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Cal said his guards "let the bigs have it"

Briscoe plays with 10x the heart of our bigs. Winner vs. losers in some cases.
If he doesn't improve his free throw shooting he doesn't need to be in the game. Because his game is driving to the bucket and getting fouled. Alex has to hit them too!
 
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I question Alex's competitiveness. I mean, what the crap? Why does he seemed so disengaged at times. Competitive kids come ready to kick someone's butt up between their ears. They can't stand to lose & will do everything short of dying to not do so. They don't mope around on the court & act like they don't even really want to be out there sometimes.
 
How can a Guard be rated 5-Star out of HS but cannot shoot a jumper or hit any foul-shots?
Just what was his rating based on?

Well, supposedly he hit 70% from the line last year, and he won a 3 pt contest too. I think he forgot to bring whatever shooting touch he may have had with him to UK.
 
"we got a roster full of athletes and lottery talent" ..

Not seeing this at all. Athleticism is down a bit and certainly there's little basketball talent that translates to NBA lottery. Murray is the only one on this team that has a shot at real NBA impact.
Can't say that some of the bigs won't get there but they're not going to have any UK impact unless they stay 3/4 years. Tyler may get backup minutes in the League but don't ever see him starting at his height. He's a great college payer for sure. Without him we wouldn't wind up with a winning record.
 
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How can a Guard be rated 5-Star out of HS but cannot shoot a jumper or hit any foul-shots?
Just what was his rating based on?

I know man. It's unbelievable.

It's like, a shooting guards job is mainly to be able to, well, SHOOT. Yet we keep seeing cal and the services rate shooting guards who can't shoot as the cream of the crop.

It would be like a teacher sucking at educating or a hooker not sucking at all.......

It's really starting to irritate. Cal needs to fix it.
 
"we got a roster full of athletes and lottery talent" ..

Not seeing this at all. Athleticism is down a bit and certainly there's little basketball talent that translates to NBA lottery. Murray is the only one on this team that has a shot at real NBA impact.
Can't say that some of the bigs won't get there but they're not going to have any UK impact unless they stay 3/4 years. Tyler may get backup minutes in the League but don't ever see him starting at his height. He's a great college payer for sure. Without him we wouldn't wind up with a winning record.

I agree. Murray is the only TRUE NBA lottery/(maybe first rounder)talent on this team. Everyone will quit basing their hardened opinions on stupid draft boards from November after this year.
 
Well, supposedly he hit 70% from the line last year, and he won a 3 pt contest too. I think he forgot to bring whatever shooting touch he may have had with him to UK.

Not sure about the free throw line. I'll take your word on that.

But he was always considered a project shooting the ball. Lanky, can play some D, can't shoot, shooting guard. That's Cals favorite
 
"we got a roster full of athletes and lottery talent" ..

Not seeing this at all. Athleticism is down a bit and certainly there's little basketball talent that translates to NBA lottery. Murray is the only one on this team that has a shot at real NBA impact.
Can't say that some of the bigs won't get there but they're not going to have any UK impact unless they stay 3/4 years. Tyler may get backup minutes in the League but don't ever see him starting at his height. He's a great college payer for sure. Without him we wouldn't wind up with a winning record.

I think the poster was being sarcastic.
 
Well, supposedly he hit 70% from the line last year, and he won a 3 pt contest too. I think he forgot to bring whatever shooting touch he may have had with him to UK.
Who care...he is shooting 35%FT and 19% 3pt and we're about halfway thru the season. If I caught wind of Briscoe hammering on Lee or Alex, I'd lose all interest in listening to the message.

Ullis and Murray are the only really solid players we have on the team each night..followed by Marcus Lee closely.
 
Go with Tyler Mulder Murray on the wings with either Tai or Hump at C and Willis to start game. Bring Lee and Alex plus Briscoe and Hawk in followed by Matthews. That gives you 4 scoring threats starting.
 
The only player that wasnt scared of LSU last night was Ullis. The rest were scared to death, its like a dog that know you are scared of it will bite you, and LSU bit us
 
On one play one of our bigs barely reached the bottom of the rim while going up for a shot and missed the shot.......
Another play our big pushed a guy out of position to get a rebound?? He could certainly jump higher than the lsu guy but he pushed the guy anyway.

