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Why is it UK fans have this weird "we're poor and cant do anything" mindset? Other SEC schools would happily eat that buyout. Because they're commited to winning on the field.
Because other schools have multiple boosters who give to football. A&M is not fair comparison at all, they have money Kentucky can’t even get close to. Also everybody in the world knows we have one large booster, we all know who they are, and they like stoops.
 
Because other schools have multiple boosters who give to football. A&M is not fair comparison at all, they have money Kentucky can’t even get close to. Also everybody in the world knows we have one large booster, we all know who they are, and they like stoops.
"They have money Kentucky can’t even get close to", source? A&M? I'm talking about most every other SEC school but Vandy. Also, one large booster, really? So you're connected with the boosters and have that information first hand?
 
Yes they can. They can afford an extra $3 million/year over the next 6 years than what they correctly have budgeted for the head coaching position. That’s what they would need.
They would owe him 44 million dude. Mitch wasn’t gonna fire cal because it would cost him 30m and he didn’t even like the guy. You think he will pay 44m to fire stoops?
 
"They have money Kentucky can’t even get close to", source? A&M? I'm talking about most every other SEC school but Vandy. Also, one large booster, really? So you're connected with the boosters and have that information first hand?
You do know when our media talks about boosters and money, it’s the crafts, it’s always the crafts, they are the ones who write the big checks. And yes Kentucky isn’t in a position to pay a 40 million dollar buyout right now, they have to hope he retires.
 
44 million.

44
They are acting like Kentucky doesn’t have to give money to other sports on campus. Mitch wasn’t gonna fire the coach of the program with actual expectations, why would he fire his buddy with a 44 million dollar buyout(which Kentucky can’t afford right now).
 
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You do know when our media talks about boosters and money, it’s the crafts, it’s always the crafts, they are the ones who write the big checks. And yes Kentucky isn’t in a position to pay a 40 million dollar buyout right now, they have to hope he retires.
Source? Do you not know that buyouts aren't paid in lump sums?
 
Question is how. We can’t afford to fire him. I think he will step down but if he doesn’t, there isn’t a damn thing we can do about it besides not buy tickets.
Didn’t he pull the same stunt as ccc? Wasn't his chase of the a & m job just like ccc and ark?
 
I have liked CMS for a long time, and have not really given an opinion on him being retained or not. But something is different about him now, not sure what it is, his recent loss or something else. Just doesn't have the same fire he had last year. I wouldn't be shocked if he approached ADMB about negotiating a buyout at end of season, may already have.

And Sumrall is at the top of everyone's wish list, rightfully so he has been successful everywhere he has been. But there are no guarantees, Kirby Smart could have been the next Jim Donnan or successful. Sumrall could turn his alma mater into a power or he could become the next Scott Frost who likewise was dominate at lower levels. Good luck with the decisions facing UK fans and administration.
Good to know we’re all not crazy. When other fans start to say the same things it’s time for something.

Stoops’ issue is he has peaked here. Very similar situation to Cal.

The game has changed and what Stoops brings to the table is no longer enough to not only progress even slowly/incrementally over time, but maintain the baseline he established.

He’s losing to middle and lower tier teams.

Most likely a change won’t be made unless CMS leaves on his own. However, if something happens in the next year or two, we are limiting ourselves with all the Summerall talk. Sure, give him a call and interview, but for 9 mill a year plus what we spend on staff, I feel like we can attract a lot of candidates.

Even Saban had to cave a bit and modernize. On offense at least.

Kirby same lineage. He hasn’t just run, D, and ball controlled his way to having UGA at the top. Been a lot of explosive passing game.
 
I have liked CMS for a long time, and have not really given an opinion on him being retained or not. But something is different about him now, not sure what it is, his recent loss or something else. Just doesn't have the same fire he had last year. I wouldn't be shocked if he approached ADMB about negotiating a buyout at end of season, may already have.

And Sumrall is at the top of everyone's wish list, rightfully so he has been successful everywhere he has been. But there are no guarantees, Kirby Smart could have been the next Jim Donnan or successful. Sumrall could turn his alma mater into a power or he could become the next Scott Frost who likewise was dominate at lower levels. Good luck with the decisions facing UK fans and administration.
Good observation. The odds of hitting a home run hire are always against you even if you are Georgia or Bama. IMO a lot of a head coaches success depends on the staff he hires and how they all come together and succeed as a unit. Personal qualities like leadership, motivation, interpersonal skills, overall management and decision making all count. You can make an educated guess on who might make a great head coach and certainly Sumrall checks many of those boxes. But in the end you have to remember the graveyards are full of "can't miss" coaches.
 
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They would owe him 44 million dude. Mitch wasn’t gonna fire cal because it would cost him 30m and he didn’t even like the guy. You think he will pay 44m to fire stoops?
I know they would own him 75% of his remaining contract…I believe the number is $41 million, paid over 6 years, or $6.75 million year.

