This team is NOT, I repeat the team is NOT going to the NIT. The only way I even see that as a possibility is if they drop several home games of which I do not see happening. We have 14 games left. It's 7 home and 7 road games. Fine you can go ahead and write off KU and USC and Texas A&M. I say at the very least we win 3 to 4 more road games. There is a remote possibility they could lose one at home. However assuming we lose all 7 remaining road games that would put us at 20-11. Even at 20-11 you could still put UK in the tournament. According to my worst case prediction we win 9 more games. We end up 22-9. Noway we go to the NIT. The committee would be totally crazy to not put UK in somewhere. So can we PLEASE stop with the NIT talk?
Can we PLEASE stop with the NIT talk!?
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You would have to be mad , completely insane to think this is an NIT team. At worst an 8-9 seed and at best a 2-3 seed.
Lets see what happens against Ark and Vandy. At Ark and home against Vandy two days later. 0-2 and the NIT talk will be legit.
LOL you must of completely ignored saturday night and yesterday if you don't think there was much NIT talk. Granted most of them were trolls and the mods had to do a lot of clean up. But there were plenty of actual UK fans claiming this another 2013 season which means NIT.
Right now the NIT talk is silly, or at least premature. But lets say the Cats lose both at Ark and home against Vandy. Not unreasonable with little prep time for Vandy. Thats 13-6 with 6 bad losses against non-ncaa tourney teams. Or in other words a resume that would put the Cats on NIT alert.
As an outsider I can't see UK missing the tourney. You would literally have to split your remaining games and go home early in the SEC tourney to be seriously worried. Could it happen....sure, but its highly highly unlikely. All it would take is a 5 game run to be back in talks to get a high seed and doing damage. With your roster loaded with talent, nobody would look forward to playing you, even with an 8+ seed. NIT talk is out of frustration and other fans wanting to pile on while your struggling---happens to everyone in this type of situation----particularly after you handed out some hefty as$ beatings the past few seasons.
Ullis, Murray, briscoe, Poy, Lee, Willis, Skal
Goodwin, Mayes, Harrow, Poy, Wiltjer, Cauley-Stein
How are those teams that different?
Goodwin, Mayes, Harrow, Poy, Wiltjer, Cauley-Stein
How are those teams that different?
Every team we lost to was on the road and to top 100 RPI teams.. THOSE ARE NOT BAD LOSSES! says who you ask? Says the NCAA Selection committee and all the paid experts like Lunardi.
If we can't win an away game then what makes you think that we're good enough for the tourney? They better get their heads outta their a$$... Getting a 10 - 12 point lead and then blowing it to a dumpster team isn't gonna cut it...
This team has an almost professional attitude at times. In other words, some nights they do not bring it. If they do bring it, they can be dangerous.
It's up to this team as to whether the talk stops or not. Another loss at Arkansas will only ramp it up. This team needs to win some road games as they did at Alabama, and take care of business at home. To do that we're going to have to get some contributions from our "bigs". If we don't get that and end up with 10 or more losses I think it's very possible we wouldn't get a bid, especially if we flame out early in the SEC tournament. I hate the thought of it especially since it'd be the 2nd time in 4 years, but until we show we can play consistently better than we have on the road I think it's stupid not to consider the possibility.
Ohio St was neutral. Winning on the road is hard, without question, but you cant spin a road loss to Auburn as anything but a horrible loss.
And there are not many high-quality wins left on the schedule, so the Cats will need to boost their seeding with volume of wins. I think this team is a bit more fragile than folks realize.
And there are not many high-quality wins left on the schedule, so the Cats will need to boost their seeding with volume of wins. I think this team is a bit more fragile than folks realize.
Ulis is an All American Candidate and Harrow was a massive mess
Murray is a top 10 draft pick easily........ All american candidate, Goodwin was a late first round pick...
Briscoe will play in the NBA one day....... Mayes ...is he even playing ball anymore?
Poythress as a senior is better than as a freshman just by experience alone. ...
Lee when he shows up to play (which he hasnt for 2 weeks now) is a 10 pts and 10 rbs type of guy.... WCS as a frosh wasn't
That 2013 team didnt have any wins over teams like Duke or UL..... That 2013 team was like 50-60th in RPI..... this team is in the top 20 RPI.
HUGE DIFFERENCE
Murray is a top 10 draft pick easily........ All american candidate, Goodwin was a late first round pick...
Briscoe will play in the NBA one day....... Mayes ...is he even playing ball anymore?
Poythress as a senior is better than as a freshman just by experience alone. ...
Lee when he shows up to play (which he hasnt for 2 weeks now) is a 10 pts and 10 rbs type of guy.... WCS as a frosh wasn't
That 2013 team didnt have any wins over teams like Duke or UL..... That 2013 team was like 50-60th in RPI..... this team is in the top 20 RPI.
HUGE DIFFERENCE
The NCAA Selection committee does not agree with you Fishersblue
Who knows more about basketball....... the NCAA selection Committee or you?
By the end of the year if Auburn has a lower RPI...... then yeah it might be a bad loss. ... but as of right now its not a bad loss because Auburn is a top 100 RPI team
Who knows more about basketball....... the NCAA selection Committee or you?
