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Calipari's offensive sets vs. Vandy (and other notes)

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IMO, the main theme of this game was that this was one of the first games UK played this year against a team that ran man-to-man defense for the entire game against Kentucky. And it showed. Kentucky struggled somewhat against Alabama's man to man, as well. Kentucky missed a lot of easy shots that will fall in later games when the team learns to expect that certain looks will be there. Still, there was no shortage of intrigue from the UK bench against Vandy. Calipari had several points of emphasis that came through loud and clear. A few notes…

(1) Clutch: down the stretch Kentucky scored or went to the line on 12 of its final 15 possessions, including 7 of the last 8. Sometimes, you do not demoralize a team by blowing them out, but by matching their best punches blow for blow. To rub salt in the wound, UK did not use an ounce of complexity down the stretch, but simply won by improvising and overpowering Vandy. Take Andrew's incredible drive: that was a simple high post screen that he took, saw a gap, and went strong.

(2) An astonishing 15 times, Kentucky forced the ball into the post area, resulting in a turnover or a badly missed shot, before ever setting up the offense. Vandy anticipated UK's post entry game very well and should be commended. But not too much: Calipari's game plan coming out of the gate was to force the issue very early in each possession on half of UK's possessions and to stick with this ratio come hell or high water. Even when we were turning the ball over, he kept calling similar plays until UK got it right (which they never did). Cal seemed okay with Vandy calling the right game plan; he wanted UK to execute the game plan regardless of what Vandy was doing. Andrew, in particular, forced the issue on numerous occasions, but only because he was following orders.

(3) Because UK made so many mistakes early in the possession, it might be tempting to conclude that UK was inefficient on offense. They weren't. UK scored or went to the free throw line on 21/40 of their true half court possessions, which is almost the exact same percentage obtained at Alabama. Again, early mistakes, UK's stubbornness, and Vandy's familiarity with UK's game plan made things look a lot worse than they were.

(4) Calipari's game plan in the half-court offense went down like this:

--About 50% of the plays were variations of curls, with guards starting out low and coming around anywhere from 1-3 screens. These plays involved lots of flashes, fakes, and an amazingly large number of resets. You could even hear Calipari yell out "do it again" several times when the first effort at a play did not work.

--About 15% of the time, Calipari called for a double down screen, with two post players setting a pick for a curling wing. Booker, Aaron, Hawkins, and Lyles were the recipients.

--About 10% of the time, Calipari called a backdoor play for Lyles. A clear trend is emerging for Calipari to call Lyles's name against a man-to-man defense. Lyles needs to shoot earlier in his possessions or pass back out, IMO. He and a few others got caught in no man's land tonight.

--On two straight plays, Calipari ran a vintage DDMO and it worked like a charm. It was at the 6:11 mark in the first half, involved Ulis, Booker, and Lyles, and it darn near made me salivate, even though both plays lasted just a few seconds each. Calipari saw that it worked and promptly put it in his back pocket, using it only once more for the rest of the game. Again, he was very committed to his game plan of forcing the issue early, even when it was not working.

--About 15% of the plays were confusing as heck, with neither players, coaches, or myself knowing exactly what was happening. There were players bumping into each other, three man weaves that went nowhere, and most of the time, Vandy generally knew exactly what we were going to run.

--About 5-10% of the plays entailed two posts lining the key on either side, with guards circling the floor around them. It was a beautiful experiment that worked when it was used.

(5) Vandy is to be commended, but at least 12 of their points came off of poor turnovers associated with 4/5 of our players being caught on the baseline and nobody back to help defend. In each case, these turnovers came from forcing the issue into the post or missing bad shots. I'm not saying that Cal was sandbagging, but there was a lot he could have done to make this win more comfortable that he did not do, including going back to the DDMO or abandoning the early post feed. Clearly, he wants his team to learn how to strike quickly on offense.

(6) On second viewing, Vandy was both a very good ball handling team and a team that did a lot of grabbing on defense. That's not an indictment. They did what they had to do and the refs let them do it. They are a good team, period. It's just that I saw more fouls on the replay than I did in real time, and it usually runs the opposite way for me on replays. Calipari said it best (and I'm paraphrasing): "Kentucky will always face teams that play out of their heads against us, because they HAVE to. It's the only way they can win." So give Vandy all the credit to which they are entitled.

(7) Calipari is perhaps the best out of bounds play-caller I've ever seen. UK was 1/2 tonight, with the miss being a wide open Lyles jumper he usually makes. His efficiency in this department is generally stellar.

(8) Underrated: Booker's first step, going both left and right. Do yourself a favor and watch the replays; it is a thing of beauty. He is a complete player.

