Calipari Enlists Team Managers To Beat Up on Skal

[Smashcat]

Michael Carvell ‏@Carvell_AJC 22m22 minutes ago
Kentucky’s John Calipari says Skal Labissiere “painful to watch sometimes,” enlists managers to beat him up http://trib.al/1ZPX5BB

 

[WindyCityWildcat]

 

[WildMoon]

Windy that's hilarious!

 

[SmyrnaCatFan]

Walsh is fouling the crap out of him, no call. Team defense = mug-a-cat.

 

[jarms24]

Won't matter. The refs let him get hacked to death anyways. They've abandoned the points of emphasis already.

 

[Smashcat]

The refs let him get hacked to death anyways.
Yep.

 

[Bkocats]

The refs let him get hacked to death anyways.
Yep.

all the more reason for him to learn to hold onto the ball when that happens, and play through it

 

[Notorious23]

now that is a funny gif

 

[westerncat]

Rough him up and maybe he will start fighting back.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Could you imagine freshman Skal versus freshman Boogie?

 

[uk78]

Looks like it is pretty much all ball on that video.

 

[dckala2]

skal never gets any benefit of the doubt. it's comedy too how ALL of the pictures from the ucla game are like the one with welsh.

then the eku gif above was just ridiculous. The calls against skal remind me a lot of dakari. traveling, getting hacked but no whistle...

 

[Smashcat]

skal never gets any benefit of the doubt. it's comedy too how ALL of the pictures from the ucla game are like the one with welsh.

then the eku gif above was just ridiculous. The calls against skal remind me a lot of dakari. traveling, getting hacked but no whistle...

Dakari was always mugged and the whistle was rarely blown.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

That goat is SAVAGE

 

[kybassfan]

That goat is SAVAGE

Spearing. Unsportsman like. Dead ball. Fifteen yards. Eject the goat. Has to set out first half next game.

 

[Mojocat]

Too easily traced. He's usually more savvy than that. And now it's on Twitter! Amateur....

 

[blubo]

Won't matter. The refs let him get hacked to death anyways. They've abandoned the points of emphasis already.

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i thought that probably by conference play the foul calling would revert back to same ol' same ol,' and after watching the dayton/vu game wed nite it looks more and more like i'm right.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Won't matter. The refs let him get hacked to death anyways. They've abandoned the points of emphasis already.

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Come on now, the officials are not Skals issue at all. Actually, this play looks like a helluva play to me. I don't see any foul here at all. Looks like he reaches in and gets his hand on top of the ball, Skal pulls it away, and EKU kid makes a great defensive play to jump and knock it out of his hands. Great defensive play if you ask me. There is no such thing as a reach in foul. That's a long standing myth that there is a foul for reaching in because there isn't. Same thing with "Over the Back" fouls. There is no such thing as "over the back" and yet how many times do fans scream and holler that over and over at all levels of basketball. Skals issue is within himself, not the officials.

 

[jedwar]

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Come on now, the officials are not Skals issue at all. Actually, this play looks like a helluva play to me. I don't see any foul here at all. Looks like he reaches in and gets his hand on top of the ball, Skal pulls it away, and EKU kid makes a great defensive play to jump and knock it out of his hands. Great defensive play if you ask me. There is no such thing as a reach in foul. That's a long standing myth that there is a foul for reaching in because there isn't. Same thing with "Over the Back" fouls. There is no such thing as "over the back" and yet how many times do fans scream and holler that over and over at all levels of basketball. Skals issue is within himself, not the officials.

Sorry sir. I can't agree with you here. I see an arm rake. EKU player grabs and rakes Skals arm. This is a foul. Easily. And over the back most certainly does exist. I see it. If a player established position you can't go over his back; you can rise above and get the ball, but laying on the guys back once position is established is a foul. Pushing him with the body, knocking him out of position is a foul. I believe it's actually in the rule book?