My posts are simply pointing out that you don’t pay it in a lump sum and our next coach most likely isn’t going to make close to $9 million/year. Combine the annual buyout with a new coaches salary and you are at about $3 million more per year in HC salary than you are right now.

So, if I told you that UK would need to find $3 million a year out of a $175 million budget through 2031 to fire Stoops and pay a new coach, don’t you think that sounds much more doable than paying $41 million because that’s what it is.

Now, whether Mitch would do it or not is a different conversation, but financially, UK had the money to do it over a 6 year period.
 
Source? Do you not know that buyouts aren't paid in lump sums?
Do you know that buyouts have to be paid in full up front as well? If calls contract was like that, then why wouldn’t stoops be? A lot of people are seeing that to contract money and thinking Kentucky football can just do whatever they want. That money has to get allocated to all sports, not just football and basketball
 
Stop with the “Kentucky boy” nonsense. Didn’t the Joker Phillips fiasco teach y’all anything? That should not be a relevant consideration in a coaching search.

Besides, Sumrall is actually from Alabama and Pope from Washington. They were never Kentucky “boys.”
My guess would be if Sumrall is anywhere as good as I hear posters say he is, one of two things might happen. 1. He may want a better situation than he would have here. 2. Fans would put too much expectations on Sumrall and he would or could not live up to those quickly enough to satisfy the fans that think he is the immediately answer. Would you as a coach take a position I just described? That is why Sumrall will not be our next head football coach even if Stoops is fired or retires.
 
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Maybe we can slip Stoops a mickey and get a couple strippers from UL and snap some pictures and fire him for cause. Worth a try!
 
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Fans will turn on John as well once he doesn't win anything that matters.
Not if he puts a well coached, well prepared, fundamentally sound football team on the field. One that plays an exciting, aggressive offense and an attacking, hustling defense.

Fans did not turn on Jerry Claiborne because they knew he and his team were giving their best on the field.

You can't say that about Stoops or this team. Embarrassing from an effort and preparation point right now.
 
No. They can’t
If MB will get his greedy fingers out of FB revenue, UK can afford anything the FB program needs to be successful.

UK gets the same amount of TV money as UT, UGA, Ala, Florida, Texas......well you get the picture.

The money is available. It is how MB CHOOSES to spend that money that helps separate UK from the top FB programs in the SEC.

Success is a choice.
 
It’s been laid out already. You pay the buyout over time. You hire Sumrall for a substantially less amount annually than you’re paying Stoops. It can be done.
 
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Maybe after home blowouts next year by Tn, UTx, Ole M., and FL. Stoops will just hang it up. take his millions and thank UK for providing generational wealth for his heirs.
 
"They have money Kentucky can’t even get close to", source? A&M? I'm talking about most every other SEC school but Vandy. Also, one large booster, really? So you're connected with the boosters and have that information first hand?
For A&m....they have an alumni base infinitely larger, there's no need for any source. Not difficult to put together when you have an enrollment over 70k every year that donations to the 12th man fund are massive.

 
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I know they would own him 75% of his remaining contract…I believe the number is $41 million, paid over 6 years, or $6.75 million year.

My posts are simply pointing out that you don’t pay it in a lump sum and our next coach most likely isn’t going to make close to $9 million/year. Combine the annual buyout with a new coaches salary and you are at about $3 million more per year in HC salary than you are right now.

So, if I told you that UK would need to find $3 million a year out of a $175 million budget through 2031 to fire Stoops and pay a new coach, don’t you think that sounds much more doable than paying $41 million because that’s what it is.

Now, whether Mitch would do it or not is a different conversation, but financially, UK had the money to do it over a 6 year period.

The buyout goes the way the contract says, I dont know if it's a lump sum or not, my guess is only a handful do know. Muschamp got his from Carolina in installments, Richt got his from us as a lump sum, jimbo was a lump sum and today ATM thinks worth every nickle.

I think CMS is depresses from losing his mother, not likely a sudden event, his father basically dying on a sideline, him approaching 60. NIL changing college sports. Retirement might not be looking so bad. Not calling it, but won't surprise me if he announces his retirement at end of season with some kind of negotiated settlement.
 
If we don’t hire Sumrall this year someone else will.

And for those questioning him you are insane. He is the next big young coach.
Based on what exactly. One successful season at Tulane? 2 good seasons at Troy. There are a whole bunch of young coaches out there with better resumes.
 
It won't be $44M. It will be a large amount but not $44M.
Stoops would have to agree to take less. Would he? Maybe. No one knows
If MB will get his greedy fingers out of FB revenue, UK can afford anything the FB program needs to be successful.

UK gets the same amount of TV money as UT, UGA, Ala, Florida, Texas......well you get the picture.

The money is available. It is how MB CHOOSES to spend that money that helps separate UK from the top FB programs in the SEC.

Success is a choice.
its 44 mil. Man. Sometimes it’s just math. Math is the choice
 
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