(9) Another trend: It is becoming clear that Calipari loves having his wings start out down low and even stay there for much of a possession. What a luxury it is to have our bigs who can handle the ball well enough to pull this off.

(10) Because of the game plan, Aaron works a lot harder against man-to-man defenses than he does against a zone. I thought he was an MVP tonight.

(11) Our bigs are much further along in setting screens (both ball screens and off the ball screens) than our guards.




This post was edited on 1/21 3:13 AM by pascat
 
As usual, a great game breakdown by you and I really enjoy reading it. Apparently, you have some coaching experience. Thanks
 
Great post Pascat. Brilliant as usual, bravo sir.

I got the feeling Cal was being stubborn and trying to make a point with his gameplan on offense as well. It was pretty obvious that when UK wanted to, they could do whatever they wanted and score on Vandy. Cal kept on with that pound it down low strategy for most of the game come hell or high water as you said, and while it could have cost us, it did not. I never felt UK was in danger of losing this one...some may disagree, but I was just bored with the game by the end, like UK's players it appeared.

Our D certainly gave up 3-4 wide open 3's in transition it seems, with THE MASK making all 3 of his on wide open plays. When UK manned up and guarded, once again...Vandy was pretty helpless other than their inside guy making some tough shots. He can play.

Back to our offense though, and struggling with man to man. Don't we see man to man D from better players (aka the other platoon) in practice each week? I know it is different in a real game vs. practice....but still. I agree the shots will start falling inside the more we see it, but I still expect most teams to play primarily zone against UK. The good news is our 3 point shooting did not cool down at all, hitting 4/6. Very efficient.
 
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:
Great post Pascat. Brilliant as usual, bravo sir.

I got the feeling Cal was being stubborn and trying to make a point with his gameplan on offense as well. It was pretty obvious that when UK wanted to, they could do whatever they wanted and score on Vandy. Cal kept on with that pound it down low strategy for most of the game come hell or high water as you said, and while it could have cost us, it did not. I never felt UK was in danger of losing this one...some may disagree, but I was just bored with the game by the end, like UK's players it appeared.

Our D certainly gave up 3-4 wide open 3's in transition it seems, with THE MASK making all 3 of his on wide open plays. When UK manned up and guarded, once again...Vandy was pretty helpless other than their inside guy making some tough shots. He can play.

Back to our offense though, and struggling with man to man. Don't we see man to man D from better players (aka the other platoon) in practice each week? I know it is different in a real game vs. practice....but still. I agree the shots will start falling inside the more we see it, but I still expect most teams to play primarily zone against UK. The good news is our 3 point shooting did not cool down at all, hitting 4/6. Very efficient.
Thanks for the kind words. I don't pretend to know why, other than Calipari has probably had to devote an incredible amount of time in practice to the multitude of zone defenses that teams have thrown (and will throw) at them and he has not been able to practice the man-to-man as much as he would like. But as I said, I don't really think we struggled all that much against the man-to-man, per se, but struggled when we tried to force the pass into the post, even when the post players were not in optimal positions. When we set up the offense, we averaged over one point per possession, just like we did against Alabama's zone.

Years ago, I remember an interview Calipari gave on the Jerry Tarkanian show in which he said that running a zone defense early in the year is kind of a gimmick that comes back to bite you later in the year, when all teams should be able to play an honest man-to-man. Zone-only teams rarely win championships, he maintained. But this has certainly not stopped teams from trying to beat UK with a zone.
 
Pascat, this is absolutely the most positive and honest take on last night's game. Your breakdown encourages me to understand and recognize that Cal is teaching and sometimes you just have to drill until it's done right. I didn't enjoy it but I have to say I only had moderate angst knowing that Vandy was capable of dropping a couple of closing threes on us.

Please keep up the good work and thanks for writing in a style that I can comprehend the complexities of this game.
 
Tremendous work as always.

I was confused why he didn't go back to that horns set either. It worked on that beautiful backdoor early in the game, but I'm not sure they went to it again.

IMO Cal got way too enamored with Dakari last night. He saw that big lumbering seven-footer and was absolutely convinced Dakari could control that game.

There are times when Cal gets too stodgy with trying to shoehorn the ball inside. I still have nightmares of Baylor last year, where we threw it in probably 45 times even when things started to fall apart.

Some of that last night was on Dakari, but IMO we should've gone another direction when it was clear that we couldn't put the ball in the basket down there.
 
I agree that Cal was determined to get the ball in the post in this game. He said in the pregame that they were an inside out team. At the end to the day this team is best suited with the twins or Ulis driving to create easy lobs or looks for the big guys, I just don't see our big guys winning the games by posting up. Maybe Towns will be able to do it in 5 years.