Our guards made many mistakes too....Forced shots......random drives to the basket with head down.....

The only player I can say played well is Derek Willis. He deserves playing time with that set shot he has. String Music!
 
I think Alex Poythress just simply doesn't care the way that he should.
Bash away.
 
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Their struggles has more to do with skill & IQ than effort/motor.
Disagree on the motor part, especially AP and to some degree Skal, Lee usually works hard so I'm not sure what happened there. Ulis and Murray are the only one's that seemed to care.
 
If he doesn't improve his free throw shooting he doesn't need to be in the game. Because his game is driving to the bucket and getting fouled.

His game is also playing outstanding defense, getting steals and rebounding amazingly well for a 6'2" guy. You know there's two ends to the court, Briscoe's actually been pretty damn good on the other end.

Which, of course, greatly distinguishes him from Skal Yes, Briscoe's free throw shooting and three pt shooting has been horrible, but at least he plays his ass off and does good things for us besides scoring. Skal, on the other hand, has just looked hopeless in EVERY aspect of the game. There's nothing he does well.
 
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I think Alex Poythress just simply doesn't care the way that he should.
Bash away.

Our alumni group talks to UK people that travel with the team regularly. It's been said for 3 years now, Alex values education. I can't believe he didn't end up at Vanderbilt.

I was told if cal could keep him out of the books and interested in basketball long enough to teach him he'd be a beast. Alex, with his potential and size, should be getting up at 3:30 in the morning hitting those beautiful 35 million dollar practice facility courts, working his ass to the bone to become a first rounder.

I'm sure he's sleeping with a book on his chest at 3.30am.

Sometimes it IS about a simple question. How bad do you want it.
 
I know man. It's unbelievable.

It's like, a shooting guards job is mainly to be able to, well, SHOOT. Yet we keep seeing cal and the services rate shooting guards who can't shoot as the cream of the crop.

It would be like a teacher sucking at educating or a hooker not sucking at all.......

It's really starting to irritate. Cal needs to fix it.

As I said last night, Cal missed on Brown, Newman, Kennard and Ingram this past year. He has missed in the past on guys like Xavier Henry. It's becoming the accepted wisdom that Cal doesn't go after shooters at all. The 3 spot has always been Cal's bugaboo in his UK tenure. And we have got some good 2 guards, like Lamb and Booker. I honestly don't think it's true Cal doesn't value or go after shooters. I just saw your comment in another post about Cal's favorite being shooting guards that can't shoot. You're starting to sound ridiculous with that.
 
As I said last night, Cal missed on Brown, Newman, Kennard and Ingram this past year. He has missed in the past on guys like Xavier Henry. It's becoming the accepted wisdom that Cal doesn't go after shooters at all. The 3 spot has always been Cal's bugaboo in his UK tenure. And we have got some good 2 guards, like Lamb and Booker. I honestly don't think it's true Cal doesn't value or go after shooters.

Well IMO, the kennards are either proof he's got issues recruiting shooters, or he doesn't value them and make the priority. You really have to pick. Either top shooters don't want to play for him, and if so, why? Or he really doesn't make them a focal point.

To me it's simple. His style isn't suitable for them and really, he's cool not getting them. Cal wants guys who can

1. Put the ball on the deck
2. Play defense.








25. Shooting ability.

Recruits know this. Just because some layers can do it all doesn't mean he was recruiting them for shooting, like in the cases you're naming about brown etc. he wasn't recruiting Ingram to shoot the ball. They really don't mean much to the conversation.
 
As I said last night, Cal missed on Brown, Newman, Kennard and Ingram this past year. He has missed in the past on guys like Xavier Henry. It's becoming the accepted wisdom that Cal doesn't go after shooters at all. The 3 spot has always been Cal's bugaboo in his UK tenure. And we have got some good 2 guards, like Lamb and Booker. I honestly don't think it's true Cal doesn't value or go after shooters. I just saw your comment in another post about Cal's favorite being shooting guards that can't shoot. You're starting to sound ridiculous with that.

