Carr is not Healthy

[FtWorthCat]

He is obviously having major back issues. Nelson versus Carr should have been about an even matchup going by their averages. It's not really one-on-one like that, but the statistical discrepancy between those two players decided the game yesterday. I've noticed Carr pushing instead of moving his feet a lot the last couple of games on rebounding/defense. Hope he gets some rest/treatment this week, because we need him at 100%.

 

[Cawood86]

I respect his desire to want to play. He couldn't though. Not sure how serious it is, but Coach Pope might have to sit him some if necessary.

I know Garrison spells Williams but I would start him I. Place of Carr if it comes to that. He is hitting 3s now. Would help stretch the defense.

 

[ManitouDan]

Funny we were all worried about Butler but Carrs injury obviously more serious . He had trouble moving and prob was the difference in this game .. imo both teams are very evenly matched , Alabama has more explosive athletes though . They are very good

 

[chroix]

I’m glad Almonor is at least functional as a backup and at times looks pretty good. Coach is going to have to get real creative if Carr isn’t available.

 

[B.B.H.]

Andrew Carr + back issues = Grant Nelson looks like Super Saiyan Cooper Flagg

 

[Aike]

If Carr can’t go at all, I wouldn’t mind seeing Noah steal some minutes at the 4 in a small ball lineup.

I think he could give us something similar to what Perry is giving us at backup point. Probably get torched on D, but he’ll bang the open 3 and will at least fight for rebounds.

 

[JonathanW]

I’m wondering if he should be given 2 weeks off, no activity other than walking to class.
I did something to my back (muscular) 6/7 years ago and it took me 3 months to recover. I couldn’t sit for more than 30min without a lot of pain. But I’m sure he’s getting a lot better treatment than I did.

 

[cats#1again]

He is obviously having major back issues. Nelson versus Carr should have been about an even matchup going by their averages. It's not really one-on-one like that, but the statistical discrepancy between those two players decided the game yesterday. I've noticed Carr pushing instead of moving his feet a lot the last couple of games on rebounding/defense. Hope he gets some rest/treatment this week, because we need him at 100%.

Smh. Nelson is far more athletic than Carr and would dominate almost anytime he wants to. Alabama is a guard led offense and focuses on that, Nelson is a beast when they ask him to be. The tournament last year wasn't luck. They changed a few things up and went to him more and he was almost unstoppable

 

[Mike_Edwards]

This is when you take a flyer on a development piece at forward and guard. Insurance policy for injuries. Uber athletic and or brute strength preferably with developing skills.

 

[yoshukai]

He is obviously having major back issues. Nelson versus Carr should have been about an even matchup going by their averages. It's not really one-on-one like that, but the statistical discrepancy between those two players decided the game yesterday. I've noticed Carr pushing instead of moving his feet a lot the last couple of games on rebounding/defense. Hope he gets some rest/treatment this week, because we need him at 100%.

I’d say it’s imperative.

 

[G-PIP]

I respect his desire to want to play. He couldn't though. Not sure how serious it is, but Coach Pope might have to sit him some if necessary.

I know Garrison spells Williams but I would start him I. Place of Carr if it comes to that. He is hitting 3s now. Would help stretch the defense.

I agree that I think Garrison some at PF alongside Williams might be the best of a bad situation if Carr can't move any better than he is now. I was thinking about that possibility during the Alabama game and thinking maybe Garrison could defend Nelson better than Carr (currently) or Almonor. I feel sorry for Carr just watching him try to play currently, and watching him in person on the sideline. Carr wasn't the fastest guy to start with, but he simply can't move now. But I absolutely don't think Garrison stretches any defenses, as I don't think any coach will try to cover Garrison beyond the 3pt. line and in fact will giddily encourage him to take as many as he's willing. Although I can see that Garrison is getting more comfortable with that shot and his form is looking ok, to me it appears that he's still at least a season away from being able to stretch any defense. That said, if Carr is basically a statue out there - which is also affecting his perimeter shot - then at least Garrison should give us better defense.

 

[wildcat_nation28]

If Carr can’t go at all, I wouldn’t mind seeing Noah steal some minutes at the 4 in a small ball lineup.

