Can Jamal Murray be that guy in the NBA?
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It would be hard to predict that he will. He doesn't have sure fire superstar written all over him.
A safe bet would be quality starter/6th man.
But there is no measure for a player's heart and will to improve. He certainly could exceed expectations, like a Steph Curry has done.
A safe bet would be quality starter/6th man.
But there is no measure for a player's heart and will to improve. He certainly could exceed expectations, like a Steph Curry has done.
He could be DeMar DeRozan or James Harden. Would you consider them "that guy?"
In the right situation, he could absolutely be the #1 option on a team. Does that mean it will end up being an elite team? Not necessarily. James Harden has top 5 stats, for instance, but he's a vastly overrated player.
In the right situation, he could absolutely be the #1 option on a team. Does that mean it will end up being an elite team? Not necessarily. James Harden has top 5 stats, for instance, but he's a vastly overrated player.
Disagree. I'd absolutely project Jamal Murray over Brandon Knight if you compare where they were after being OAD. Murray is bigger, a better rebounder and a slightly better athlete. He can score in more ways than Knight as well. And I'm a huge Brandon Knight fan.
Karl Townes says hello.
Murray absolutely has the tools to be either the #1 or #1A option on an NBA team. Did somebody really say he might be a 6th man? Come on, guy is a bonafide starter and probable All-Star.
Are you guys watching Booker at all? He's already becoming one of the best shooters (3 point) in the league and he's developing as a guy who can run the point in a pinch. He's a guy you might see in more than 1 NBA ASG
Murray is an NBA team's dream player. He's only going to get better and he can score at will.
I was thinking that literally just this morning. It'd be awesome if they got Murray in the first or Ulis if he dropped to te 2nd. Ulis is lobbing 2-3 easy alley oops to Lee per game. He should be able to give Wiggins about a half dozen before halftime
I didn't mention Brandon Knight.
Since you did, Brandon Knight is a great example of a guy who has outworked his abilities.
I would call him a solid starter, and someone capable of potentially making an all star game.
If Murray projected as a superstar, he would be talked about in the top 2-3 picks of this weak draft.
That's not to say he can't get there. Just like Steph Curry got there and exceeded expectations. I'm only talking about reasonable projections.
A solid starter is no insult. First man coming off the bench to fill it up isn't an insult either.
Certain skills are so rare that teams grab them ASAP.WCS= defense, Drummond=rebounding,. Murray can shoot and this is the rarest skill ( now that Curry is exhibit A) and it's more highly valued than ever.He will be drafted high (top 8) and by a team like Sacramento or Denver who badly needs shooters.
I'm not trying to under sell him. I obviously love to have UK guys blow up at the next level.
It's just that there are only a handful of those elite, superstar level players.
Can he potentially make it there? Yes.
I'll be honest. I thought it was going to take much longer for Towns to do well. Dude has straight blown up the ROY conversation.
He's been awesome. I thought he might be this good in another year, but this was fast.
People forget how frustrating KAT was early on. He picked up two fouls early every game. I remember numerous threads saying he needed to be on second platoon just because of foul trouble. Oakafor was clear cut number one pick. Here comes KAT and he got better and better
Now KAT is tearing it up in the nba. He is putting up veteran numbers and double doubles.
Now KAT is tearing it up in the nba. He is putting up veteran numbers and double doubles.
It's early yet, so it's fine to be optimistic, but that's a big statement you're making there. He'll have to improve his defense in a big way to sniff the stratosphere that Wall currently occupies.
In the month of February, no one in the country has scored more points than Jamal Murray. He has 178 total points for an average of 25.4 points per game.
Murray is also leading the nation in three-point field goals made in February, connecting on over four per game for a total of 30. He is shooting 49.2 percent from the field and 46.9 percent from outside.
Peaking at the right time. Actually for both our guards
Murray is also leading the nation in three-point field goals made in February, connecting on over four per game for a total of 30. He is shooting 49.2 percent from the field and 46.9 percent from outside.
Peaking at the right time. Actually for both our guards
Murray has Brandon Roy potential, he can be the Brandon Roy that never was, however his size concerns me a tiny tiny bit, I know that sounds crazy, but coaches are so smart, and they can game-plan for stuff like that... There are guys who are 6-7 and 6-8 that can shoot just as good and better than Murray right now...
However saying all that I think he will be an NBA All star at some point in his career... The guy just has that it factor
However saying all that I think he will be an NBA All star at some point in his career... The guy just has that it factor
He has elevation, but there's a difference dunking on SEC opponents, and trying to dunk on Hassan Whiteside, or Andre Drummond, or Karl Towns, or Nerlens Noel, or DeAndre Jordan, or... Well you get the idea...
Murray will be really good. But he lacks the elite jumping ability to be "that guy". Plus he will struggle on D.
James Harden isnt a bad comparison actually in terms of lack of elite leaping ability.
James Harden isnt a bad comparison actually in terms of lack of elite leaping ability.
Yes, you need elite jumping ability to be "that guy", signed Steph Curry.
There aren't many. In fact I'm not sure if that statement is accurate at all. There is this misconception that SGs are a dime a dozen in the NBA. But who are the truly great PGs currently in the NBA? Klay Thompson, James Harden..... That's not a very long list. Maybe I'm leaving someone out. The list of top NBA SGs includes JJ Redick, Aaron Afflalo, JR Smith, Kris Middleton. No reason to believe Jamal Murray couldn't be near the top of that list.
I think he'll be more than fine in the NBA, but he won't be a point, unless he has ball skills we aren't seeing. That places him as a smaller SG. Teams don't really build around a SG like they used to, so I think seeing him as a #1 option on a team is unlikely. I do see him as a top ten SG in the NBA after some time, and can average 15-20 points as a second option guy. He does have all-star potential, but franchise guy? I'll have to see more ball skills and defense.
None of that is an insult. I love Murray and it is an extreme accomplishment to play one minute in the NBA, much less the decade career I think he will have.
None of that is an insult. I love Murray and it is an extreme accomplishment to play one minute in the NBA, much less the decade career I think he will have.
He played the point at a high level in the PanAms... He can do it but we have Ulis....
Yeah, but I've seen more than a few fumbled drives and weird dribbles this year... I still think his ball skills have a way to go before he'll play point in the NBA.
This is what I see. He could be the focal point of a non-contending team, or he could be the number 2 guy on a contender.
For your team to have a great shot to win a championship with a wing as your #1 star (as opposed to a big), I feel like he has to be one of the best 2-3 players in the NBA - Durant, Lebron, Jordan, Kobe, etc
Anything short of that, and I believe you have to center it around a big in the league. There have been so many guys like Melo, Drexler, Alex English, who are nasty scorers and perennial all-stars but unless they're in that demigod territory, just don't win as the best player on the team.
Being able to score and being efficient at scoring are two different things. Wiggins and Lavine both are below average in TS%, assist less than average, and turn it over about average. They are young, at times electrifying talents, but they still have a long way to go before they are good NBA players.
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