!
I just looked at the UK and KU schedules you posted, then ran some numbers on them. I will share what I discovered.
I could try to quickly summarize the data, but then again, that would likely distort it. Besides, basically, I didn't find-out anything too important, but here's what I found-out:
By the way, it appears as though, the past-several seasons, KU has played two of the toughest-rated schedules in the history of the sport (college game), however, all KU has to show for those two, 'gauntlet' schedules are two, 'Round of 32' losses. Also, the Big 12 has wimped-out in recent Tourneys (although there were some key injuries, iirc), which calls into question the validity of those 'super-tough'-rated schedules.
(moving on....)
Tonight I discovered, based on the UK & KU schedules you provided, plus, based on both teams' upcoming opponents' win-loss records from LAST season**...
1) ...assuming KU will soon face, in Maui, any teams except UNLV and/or Wake F. (who each won less than 20 games last season), all told, KU will, this reg. season, play a total of 8 OOC games + 10 conf games vs teams who won 20+ games, last season. = 18 upcoming games vs. teams who, last season, won 20+ games**.
For KU, 10 of those 18 will be either 'neutral-court' or 'away' games.
and
2) UK's numbers (for the same thing/'study') are (we will be playing) 9 OOC plus 8 reg.-season conf games vs. teams who, last season, won 20+ games. = 17 upcoming games vs. teams who, last season, won 20+ games**.
For UK, nine of those 17 will be either 'neutral-court' or 'away' games.
**The often-cited "20 wins/season" coaching goal is based upon a rather arbitrary number and, of course, definitely, not all 20-plus-wins teams are equal, AND, of course, every team last season is different than it will be this season (some teams, like ours, will be VERY different), so this data is kinda...sketchy -- at best.
Summary:
UK: 17 reg. season games on our schedule will be vs. teams who, last season, won 20+ games, with nine of those 17 being 'neutral-court' or 'away'.
KU: 18 reg. season games on their schedule will be vs. teams who, last season, won 20+ games, with 10 of those 18 being 'neutral-court' or 'away'.
Basically, compared to KU, UK will definitely play a handful of tougher teams this reg. season, but Kansas' reg.-season schedule-strength, overall, perhaps, won't be far behind.
ps,
Last season, the Big XII had five teams who finished with 24+ wins, and the SEC had three teams who finished with 22+ wins.
Like I said NOBODY has a better starting 5 then UK.
G- Ulis 5-9 160 SO. 5 star McD AA as a soph should be much better this year and last year he was really good most of the year.
G- Briscoe 6-3 202 FR. 5 star McD AA and was rated by most as the best PG in HS last year.
G- Murray 6-4 207 FR. 5 star MVP of WUG games and best player on the Canada NT and easily the hottest guard coming into college right now.
F- Poythress 6-8 230 SR. 5 star McD AA and ready for a big SR year were he will play the 4/PF his natural position.
F- Skal 6-11 225 FR. 5 star McD AA ee Cal's teams when he has a player in the mold of AD and Marcus Camby. Reason he is rated #1 in the class and projected as the #1 pick in the draft.
Bench
F- Lee 6-9 224 JR
G- Mulder 6-4 185 JR
G- Hawkins 6-0 190 JR
F- Willis 6-9 220 JR
G- Matthews 6-6 189 FR
C- Humphries 7-0 260 FR
F- Wynyard 6-10 255 FR
G- Ulis 5-9 160 SO. 5 star McD AA as a soph should be much better this year and last year he was really good most of the year.
G- Briscoe 6-3 202 FR. 5 star McD AA and was rated by most as the best PG in HS last year.
G- Murray 6-4 207 FR. 5 star MVP of WUG games and best player on the Canada NT and easily the hottest guard coming into college right now.
F- Poythress 6-8 230 SR. 5 star McD AA and ready for a big SR year were he will play the 4/PF his natural position.
F- Skal 6-11 225 FR. 5 star McD AA ee Cal's teams when he has a player in the mold of AD and Marcus Camby. Reason he is rated #1 in the class and projected as the #1 pick in the draft.
Bench
F- Lee 6-9 224 JR
G- Mulder 6-4 185 JR
G- Hawkins 6-0 190 JR
F- Willis 6-9 220 JR
G- Matthews 6-6 189 FR
C- Humphries 7-0 260 FR
F- Wynyard 6-10 255 FR