By the end of the year if Auburn has a lower RPI...... then yeah it might be a bad loss. ... but as of right now its not a bad loss because Auburn is a top 100 RPI team
According to another thread, Pomeroy and RealtimeRPI predict UK to go 7-7 the rest of the regular season. That would be a 20-11 record and a 10-8 SEC record. Throw in another SEC tourney loss and (if this were to happen), I certainly think NIT is a possibility.
Probable? No, probably not. But, lose Thursday @ Ark and then have a healthy Vandy team coming to Rupp on Saturday that will be tough and next week at this time it may become a likely scenario.
Probable? No, probably not. But, lose Thursday @ Ark and then have a healthy Vandy team coming to Rupp on Saturday that will be tough and next week at this time it may become a likely scenario.
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7-7 ... 21-10 record... ..wins over UL and Duke.............. which will be better wins than any other bubble team would have.......... UK would have to go worse than 7-7 from here on out to miss the tournament. more like 5-9 .
7-7 would put us at 20-11, not 21-10. We need to go 9-4 from here on out in the SEC to get to 12-6 to be 'safe' on Selection Sunday. Anything less than a 22-9 finish then I will be pretty worried. This is all assuming a loss at Kansas obviously. If they somehow pulled that huge upset, then we could go 9-9 in the SEC and still make it.
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You can say whatever you want right now. The possibility exists that we don't make the tourney. Not a likely scenario, but from what I watched through a couple of our losses, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that we just completely jack up the remainder of the season and tank. As I said, not likely, but possible. I'll say as of now, we are looking at a 5/6 seed and round of 16 or 32, depending on the draw.
This....most of us are worried like when the wheels fell off a few years ago. But, I think we have too much season left to pack it in and think we are going there. Next 5 games will give us a lot to consider.
Just keep in mind UK is in the midst of 4 of 5 away from home.
Very very tough stretch for these young men.
Very very tough stretch for these young men.
I mean, anything is possible. But I would be less surprised to make a final four then I would the NIT.
because fishersblue is a rival fan who put blue in the name to try and convince us he's a UK fan
Not a rival fan...lol. Just not a Polyanna. The 2013 team had two first rounders, another kid (Wiltjer) who likely plays at the next level. Poy was the same player. They didnt have Ullis, but talent wise not that different.
The 2010-2011 team was 14-4 at this point in January. I heard the same kind of NIT talk from many fans. That team finished the regular season at 22-8, 10-6 in conference play and won 12 of their last 14 games. Two completely different style teams and I'm not comparing the two BUT I don't see how that kind of turnaround isn't possible with this team. The parts are there they just have to use them correctly.
So you are going to be a moron and go by what players did after that year like it had some bearing on the 2012-13 season?
What the flying monkey crap does Wiltjer of these past two years have to do with how he played at UK? Which even a non flying monkey can see there is a massive difference between him then and now. Also what does WCS being a lottery pick later on have to do with how he played as a freshman?
2nd of all, Poythress is by far a better ball handler and passer than he was as a freshman. So he is a better player..... just in area's you are too ignorant to pay attention to.
What the flying monkey crap does Wiltjer of these past two years have to do with how he played at UK? Which even a non flying monkey can see there is a massive difference between him then and now. Also what does WCS being a lottery pick later on have to do with how he played as a freshman?
2nd of all, Poythress is by far a better ball handler and passer than he was as a freshman. So he is a better player..... just in area's you are too ignorant to pay attention to.
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Wildcat in SL you obviously are one of those fans who wont grow up and be reasonable. Its not controversial or mean to compare those teams. We will see how it turns out. Some fans are either UK apologists or gloom and doomers. Be an adult and just be reasonable.
Right now this team as constructed has only one first round pick. Talent wise and skill wise I dont see much of a difference.
Is UK an nit team today? Of course not. A loss at ARK means KY is in 8-9 seed category at the moment. Then I think it could be a battle to stay off the bubble. Not controversial..,perfectly reasonable.
Right now this team as constructed has only one first round pick. Talent wise and skill wise I dont see much of a difference.
Is UK an nit team today? Of course not. A loss at ARK means KY is in 8-9 seed category at the moment. Then I think it could be a battle to stay off the bubble. Not controversial..,perfectly reasonable.
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I think thats a fair comparison. I remember that team losing a lot of close games, OT games and 2-3 pt losses. But I felt they were really close heading into the SEC tourney. The hope is this team is similar. That team had a stronger front court skill-wise with Jones and Harrellson but similar talent in the backcourt.
I think thats a fair comparison. I remember that team losing a lot of close games, OT games and 2-3 pt losses. But I felt they were really close heading into the SEC tourney. The hope is this team is similar. That team had a stronger front court skill-wise with Jones and Harrellson but similar talent in the backcourt.
This post actually makes me feel better about this year's team. Seriously, I'm as frustrated as anyone, but when you compare the 2 teams, I would take just about every player this year over that year. It would be nice to have Wiltjer for his outside shooting but his D isn't much, if any, better than Willis.
Jrpross,
Yep I would take this team as well. Just based on guard play. But sometimes the lack of imside presence (without Noel) and struggling to score remind me of this years team at times.
Though I remember feeling decent about that team after beating MO on gameday. But they never could put it together.
Yep I would take this team as well. Just based on guard play. But sometimes the lack of imside presence (without Noel) and struggling to score remind me of this years team at times.
Though I remember feeling decent about that team after beating MO on gameday. But they never could put it together.