Over the Back - This foul is called when rebounding. If one player has position, the other player is not allowed to jump up over their back to try and get the ball. This is called on both offensive and defensive players.

 

[Chuckinden]

Sorry sir. I can't agree with you here. I see an arm rake. EKU player grabs and rakes Skals arm. This is a foul. Easily. And over the back most certainly does exist. I see it. If a player established position you can't go over his back; you can rise above and get the ball, but laying on the guys back once position is established is a foul. Pushing him with the body, knocking him out of position is a foul. I believe it's actually in the rule book?


Over the Back - This foul is called when rebounding. If one player has position, the other player is not allowed to jump up over their back to try and get the ball. This is called on both offensive and defensive players.

Can't agree with any of that.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Sorry sir. I can't agree with you here. I see an arm rake. EKU player grabs and rakes Skals arm. This is a foul. Easily. And over the back most certainly does exist. I see it. If a player established position you can't go over his back; you can rise above and get the ball, but laying on the guys back once position is established is a foul. Pushing him with the body, knocking him out of position is a foul. I believe it's actually in the rule book?


Over the Back - This foul is called when rebounding. If one player has position, the other player is not allowed to jump up over their back to try and get the ball. This is called on both offensive and defensive players.

OK, if you say so. I'm not going to argue with you but over the back does NOT exist. There is no such thing as "over the back" and you do not see it all the time. You may see a push foul but not a "over the back" foul. Ask anybody who officiates basketball and they will tell you the same thing. It does not exist in the rulebook.

 

[jarms24]

Umm, that was a foul or 3. Even if you want to discount the obvious arm rakes, Skal traveled twice and may have even double dribbled. All kinds of ref fail in that vine.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Sorry sir. I can't agree with you here. I see an arm rake. EKU player grabs and rakes Skals arm. This is a foul. Easily. And over the back most certainly does exist. I see it. If a player established position you can't go over his back; you can rise above and get the ball, but laying on the guys back once position is established is a foul. Pushing him with the body, knocking him out of position is a foul. I believe it's actually in the rulebook.


Over the Back - This foul is called when rebounding. If one player has position, the other player is not allowed to jump up over their back to try and get the ball. This is called on both offensive and defensive players.

You believe it's actually in the rulebook? No, its not.

You are correct about not being allowed to push other players. That is simply a push foul but laying on a guys back once position is "established" is not a foul. The rulebook does not differentiate when position is established. As long as you do not push or displace the other player, you can make contact and go up and over the other player to get the ball. If you displace the other player from his position, then it is a pushing foul, not an over the back foul. It does not exist.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

OK, if you say so. I'm not going to argue with you but over the back does NOT exist. There is no such thing as "over the back" and you do not see it all the time. You may see a push foul but not a "over the back" foul. Ask anybody who officiates basketball and they will tell you the same thing. It does not exist in the rulebook.

Ok. I'll give you that. There is no actual over the back in the rule book. I'll take your word on it seeing as how I'm not an expert on the rule book. And I'm not arguing for the sake of, and surely not trying to be a douche or anything. Let's call it a pushing foul. Any time a player establishes position on a missed shot, another player can't displace him with his body or hands; result is a pushing foul - commonly called over the back - even by professional commentators at times. However, you may be right on the actual term "over the back" not being real foul. Referee will signal a pushing foul in this instance.

And I stand firm on my 'opinion' that Skal was fouled on bag strip. I see a lot of arm take on that play with my eyes (directed to Chuckinden). No worries though, it's just my opinion, I'm no ref for sure.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Umm, that was a foul or 3. Even if you want to discount the obvious arm rakes, Skal traveled twice and may have even double dribbled. All kinds of ref fail in that vine.

