Bossman Fat Rumor

[seccats04]

Don’t know may 8 year olds that can talk about watching film, knowing it was third down and they would be doing a quick pass and that they scouted and were ready for that and it helped him get the interception, come on man if that’s the clip that makes you think he couldn’t pass a college class I don’t know what it really is but it ain’t that clip…

and he wasn’t kicked off the team at lsu he was suspended for the bowl game for a violation of team rules, but difference.

im sure the guy you know who was around the team every day is reputable, but coach stoops had no problem playing him every game he could and his overall judgement seems to be more valuable than anyones.

I understand if you ultimately are mad that he decided he was not going to play in the bowl game and that’s what ended his career at Kentucky, but to attack a guy personally who you do not even know over character issues or intelligence seems ridiculous to me.

if you talk about on field production that makes sense but if you do not know him or anything he personally did than seems off to me is all I’m saying.

Let’s just say the guy I know that was around the team told me about his issues at LSU. I’m surprised he made it through one year here. Now he’s in the middle of a murder investigation which doesn’t surprise me.

 

[Jont0805]

Bossman is involved in a murder and you are defending him. Even if he wasn't the trigger man he's a professional athlete running around with street thugs. Get your priorities straight.

I asked what his time at Kentucky gave him the impression that he was a pos or couldn’t graduate a single class.

wasn’t defending his current actions or anything that happened recently or at lsu. I have no direct knowledge of any of that and he hasn’t been convicted of anything, if he did that awful on him and what a waste of a chance.

My question was why did his time at Kentucky give them any reason to believe he couldn’t pass a class or was a terrible person?

it definitely seems like he has some priorities in question to even put himself in that situation. Happens all the time with professional athletes it really is baffling to have all those millions and be involved in anything like that.

 

[Jont0805]

Let’s just say the guy I know that was around the team told me about his issues at LSU. I’m surprised he made it through one year here. Now he’s in the middle of a murder investigation which doesn’t surprise me.

This sounds more credible, sounds like we may have dodged bullets if he had this many issues and didn’t get in trouble here, stoops seems to be decent at that but we have had a lot of issues lately compared to before, but unlike other programs he seems to deal with them when they come up, so I just assumed whatever issues if they were that bad never showed up here at Kentucky or maybe he was good at hiding them who knows.

 

[WayneDougan]

Let’s say you’re running around with a guy you didn’t know had a gun, your crew gets in a fight with another group, and then your buddy ends up murdering somebody from that group in a drive by where you’re in the car. Unless you immediately go to the cops and tell them what happened you’d be at least an accessory to first degree murder, right?

 

[YaketySax]

He skipped the last REGULAR SEASON game

Good memory. Looked it up and DNP vs SCAR on 5 Dec of COVID season

cfbstats.com - Kelvin Joseph 2020 Player Statistics - Kentucky Wildcats

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[TBCat]

Bossman is involved in a murder and you are defending him. Even if he wasn't the trigger man he's a professional athlete running around with street thugs. Get your priorities straight.

We don't know that yet. Just that he is a person of interest. That can mean a lot of things. It can even mean that he was someone that was trying to break up a situation. I've learned many years ago to never jump on the first take of the press. There are no journalist any more so those that are reporting things haven't done any homework. The first reports on just about any story are almost 100% wrong or out of context.

That said, I was one that was saying Joseph shouldn't go pro early because he wasn't ready. This was the kind of thing I was talking about. His immaturity was abundantly clear from day 1. Giving a guy like this total independence and millions of dollars is how you end up with another Pacman Jones. Even if he's not a bad guy, I do expect him to put himself in the wrong place at the wrong time often.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Let’s say you’re running around with a guy you didn’t know had a gun, your crew gets in a fight with another group, and then your buddy ends up murdering somebody from that group in a drive by where you’re in the car. Unless you immediately go to the cops and tell them what happened you’d be at least an accessory to first degree murder, right?

Accessory after the fact, perhaps.

 

[ganner918]

Let’s say you’re running around with a guy you didn’t know had a gun, your crew gets in a fight with another group, and then your buddy ends up murdering somebody from that group in a drive by where you’re in the car. Unless you immediately go to the cops and tell them what happened you’d be at least an accessory to first degree murder, right?

I don't think there's a legal obligation to go and turn them in if you're just a passenger in a car with somebody else who shoots someone. But if you assist in hiding them, hiding/destroying evidence, lying to police, etc. then you're an accessory.

 

[seccats04]

Why pick on him? The unlimited transfer portal is bound to lead to academic non performance. How many players have bounced through three or four schools by now? I can't imagine what kind of degree or academic progress going to three or four schools would produce, little to none is what I would guess.

Getting away from negative influences in Louisiana was a good thing for him. However, being with people who would shoot out of a car and kill somebody doesn’t sound like he’s escaped that lifestyle.

 

[WayneDougan]

I don't think there's a legal obligation to go and turn them in if you're just a passenger in a car with somebody else who shoots someone. But if you assist in hiding them, hiding/destroying evidence, lying to police, etc. then you're an accessory.

So his attorney has just said that's the situation. He was in the car, but he wasn't the shooter. I don't see how Dallas doesn't release him immediately. Bossman is never playing another down again.

 

[FtWorthCat]

Why don’t UK fans like Bossman again? I think it’s because he left after one year but I’ve forgotten tbh.

