If I had $10 for every high school recruit that someone claimed "ran a 4.4" or better, and paid out $20 to every recruit that actually could do it, I would be a very wealthy man.
Bryant Koback wins 100m in 11.36 at meet
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If I had $10 for every high school recruit that someone claimed "ran a 4.4" or better, and paid out $20 to every recruit that actually could do it, I would be a very wealthy man.
Could be, can't find the article again.I played against him in high school(baseball)he was fast.
FWIW, I think Koback has told some people close to the program that he knew he was going to win this particular race and didn't exactly treat it like track's Super Bowl. That's not an excuse, but it is also true that he had previously been running in the 10.6's and 10.7's, to my understanding. He ran a 4.37 at Ohio State (IIRC, and I think he also duplicated with another sub-4.4 on a very legit timed run), ran sub-4.4's at Kentucky well before his commitment (and honestly, before UK really warmed up to him in a major way), and sub-4.4's at one more place I can't remember. If you look at the whole body of work he has excellent speed. Trindon Holliday speed? Who does? But he's a burner, for sure. He will outrun SEC defensive backs most times.
Someone obviously screwed up the 100m timing at state, no way he finishes up that slow.
Didn't mean to stir up such a controversy, maybe he was dogging it in that race, kids in the pic with him are obviously not on his level as an athlete. But being around track and football as much as I have, sub 4.4 40 doesn't translate to a 11.3 100 meters unless he is running into a 50 mph headwind or costing the race. He is the only kid in the pic with any kind of running form and technique. Plus all track guys usually know what the others are capable of and he knew he didn't have to do anything but not false start to win the race. 4.34 in 40 is excellent in the 40, 11.36 not so much in 100 m and they just don't happen under normal conditions.
There is a big discrepancy between times at different places. I have seen camp result spreadsheets from programs all over the country having covered recruiting for so long. It is normal to see a guy go to a school in the Northeast and run 4.61, 4.60, 4.67, then go to a place in the Midwest and have those times in the 4.4's. And those school-timed numbers are supposed to be the most legit because it's for their own information. I think the numbers you would see at Kentucky's camp, which the UK coaches have private access to, are pretty legit numbers. They have no reason to inflate those numbers.
I'm not upset nor do I have a stake in it. I just thought it was important context. IMO, from what I know, the time was a bit of an outlier.
OP has it right. He will never need to run 100 yards unless we are on the 1 yard line and he takes it to the house. He clearly has a fast 40 time and that's what's important. If he doesn't have top end speed, I'm ok with that. The pic clearly shows the guys beside him are not elite sprinters. I'm not sure what the other guys looked liked. At my high school a guy won the state 100m at 10.5. That was in the 80s, and not in KY.
I ran down to the Kroger and back last night and it took me 30 minutes. Would have been 20 but I stopped at Sonic for a half price shake.
Boom is a guy who ran a 4.28 at one of our camps as a frosh. Now I will admit that staff was know to get some fast 40 times, one time they got a 255 lb DE at 4,29, and then at the combine he rand a 4.5. But back to Boom, he is extremely quick and sudden, he is smoking fast for 20 yards, good speed the last 20 of the 40, but wasn't a great sprinter either, he ran a 11.0 as a jr at Georgia state track championships, but he won the race in first 20 yards and was holding on at the end. He just can't maintain that speed like a true sprinter does, but he is lightening in a bottle, would be a great punt return, if he can catch punts.
His speed is suited to football just fine, the fast starts are very important, but he really just looked tired on the one long run I was talking about, I didn't notice it except for that one run.
We never had a track at my small high school (Spring practice was our spring sport) but I did run a 12.0 once, would have been a lot faster if I hadn't had to stop and rest twice.
Seriously though, true story, on my PT test at the end of Army basic training at Ft Benning I maxed every event before the last one, but the next to last one was the side straddle hop, and I should have given up long before I did but I was trying to be perfect and could barely stand after it. The last event was a quarter mile run that started immediately and I barely made it through it, my score was 529 so I think I got 50 points on the first ten and 29 on the quarter mile. Funny, since that is what I made the Ft Bliss track team running. Anyone else do that test with similar scoring, but that was in the late 50s..
