If true then that’s great, but I’ve seen Brad whites name being floated around some now by media members which makes me think he would be the choice
Bring him home NOW!
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Because other schools have multiple boosters who give to football. A&M is not fair comparison at all, they have money Kentucky can’t even get close to. Also everybody in the world knows we have one large booster, we all know who they are, and they like stoops.
"They have money Kentucky can’t even get close to", source? A&M? I'm talking about most every other SEC school but Vandy. Also, one large booster, really? So you're connected with the boosters and have that information first hand?
They would owe him 44 million dude. Mitch wasn’t gonna fire cal because it would cost him 30m and he didn’t even like the guy. You think he will pay 44m to fire stoops?
You do know when our media talks about boosters and money, it’s the crafts, it’s always the crafts, they are the ones who write the big checks. And yes Kentucky isn’t in a position to pay a 40 million dollar buyout right now, they have to hope he retires.
They are acting like Kentucky doesn’t have to give money to other sports on campus. Mitch wasn’t gonna fire the coach of the program with actual expectations, why would he fire his buddy with a 44 million dollar buyout(which Kentucky can’t afford right now).
Fire him and let the lawyers drag it out for a year or two.
He’ll settle for less.
Didn’t he pull the same stunt as ccc? Wasn't his chase of the a & m job just like ccc and ark?
Good to know we’re all not crazy. When other fans start to say the same things it’s time for something.
Stoops’ issue is he has peaked here. Very similar situation to Cal.
The game has changed and what Stoops brings to the table is no longer enough to not only progress even slowly/incrementally over time, but maintain the baseline he established.
He’s losing to middle and lower tier teams.
Most likely a change won’t be made unless CMS leaves on his own. However, if something happens in the next year or two, we are limiting ourselves with all the Summerall talk. Sure, give him a call and interview, but for 9 mill a year plus what we spend on staff, I feel like we can attract a lot of candidates.
Even Saban had to cave a bit and modernize. On offense at least.
Kirby same lineage. He hasn’t just run, D, and ball controlled his way to having UGA at the top. Been a lot of explosive passing game.
Good observation. The odds of hitting a home run hire are always against you even if you are Georgia or Bama. IMO a lot of a head coaches success depends on the staff he hires and how they all come together and succeed as a unit. Personal qualities like leadership, motivation, interpersonal skills, overall management and decision making all count. You can make an educated guess on who might make a great head coach and certainly Sumrall checks many of those boxes. But in the end you have to remember the graveyards are full of "can't miss" coaches.
It won't be $44M. It will be a large amount but not $44M.
The difference is with Sumrall IF HE IS A HR. He stays at UK. 99% of other coaches will bolt. So give him the chance.
I know they would own him 75% of his remaining contract…I believe the number is $41 million, paid over 6 years, or $6.75 million year.
My posts are simply pointing out that you don’t pay it in a lump sum and our next coach most likely isn’t going to make close to $9 million/year. Combine the annual buyout with a new coaches salary and you are at about $3 million more per year in HC salary than you are right now.
So, if I told you that UK would need to find $3 million a year out of a $175 million budget through 2031 to fire Stoops and pay a new coach, don’t you think that sounds much more doable than paying $41 million because that’s what it is.
Now, whether Mitch would do it or not is a different conversation, but financially, UK had the money to do it over a 6 year period.
If it comes to that, he will. I think he's an honorable person that wouldn't hold us hostage knowing he's lost the team, fans, and the administration.
Do you know that buyouts have to be paid in full up front as well? If calls contract was like that, then why wouldn’t stoops be? A lot of people are seeing that to contract money and thinking Kentucky football can just do whatever they want. That money has to get allocated to all sports, not just football and basketball
WHY is Summer all being anointed as coach, I've got a novel idea lets look around and hire the best guy available.
Because he is the best guy avaliable.
My guess would be if Sumrall is anywhere as good as I hear posters say he is, one of two things might happen. 1. He may want a better situation than he would have here. 2. Fans would put too much expectations on Sumrall and he would or could not live up to those quickly enough to satisfy the fans that think he is the immediately answer. Would you as a coach take a position I just described? That is why Sumrall will not be our next head football coach even if Stoops is fired or retires.
Not if he puts a well coached, well prepared, fundamentally sound football team on the field. One that plays an exciting, aggressive offense and an attacking, hustling defense.
Fans did not turn on Jerry Claiborne because they knew he and his team were giving their best on the field.
You can't say that about Stoops or this team. Embarrassing from an effort and preparation point right now.
If MB will get his greedy fingers out of FB revenue, UK can afford anything the FB program needs to be successful.
UK gets the same amount of TV money as UT, UGA, Ala, Florida, Texas......well you get the picture.
The money is available. It is how MB CHOOSES to spend that money that helps separate UK from the top FB programs in the SEC.
Success is a choice.
Bingo.
UT fired Cornbread Pruitt and gave him diddly squat and they are still in court almost 4 years later and winning the crap out of games in every sport, including football.
It’s been laid out already. You pay the buyout over time. You hire Sumrall for a substantially less amount annually than you’re paying Stoops. It can be done.
Sumrall and then spend some money to get Wil Stein to come home as OC. Do it Mitch.
For A&m....they have an alumni base infinitely larger, there's no need for any source. Not difficult to put together when you have an enrollment over 70k every year that donations to the 12th man fund are massive.
College sports top donors: Ranking the most generous athletics boosters
Data suggests lopsided giving in college athletics.
www.google.com
The buyout goes the way the contract says, I dont know if it's a lump sum or not, my guess is only a handful do know. Muschamp got his from Carolina in installments, Richt got his from us as a lump sum, jimbo was a lump sum and today ATM thinks worth every nickle.
I think CMS is depresses from losing his mother, not likely a sudden event, his father basically dying on a sideline, him approaching 60. NIL changing college sports. Retirement might not be looking so bad. Not calling it, but won't surprise me if he announces his retirement at end of season with some kind of negotiated settlement.
If we don’t hire Sumrall this year someone else will.
And for those questioning him you are insane. He is the next big young coach.
And for those questioning him you are insane. He is the next big young coach.
Based on what exactly. One successful season at Tulane? 2 good seasons at Troy. There are a whole bunch of young coaches out there with better resumes.
Stoops would have to agree to take less. Would he? Maybe. No one knows
its 44 mil. Man. Sometimes it’s just math. Math is the choice
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