If the EKU player gets his hand on the ball and Skal then pulls it away, causing the EKU player to rake his arm, that is not a foul. Plus, you can't say for sure that he takes his arm. The camera angle just doesn't show that. That is just assumption but even if he did, the rake was caused by Skal's action, thus initiating the contact. You may not agree with that but that's how the officials are trained.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

^^posted the above before I am saw your next response. I think we are in agreement there.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

If the EKU player gets his hand on the ball and Skal then pulls it away, causing the EKU player to rake his arm, that is not a foul. Plus, you can't say for sure that he takes his arm. The camera angle just doesn't show that. That is just assumption but even if he did, the rake was caused by Skal's action, thus initiating the contact. You may not agree with that but that's how the officials are trained.

Well then I don't agree. But, yeah, you may be right on the Skal causing it with his movement. I just see the arm take and think - that's a foul. See guys, this is why I'm not a referee. I will freely admit, I should be wearing glasses but don't. I just turned 41 snd can't admit to myself that I should, even thought he last eye exam proved it. Thanks for the education.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Ok. I'll give you that. There is no actual over the back in the rule book. I'll take your word on it seeing as how I'm not an expert on the rule book. And I'm not arguing for the sake of, and surely not trying to be a douche or anything. Let's call it a pushing foul. Any time a player establishes position on a missed shot, another player can't displace him with his body or hands; result is a pushing foul - commonly called over the back - even by professional commentators at times. However, you may be right on the actual term "over the back" not being real foul. Referee will signal a pushing foul in this instance.

And I stand firm on my 'opinion' that Skal was fouled on bag strip. I see a lot of arm take on that play with my eyes (directed to Chuckinden). No worries though, it's just my opinion, I'm no ref for sure.

That's all I was trying to say about the terminology of over the back. You're correct that even announcers get that wrong all the time. If you notice, every time you see that type of foul, you will see the official report it as a push to the table. You are exactly right with what you said in this post.

I see your point about the Skal play and honestly, you may be 100% correct. I just can't tell from that angle and say with any kind of certainty if there was a foul or not. That's just the official in me. Lol. If we could see the baseline angle, I may agree 100% with you. It's all just a matter of angles. Angles and perception rule the officiating world. Lol

 

[jarms24]

Nope, that's a foul. Break it down all you want, create a poll, i don't care. Guarantee you most every poster here well agree Skal got fouled there.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

That's all I was trying to say about the terminology of over the back. You're correct that even announcers get that wrong all the time. If you notice, every time you see that type of foul, you will see the official report it as a push to the table. You got my point though and you were exactly correct with this post.

Yes, I do see the ref everytime signal push. Thanks for the clarity on the terminology. I remeber though, playing on the blue counts and at Haggin court, I was called for over the back repeatedly by my roommate Rob. So you can see why I would be confused on that.

 

[preacherfan]

Seeing that gif reminded me of the time that Lavar Arrington took out the PItt kicker and then, while he was down, took him out again.

 

[wildcatsboston1984]

I wish when I was a manager my coach would have let me do that.

 

[.S&C.]

Skal doesn't play for Duke. He's not going to get a very favorable whistle in a UK uniform, especially later in the Tournament.

Fouls aren't the issue because of this. He will learn to play through fouls, or he won't. But he's not going to get a good whistle at UK.

 

[doneitall]

Yes he was fouled twice in that clip and maybe a third foul but no tweet sound was coming fourth

 

[KopiKat]

mean ass goat knows how to block. funniest thing all day.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Michael Carvell ‏@Carvell_AJC 22m22 minutes ago
Kentucky’s John Calipari says Skal Labissiere “painful to watch sometimes,” enlists managers to beat him up http://trib.al/1ZPX5BB

 

[2Adulterers]

Coach Rupp made us use pads to hit Issel as he went down the lane. He almost always got the basket..The Horse was really strong..

 

[2Adulterers]

Coach Rupp made us use pads to hit Issel as he went down the lane. He almost always got the basket..The Horse was really strong..

 

[2Adulterers]

Coach Rupp made us use pads to hit Issel as he went down the lane. He almost always got the basket..The Horse was really strong..