Jim Green of Eminence High School was the Ky State Champion at 100 yards in 1967, KHSAA and the USTFF hadn't gone meters at that time and still ran in yards. I was at that meet and won the Class AA 2 mile. I was also a teammate of Jim's at UK his freshman year when he won the NC2A Indoor 60 yard dash and was also named an AA. My nickname on the team was "The Littlefeller". I graduated high school at 5' 7" and 118 lbs(I earned my nickname-lol). I think it was 1972 that Jim was named the World's Fastest Human!!
If I remember right Eminence was third or fourth in the state and Green was the whole team.
Let me know when he shows he can deliver yards from scrimmage on a regular basis. 172#. Really? KOR - OK.Grump who once tried to downplay King's speed and ability.
Grump who once tried to downplay King's speed and ability.
I guess it was me from you asking. I think he is alot like our punt returner, not fast, but quick and elusive and that's been good enough for several returns for TDs in 2 years, but he is far from the fastest guy on the team. I don't know anything about kid's speed that far away from me unless they are in the state track meet, which I try to attend every year, I just like it. Get to see the kids do their thing and unlike most other sports they can laugh and cut up with rivals. He still isn't on Boom's level, he was an important part of the best team in the state his sr year. This has nothing at all to do with King other than its the same HS team. But the kid who was going to play RB, King's old spot, has been arrested and charged with murder. Let me repeat has nothing to do with King except they played at the same HS
Just as a comparison, Koback's time would have placed 3rd in the Fayette County track meet yesterday, and that only because Will Allen chose to rest and Davonte Robinson decided to sit out the rest of the season to rest a sore leg.
It has to do with an opinion that is just an opinion. You demeaned King as from a lesser part of the state for football competition and said he was not as fast as his video suggested. But, in reality it was an opinion that some thought carried more weight because you and he are from Georgia. Let's just wait and see what happens on the football field.
That time wasn't fast and that is all grump is saying. Some of us have been following this kid for a while and know he's one of the fastest guys in the state of Ohio. Ohio and Georgia produce roughly the same same amount of NFL talent. Koback also posted a 7.05 60m time.
Is he world class speed fast? No. But he's probably close to Derrick Locke fast on the field. If UK fans want to worry about koback then worry about his vision and balance. Dk about that yet. But he is consistently one of the fastest guys everywhere he runs.
Is he world class speed fast? No. But he's probably close to Derrick Locke fast on the field. If UK fans want to worry about koback then worry about his vision and balance. Dk about that yet. But he is consistently one of the fastest guys everywhere he runs.
lets look at it in more relatable terms
4.3 verus 5.0 in a forty
yeah that is a HUUUUUGE Difference
You sound like he slept with your wife or something. There have been plenty of similarly sized backs that have been successful in the SEC, I'm not sure if you're aware of that. He'll also continue to put on weight.
That's all I was saying, I don't know anything at all about the kid, other than the posted winning time wasn't a fast 100 meters for HS. I have no idea about him as a RB, nothing about his vision, balance or ability out of the backfield and have no opinion at all on those skills. I just know 11.3 isn't a very fast time for an SEC skill player, I don't know, but I bet UK has very few skill players if any who run 11.3 100 meters as a best time.. But the kid had no reason to go all out, he has a scholarship, his competition you could see were obviously not on his level as an athlete, or the next couple down. He had no reason to go all out or to get out of the blocks great, which equals a slow time.
Not really to anyone, but who cares?
Koback is fast and built well, plus the best part he is headed to uk!
Nothing else matters.
Koback is fast and built well, plus the best part he is headed to uk!
Nothing else matters.
My Grandson is a Soph on The Independence High football team that was state Champs in Tennessee this year. He and three of his teammates finished third in the Great Eight meet at Vandy last week in the 4×100 relay. All three teams broke the meet record. His coach says he has been clocked at 10.8 for the 100 meters in practice. I have my doubts about that but anything around 11 is great for a high schooler.