My other question is how is it possible for our big guys to get blocked so much, there is no way Dakari goes against any better players in games than he does in practice. I assume Dakari does not get blocked everytime by Towns or Willie or he would not see much time in games. It just makes no sense that these guys are this bad in the post.
 
Excellent thread..

Strength and speed. Some guys have it and some do not. Julius Randle had it and right now, DJ and KAT are still working on it. Upper body strength allows you to take it up strong and quick before the foul happens. Watch Okafor. Great speed and strength but not a huge guy. UK's inside players have not developed the upper body strength and speed to make those plays happen, yet. Would like to see them get stronger in this area.
 
Originally posted by bssparks:

I agree that Cal was determined to get the ball in the post in this game. He said in the pregame that they were an inside out team. At the end to the day this team is best suited with the twins or Ulis driving to create easy lobs or looks for the big guys, I just don't see our big guys winning the games by posting up. Maybe Towns will be able to do it in 5 years.
Being an inside out team doesn't mean the big guys have to win the game posting up. You can play inside out and still play read and react. The twins and Ulis can just as easily drive the ball and throw lobs playing inside out.

Up until last night the bigs were drawing double/triple teams and kicking the ball out. This results in an open jump shot, and it gets the defense off balance, chasing and rotating to close out on the shooter, which opens up driving lanes for the twins and Ulis to attack and create.
 
I was surprised Stallings didn't throw his typical 1-3-1 at us that's caused UK problems for years. Although he usually saves it for when they have us in Nashville. So maybe that trend will continue. But I thought with the game being in reach, we may see it.
 
Of course hindsight is 20/20, but I though that last night's game was tailor made for a DDMO, with the bigs establishing position much lower and waiting for the ball to eventually bounce their way.

But again, last night was a teaching game more than anything else. Calipari wants his bigs to learn how to establish post position very quickly and to have guards feed them very quickly. Vandy, playing a straight up man-to-man, was able to push our bigs about 2 feet out past their comfort area. To be sure, they accomplished this with a lot of pushing and grabbing, but they did a fine job.

Regarding Dakari, it is not difficult to block a person's shot when they turn right into you and shoot it, especially when the turn is into the key and not toward the backboard. Dakari's post moves work best when he also has the option to pass the ball somewhere. Last night, once the ball came into the post, there was a lot of standing around on the perimeter, which allows the defense to sell out down low. It was as if the game plan to feed the post at all costs had the effect of halting movement once the ball came inside.
 
Originally posted by pascat:
Of course hindsight is 20/20, but I though that last night's game was tailor made for a DDMO, with the bigs establishing position much lower and waiting for the ball to eventually bounce their way.

But again, last night was a teaching game more than anything else. Calipari wants his bigs to learn how to establish post position very quickly and to have guards feed them very quickly. Vandy, playing a straight up man-to-man, was able to push our bigs about 2 feet out past their comfort area. To be sure, they accomplished this with a lot of pushing and grabbing, but they did a fine job.

Regarding Dakari, it is not difficult to block a person's shot when they turn right into you and shoot it, especially when the turn is into the key and not toward the backboard. Dakari's post moves work best when he also has the option to pass the ball somewhere. Last night, once the ball came into the post, there was a lot of standing around on the perimeter, which allows the defense to sell out down low. It was as if the game plan to feed the post at all costs had the effect of halting movement once the ball came inside.
Spot on and a great analysis of Cal's gameplan.

I agree that Cal was using this opportunity to play against a man-to-man defense to get Dakari and to a lesser extent Karl, extra work on Post scoring. Cal is using the SEC schedule to work on all of our deficiencies. Vandy's talented big man provided Cal the opportunity to test Dakari and Karl on their Post moves. Although, they played poorly, Cal will use this game as an teaching tool for his Bigs.

If our fans would just look at what is happening each game and how opposing coaches play us, they would see how Cal uses each game as a way to work on attacking each team with what will make us better come March.
 
Interesting but not buying that it was all by design. I find it difficult to believe we deliberately planned to run offense in such a way that would possibly result in a loss sans two huge threes by Aaron Harrison. If it was deliberate it was stupid to stick with it.

I mean, really, Cal saw a play that worked and only used it once the rest of the game. We get it that you know Xs and Os but I don't believe you're a mind reader.



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This post was edited on 1/21 1:37 PM by no_neutrality
 
Originally posted by no_neutrality:

Interesting but not buying that it was all by design. I find it difficult to believe we deliberately planned to run offense in such a way that would possibly result in a loss sans two huge threes by Aaron Harrison. If it was deliberate it was stupid to stick with it.

