Thought this was a good visualization of the tiers of teams right now. We seem to be at top of the pile after the first three tiers.
CBB Tier Visualization
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Yea, and we are like 3-1 against the top 3 tiers. We are better than several teams in those top 3 tiers. But people need to remember that the schedule for SEC teams right now is a bit unbalanced. Now it will get way more balanced by the end of the season, but for now it isn't. For instance, we have not played a single game against the bottom 5 teams in the SEC, only 2 games against a team 0.500 or worse in conference. Tennessee has played 5 such games, Alabama has played 3, Florida 3, Auburn 4, Ole Miss 4. And many of those games for other teams included games against the bottom 5 teams. As schedules even out, the cream will rise to the top. Alabama and Auburn are better right now in the SEC, the rest just have a better record, and we still have 2 games to play against those 2, so we likely still control our own destiny.
No way Houston should be at the top , and I’m not sold on Tennessee as a top tier team either.
Houston might be a tough matchup for us but there's no way they're the best team in the country. Did I see recently that they have zero Q1 wins?
Illinois is a bit like UK last year, they can score in bunches, they can beat anyone, but I don't think they can string together 6 wins. Tennessee is the opposite, they could hold you to 45 points, but they might only score 46.
Florida may have some residual ranking bias from beating up on their weak non-con schedule. I think they've come back down to earth the last couple weeks. That rating looks a little high.
None of the teams in that "tier" above us would worry me too much, of course we could lose to any of them but on a neutral floor I think UK is favored. Among the non-con teams below us I wouldn't necessarily want to see Saint Johns, partly because they're pretty good and partly because I think the mentor-mentee dynamic between coaches wouldn't necessarily work in our favor. I'd also like to avoid WVU and UConn, although how fun would it be to end their NCAA tournament win streak.
Arizona as the 8th best team is a joke
Yeah this is SHIT! Absolute shit. Not even close to being accurate.
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Believe that is showing the current trendlines as well.
Here is their current rankings….not far off imo….perfect: no but about as good as any computer ranking. AZ 15th makes more sense than 8th. https://barttorvik.com/teamsheets.php
Believe that is showing the current trendlines as well.
Here is their current rankings….not far off imo….perfect: no but about as good as any computer ranking. AZ 15th makes more sense than 8th. https://barttorvik.com/teamsheets.php
Houston is a perfect example of where computer metrics and seeding based on resume differ lol.
I have no idea if they are the 3rd best team but I think it would also be kinda insanity to see them as a 4 seed in any region lol. I can't imagine any 1 seed wants that as a Sweet 16 game. Heck based on that, they might even be favored on a neutral court vs a potential 1 seed lol.
I have no idea if they are the 3rd best team but I think it would also be kinda insanity to see them as a 4 seed in any region lol. I can't imagine any 1 seed wants that as a Sweet 16 game. Heck based on that, they might even be favored on a neutral court vs a potential 1 seed lol.
This all goes to do we want to base teams on "resume" or do we want to base teams on actual skill level.
I get wanting to base on resume. Ultimately wins and losses is what matters. It's what people relate to the most.
That being said, you see these lines come out where the worse seed is actually favored and that sorta makes me question everything. Like if that was the case, why exactly are we making them the worse seed?
Houston hasn't won a Q1 game. But they also only played THREE of those. Of those three losses, two came in OT and the other was a 5 point loss to probably the best team. It's largely based on opportunities. Conversely, I look at the teams that have the most Q1 wins already and they are all SEC teams.
I get wanting to base on resume. Ultimately wins and losses is what matters. It's what people relate to the most.
That being said, you see these lines come out where the worse seed is actually favored and that sorta makes me question everything. Like if that was the case, why exactly are we making them the worse seed?
Houston hasn't won a Q1 game. But they also only played THREE of those. Of those three losses, two came in OT and the other was a 5 point loss to probably the best team. It's largely based on opportunities. Conversely, I look at the teams that have the most Q1 wins already and they are all SEC teams.
I have watched a lot ball this year and Auburn is head and shoulders above the rest of the pack, IMHO.
They would be undefeated if they hadn’t had to play Duke on the road after getting back from Maui. That’s bad scheduling, IMHO. Not sure who made that decision. It was the SEC/ACC challenge, so I doubt Auburn had any choice in the matter.
They would be undefeated if they hadn’t had to play Duke on the road after getting back from Maui. That’s bad scheduling, IMHO. Not sure who made that decision. It was the SEC/ACC challenge, so I doubt Auburn had any choice in the matter.