I think he could give us something similar to what Perry is giving us at backup point. Probably get torched on D, but he’ll bang the open 3 and will at least fight for rebounds.

Are you wanting to lose?

 

[white10]

He is obviously having major back issues. Nelson versus Carr should have been about an even matchup going by their averages. It's not really one-on-one like that, but the statistical discrepancy between those two players decided the game yesterday. I've noticed Carr pushing instead of moving his feet a lot the last couple of games on rebounding/defense. Hope he gets some rest/treatment this week, because we need him at 100%.

We missed a healthy Carr, yesterday!

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Are you wanting to lose?

It definitely wouldn't make UK winning any games any easier if that happens.

 

[Aike]

Are you wanting to lose?

Not hardly. He’s already gotten run at the 4 this year. He’s knocked down shots whenever he’s played. If we get very short-handed at the 4, I might use him a minute or two here and there. Prefer that we aren’t short-handed.

 

[phunterd]

I think Noah would follow a similar path to what we’ve seen from Perry. He’d look poor at first with obvious progression the more he plays. He played better than Perry did against the non-con scrubs so perhaps he’d start his improvement path ahead of where Perry did. He’d obviously get picked on defensively but he’d also be good for one to two 3’s. I agree that it’s not ideal but if you were forced to do it for a spurt or two a game it wouldn’t be the end of the world.

 

[YardCat]

A week off and a trip to Osaka Health Spa for a soapy bath and a full body massage should loosen up his back and mind. IMO

 

[EliteBlue]

If Carr can’t go at all, I wouldn’t mind seeing Noah steal some minutes at the 4 in a small ball lineup.

I think he could give us something similar to what Perry is giving us at backup point. Probably get torched on D, but he’ll bang the open 3 and will at least fight for rebounds.

Agree completely. This is the same point I made when Carr was questionable heading to MSU.

Sure, Noah isn’t PF height but playing 4 out can allow him to steal some minutes there if we scheme defensively with a 1-3-1 or 2-3/3-2 while Noah is in.

Basically, Williams and AA start; Garrison backs up both of them as he’s the more versatile of the the 2 between him and AA and can give minutes at the 4 and 5. But if any foul trouble in the top 3 bigs happens then Noah has to get minutes at the 4 and we have to figure out how to hide him defensively when giving up a size disadvantage.

The other alternative is to go small with Butler, Jackson, Oweh, Brea and have Brea play the 4 if bigs get in foul trouble, as he can keep up laterally with 4s but struggles to guard 2s and 3s.

 

[UK90]

I’m wondering if he should be given 2 weeks off, no activity other than walking to class. I did something to my back (muscular) 6/7 years ago and it took me 3 months to recover. I couldn’t sit for more than 30min without a lot of pain. But I’m sure he’s getting a lot better treatment than I did.

I hope it’s not two weeks, but yeah, Pope may have to do something like that. Bad backs need rest. They don’t heal right if you’re constantly re-straining them.

And better to have him miss games now than in March.

 

[3Eye]

They’re pros…you got one season. Pope knows this, I trust his judgement.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

The injury woes continue..

 

[AJG-15]

Carr is importing for his decision making in Pope system. Hurt he could not play defense and offensively was limited. He has a big heart to play hurt!

 

[CatFanInIlliniLand]

Carr being limited was the difference in the game.

 

[JPFisher]

I hope it’s not two weeks, but yeah, Pope may have to do something like that. Bad backs need rest. They don’t heal right if you’re constantly re-straining them.

I need to look this one up. I know conventional medical wisdom is to rest a bad back, but I've read secondary sources that that convention is changing. Basically, as long as it's not a fracture, slipped disc, or something much more serious, the best way to improve a bad back is getting around and moving. Being sedentary hurts more than it helps.

Granted, I'm not a doctor – just a biologist – and I'd need to do a lit review to confirm that the convention is changing.

I just bring this up because it sounds like Pope is making Carr sit out practices when that may be the worst thing for his condition.

Putting a lot of faith in the sports medicine folks that they're up-to-date and aren't suffering from the information lag that's been known to plague medicine at times.