Bush Hamden!!
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I gotta agree. I think the problem with our offense is scheme with a little bit of bad line play. Brock isn’t great by any stretch. But he is good enough to manage the game if the scheme was better
In his defense he didn’t bring any of these players in. I’m totally out of blame to go around on oc’s anymore. Stoops has done all the regenerating of narratives he can do on that side of the ball.
If every OC over a 15 year span is the issue…it isn’t the OC.
Eddie Gran was our best OC and it’s bc he had to adapt and play option football due to injuries and it actually fit how stoops overall strategy works. They complimented each other. Only the good lord knows why Stoops is hell bent on hiring spread offense/balanced pro style guys and then slows them down and kills rhythm. If you want to clock control and win TOP then do it moving forward each play with a run heavy game…not hoping you complete passes and then letting the D rest between plays while you wait to snap
Eddie Gran was our best OC and it’s bc he had to adapt and play option football due to injuries and it actually fit how stoops overall strategy works. They complimented each other. Only the good lord knows why Stoops is hell bent on hiring spread offense/balanced pro style guys and then slows them down and kills rhythm. If you want to clock control and win TOP then do it moving forward each play with a run heavy game…not hoping you complete passes and then letting the D rest between plays while you wait to snap
He reminds me a bit of M Night Shyamalan and his cameos are no more enjoyable
I also have a personal belief that BBrown and to a lesser extent Key by proximity have been cancers since they got here. As was the VT Robinson transfer. WRs are always known to be a little bit diva but our WR room has been wildly inconsistent, drops on drops on drops, constant personal fouls, and when they don’t get the ball they are openly complaining on the sideline.
Key and Browns 3 years here have been 3 of the worst stoops years since year 1. They are both way too talented for that to be the case…. And yes I get Brown just returned a kickoff…. But that’s what you get with him. Electric play and then wildly undisciplined and sloppy play or lack of outside blocking etc. none of the dirty, hard, nonspotlight work but want all the glory
Even Ryan Lemonds (KSR) pre season talk about how both of them had grown up and they’ve never worked harder and they are viewing it as an all business “contract year”….alludes to the fact that they’ve previously been immature and wasn’t putting the work in last season and tried to crack down this year. Ryan is just too close to that situation to be completely unbias and that’s dressing it up in a positive light and saying the silent part
Key and Browns 3 years here have been 3 of the worst stoops years since year 1. They are both way too talented for that to be the case…. And yes I get Brown just returned a kickoff…. But that’s what you get with him. Electric play and then wildly undisciplined and sloppy play or lack of outside blocking etc. none of the dirty, hard, nonspotlight work but want all the glory
Even Ryan Lemonds (KSR) pre season talk about how both of them had grown up and they’ve never worked harder and they are viewing it as an all business “contract year”….alludes to the fact that they’ve previously been immature and wasn’t putting the work in last season and tried to crack down this year. Ryan is just too close to that situation to be completely unbias and that’s dressing it up in a positive light and saying the silent part
Remember Gran’s offense at UC?? It was very effective. It never looked anything like that at UK.
Look at Dawson in Miami, Canes lead the nation at almost 600 yards a game. It’s the HC not the OC’s that to blame.
Coen ain’t doing too bad in the NFL.
THIS. Stoops hires a puppet desperate for a job so he can still dictate that the offense remains lackluster and unproductive to suit his play not to lose philosophy.
And he and Dawson were at odds right from the get go.
The real issue with Kentucky football is its head coach.
Yea, he wanted to score.
I liked that 4th and 11 call with out 2 primary receivers on the side line. What can go wrong?
Yea, game on the line and none of your best receivers are in the game. This is below middle school level coaching.
I don’t tend to overreact to things but that is a fireable offense. How is that even possible? I’ve never seen that before.
Hamdans handling of personnel is why I believe he is the worst of Mark Stoops offensive coordinators. The revolving quarterback is ridiculous. Quarterback sneak with 1 1/2 yards to go. Running your “scatback “ up the middle into a 450 lb Dlineman on 4th and goal ……..it’s mind boggling.
I’ve been saying this for years. It was obvious to me after Gran. Our offense, basically, looks the same & suffers the same struggles, every year, regardless of who the OC is, or, how different their offenses looked at their previous jobs.
They run balanced, efficient, fast paste offenses, only to come here & change everything. And, the passing game has mostly been elementary & ugly af, under all of them, which wasn’t indicative of their past results. I mean, we were the slowest offense in the country under Coen, FFS, who didn’t learn that from Sean McVay. Stoops just can’t keep his hands out of the offense.
While I agree it's a fireable offense, does it really matter? Stoops is the defacto OC and the offense will stink no matter who's calling the plays.
I'm glad to see that most here understand the Stoops is the problem here. We are on our sixth, I think, OC in Stoop's tenure. Most of them left for other reasons than being successful. The lone exception being Brown. That in and of itself is a big problem.
Look at every OC's style before they came to UK and then what happens when they get here. Gran's offense at Cincy was dynamic and explosive. Dawson the same. Coen is a pos but his offense is lighting it up at Tampa.
Hamdan was a last second get and was only on campus for two weeks before things kicked off with none of his own recruits. Still, his style is what Stoops wanted. Running was Hamdan's calling card at Boise.
If your boss comes to you and says he wants things to run in a certain way then it runs that way or else. Dawson didn't like it and got fired. Stoops is the issue here. Period.
Look at every OC's style before they came to UK and then what happens when they get here. Gran's offense at Cincy was dynamic and explosive. Dawson the same. Coen is a pos but his offense is lighting it up at Tampa.
Hamdan was a last second get and was only on campus for two weeks before things kicked off with none of his own recruits. Still, his style is what Stoops wanted. Running was Hamdan's calling card at Boise.
If your boss comes to you and says he wants things to run in a certain way then it runs that way or else. Dawson didn't like it and got fired. Stoops is the issue here. Period.
I don’t really disagree with that but Hamden made some really poor decisions last night. We can’t fire. Him anyway because if the amount of turnover but that was pathetic
I thought bringing Wimsatt in on 3rd and long, only to run the jet sweep, which has not worked since the S Miss game, was a pure stroke of brilliance. I can't believe Florida swarmed all over it for no gain. 🤮 😧
Exactly got Baker Mayfield as one of the top QB’s in the league this year!