I mean, really, Cal saw a play that worked and only used it once the rest of the game. We get it that you know Xs and Os but I don't believe you're a mind reader.



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This post was edited on 1/21 1:37 PM by no_neutrality
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Contrary to no neutrality, my guess is Cal wouldn't necessarily freak at a loss. He's playing for March. He's 18-3 there at UK, by the way. I'm not saying he'd ever "lose on purpose" to prove a point. I know how competitive he is, and so naturally he wants to win every game. I know he's said something like "it would be cool to go undefeated since no one has done it in 40 years." But I think he's got an idea of the right way to do things, the right way to instill those things, all of it is geared towards tournament success, and he's not going to cut corners...
 
I really am enjoying these breakdowns and the time and effort you've put into making these threads, many thanks pascat !

Your analysis focused mainly on our offense, I would just add these thoughts (primarily from a defensive standpoint)

1) WCS played with great intensity and effort all night defensively. He was all over the place. He didn't get much in the way of scoring but more than made up for it (in my opinion) on the defensive end.

2) Overall the defense was solid. Vandy made some really nice plays at opportune times to keep it from getting out of hand. That layup where the Vandy big man got loose and used the rim to protect his shot was one example that I just haven't seen Vandy make this year. The opportune 3 pointers made in transition were noticeable breakdowns on our defense....

3) Vandy made some plays against our defense that other teams simply haven't done (most of the time)

The step back three from the big guy (Jones) was unexpected.
The drive in the second half when WCS didn't fully commit to stopping the drive, and ended up as a layup, was another
Vandy did a pretty good job of shooting the 3 pointers, but combined with the slightly lower FG% at shooting 2's, and the slightly higher FG% shooting threes, they ended up marginally lower FG% than what they averaged on the year. If we hadn't played good defense last night, it could've been a different story.

By and large, throughout the game thread, I mentioned how it looked more and more like we were simply going to have to fight through it, play solid defense the whole game, and make enough shots/create enough offense to win the game, and we did.

VERY proud of our guys for showing the mental toughness to win (again)

To be the 345th youngest team in the country, we've shown an awful lot of patience and poise when we've needed to.
 
Originally posted by no_neutrality:

Interesting but not buying that it was all by design. I find it difficult to believe we deliberately planned to run offense in such a way that would possibly result in a loss sans two huge threes by Aaron Harrison. If it was deliberate it was stupid to stick with it.

I mean, really, Cal saw a play that worked and only used it once the rest of the game. We get it that you know Xs and Os but I don't believe you're a mind reader.
Yeah, and Stallings is better than Cal at x's and o's.

Far Cal.

Seriously, dude. Get a life and quit trolling.
This post was edited on 1/21 5:56 PM by Prime MF
 
Good stuff, runt#69.

What I saw on tape last night led me to many of the same conclusions you came to. Also,

(1) I thought that even last night, Kentucky was about 15-20 points better than Vandy. Vandy stayed in the game because of UK's bad plays and Vandy getting out in transition and capitalizing. They made their shots and that matters, but I never thought that Vandy was going to win.

(2) I was very impressed with Vandy's spacing on offense. There was a lot of movement and that included guys with the ball dribbling with great courage.

(3) When Kentucky elected to lock down on defense, Vandy almost never scored. It really is about whether or not this team wants to try. When they do, it's scary. UK took several plays off on defense last night.
 
UK didn't lock down on LeChance until Cal ( he was mich'ed) pointed out during a time out what was wrong with our switching defense out front. He, not by name, told our team "they have the best shooter on the floor". Then we adjusted and the game was ours.
Hope our guys learned moving forward. Excellent coaching speak by Cal.
 
Pascat you are becoming one of my favs on this board


And to the poster that said Cal,doesn't run offensive sets, your wrong. He has has been saying this from his memphis days. Cal has certain sets against different defenses. You have multiple options depending on what the defense gives you

Now I agree we very seldom run " plays". But he has " sets" that's have different options
 
Originally posted by Mojocat:
Contrary to no neutrality, my guess is Cal wouldn't necessarily freak at a loss. He's playing for March.
Agreed. Cal is playing for March.

Doing so won't win praise from the "no neutralitys" of the world, ,but it will give us a better chance to win it all in the Big Dance.

I'm with Cal on this one.
 
Originally posted by W2R:
Pascat you are becoming one of my favs on this board


And to the poster that said Cal,doesn't run offensive sets, your wrong. He has has been saying this from his memphis days. Cal has certain sets against different defenses. You have multiple options depending on what the defense gives you

Now I agree we very seldom run " plays". But he has " sets" that's have different options
I certainly agree and he does plays a lot during tournament time.
 
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