Well IMO, the kennards are either proof he's got issues recruiting shooters, or he doesn't value them and make the priority. You really have to pick. Either top shooters don't want to play for him, and if so, why? Or he really doesn't make them a focal point.

To me it's simple. His style isn't suitable for them and really, he's cool not getting them. Cal wants guys who can

1. Put the ball on the deck
2. Play defense.








25. Shooting ability.

Recruits know this. Just because some layers can do it all doesn't mean he was recruiting them for shooting, like in the cases you're naming about brown etc. he wasn't recruiting Ingram to shoot the ball. They really don't mean much to the conversation.


I think you are both right.

When Cal recruited Kennard, Mathews jumped first but we still wanted Luke.

Henry saw Wall, Bledsoe and Meeks.

Cal does want good shooters but the entire world knows Cal wants athletes and defense; and if someone like that is already in that spot then... it's not very easy.
 
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I think you are both right.

When Cal recruited Kennard, Mathews jumped first but we still wanted Luke.

Henry saw Wall, Bledsoe and Meeks.

Cal does want good shooters but the entire world knows Cal wants athletes and defense; and if someone like that is already in that spot then... it's not very easy.

That's basically my point. Does he want shooters? Yea. Does he want a totally different type of player first? Yes.

And that is killing him with the kennards of the world.
 
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That's basically my point. Does he want shooters? Yea. Does he want a totally different type of player first? Yes.

And that is killing him with the kennards of the world.


Because guys like Willis give Cal an aneurism every game. He cannot take it and he will not play zone enough to hide anyone.
 
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I know man. It's unbelievable.

It's like, a shooting guards job is mainly to be able to, well, SHOOT. Yet we keep seeing cal and the services rate shooting guards who can't shoot as the cream of the crop.

It would be like a teacher sucking at educating or a hooker not sucking at all.......

It's really starting to irritate. Cal needs to fix it.

In HS he was a lot stronger than most guards, and took them to the hoop. As far as foul shooting, it has to be in his head, because he shot a lot better in HS. You don't go from 70% to 35% by being in a little slump. I truly believe they need to have him consult a sports psychologist.
 
Our alumni group talks to UK people that travel with the team regularly. It's been said for 3 years now, Alex values education. I can't believe he didn't end up at Vanderbilt.

I was told if cal could keep him out of the books and interested in basketball long enough to teach him he'd be a beast. Alex, with his potential and size, should be getting up at 3:30 in the morning hitting those beautiful 35 million dollar practice facility courts, working his ass to the bone to become a first rounder.

I'm sure he's sleeping with a book on his chest at 3.30am.

Sometimes it IS about a simple question. How bad do you want it.

I posted pretty much the same thing a few weeks ago and got jumped on like Katina Powell in Minardi Hall. But you're 100% right. Alex is a great kid and a super human being. He's smart as hell and I'm sure he'll be successful in life. On the flip side he doesn't appear to be enamored with basketball. He only plays hard about half the time even though his potential is unlimited. Because I say this doesn't mean I don't like Alex. I totally think he's a great role model and everything good......... but basketball isn't life or death to him at all.
 
Ulis would beat the ish out of Poy and Skal at the same time.

God, Poythress.. there's just no excuse. Getting called out by Freshman as a Senior... How pathetic.
 
Poythress absolutely lacks basketball IQ.

Remember when he shot that jacked 3 early in the game, and then LSU got the rebound, raced down court and scored off it? That was a dumb shot.

And he's a senior, which means he's had these refs before. Yet every time he acts flabbergasted that they call the fouls they do. Upperclassmen should have scouting reports on refs.
 
His guards have no room to talk. They can't hit open shots, they turned it over lots of times, and they left open guys that hit 3's.

You can tell this team is weak and soft when the bigs lets guards get all over them. Wow
Welll....... we have office workers,restaurant waiters,sanitation workers, janitors and who knows what the hell else on here that haven't played organized basketball in their lives telling them how to play.
 
And by guards calling out the bigs, the end results will be........Nothing is gonna change, they are what they are......
 
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