He was too undiscplined and got kicked out of a program (LSU) not exactly know for it's discipline recently. We are lucky we only had him for a year, or he would have eventually gotten in trouble at UK as well. It's not the UK fans don't like him. It's that UK fans realize he is a dumbass. We got some decent play from him overall, iirc. Struggled early, and made some plays later in the season is how I remember it.

 

[CowboyGumBoots]

Are we throwing players under the bus for missing bowl games now? Those who do be prepared to add a few more to your list. That’s pretty much the future of college football. Early departures are only going to be more prevalent. Won’t go back the other way

 

[Catluv]

So his attorney has just said that's the situation. He was in the car, but he wasn't the shooter. I don't see how Dallas doesn't release him immediately. Bossman is never playing another down again.

If he was in the car and didn’t know a guy was going to shoot someone what makes you think he doesn’t play again. If this is true he probably gets some counseling and will play again. If he didn’t pull trigger he will almost surely play again. You need to check out the NFL there are a bunch of guys playing that have done things. They are not all choir boys. I really liked bossman when he played here. HOPE he is found innocent. 22 year old guys don’t think like older people.

 

[WayneDougan]

If he was in the car and didn’t know a guy was going to shoot someone what makes you think he doesn’t play again. If this is true he probably gets some counseling and will play again. If he didn’t pull trigger he will almost surely play again. You need to check out the NFL there are a bunch of guys playing that have done things. They are not all choir boys. I really liked bossman when he played here. HOPE he is found innocent. 22 year old guys don’t think like older people.

Dude... he was in a street fight (it was on video), and then moments later he and his crew did a drive-by shooting and killed a man in that same fight. That's first degree murder. Had he called the cops the next morning he would have had a fighter's chance. He is absolutely finished. He'll be lucky not to be in prison for the next ten years.

The funny part is that you all are just taking him at his word that a) he wasn't the trigger man and b) he had no idea that was about to go down.

 

[Catluv]

Dude... he was in a street fight (it was on video), and then moments later he and his crew did a drive-by shooting and killed a man in that same fight. That's first degree murder. Had he called the cops the next morning he would have had a fighter's chance. He is absolutely finished. He'll be lucky not to be in prison for the next ten years.

The funny part is that you all are just taking him at his word that a) he wasn't the trigger man and b) he had no idea that was about to go down.

So you were in the car and saw him pull the trigger. Say that on the stand and see how that will work out. If you were in the car and someone shot the guy would you be convicted of murder. Sorry the guy got killed but unless Kelvin pulled the trigger don’t think he will be sentenced for murder. You ever hear of Ray Lewis think he played for years after a guy was murdered with him there. If Kelvin pulled the trigger he will be charged.

 

[cathouse]

If you do, when you are convicted, what would they put on your rap sheet ??

Gangsta Rapper

 

[WayneDougan]

So you were in the car and saw him pull the trigger. Say that on the stand and see how that will work out. If you were in the car and someone shot the guy would you be convicted of murder. Sorry the guy got killed but unless Kelvin pulled the trigger don’t think he will be sentenced for murder. You ever hear of Ray Lewis think he played for years after a guy was murdered with him there. If Kelvin pulled the trigger he will be charged.

Some differences:
1) Ray Lewis is one of the best players ever ; Bossman is fighting for the 2nd corner position at Dallas.
2) Ray Lewis's situation happened before social media
3) Ray Lewis was well liked; Bossman is not
4) The situation around the murder was a little different if I recall; the guy was murdered during the fight. Not afterwards in a driveby.

 

[Catluv]

Some differences:
1) Ray Lewis is one of the best players ever ; Bossman is fighting for the 2nd corner position at Dallas.
2) Ray Lewis's situation happened before social media
3) Ray Lewis was well liked; Bossman is not
4) The situation around the murder was a little different if I recall; the guy was murdered during the fight. Not afterwards in a driveby.

But you had Kelvin being the trigger man after his lawyer said he didn’t pull it. Oh sorry I didn’t realize if you are well liked you can kill someone. I am kinda sure if you get killed at any time it is considered murder. Once again if Kelvin pulled the trigger he will be in trouble. Just can’t convict people on what we think. I will wait for the facts to play out. He may go down NO way we can say that for sure right now. Once again look up players in NFL you might be surprised at what goes on with them.

 

[cathouse]

Dude... he was in a street fight (it was on video), and then moments later he and his crew did a drive-by shooting and killed a man in that same fight. That's first degree murder. Had he called the cops the next morning he would have had a fighter's chance. He is absolutely finished. He'll be lucky not to be in prison for the next ten years.

The funny part is that you all are just taking him at his word that a) he wasn't the trigger man and b) he had no idea that was about to go down.

Pretty simple. If he was in the car he knows who did the shooting.

If he doesn't talk, he goes to prison.

If he does talk, he is a dead man walking.

Either way, his NFL playing days are over.

 

[SaguaroCat]

Are we throwing players under the bus for missing bowl games now? Those who do be prepared to add a few more to your list. That’s pretty much the future of college football. Early departures are only going to be more prevalent. Won’t go back the other way

He skipped the last regular season game AND the bowl game.

 

[NoDef]

He was and is a POS

A lot of those type of characters on college campuses all over the country. Coaches win or get fired. You can't run 11 Rudy's out there and keep your job. Stoops does a pretty good job on handling the off the field stuff, but with 80 or so kids around the program it's hard not to have a few bad decisions being made..

 

[The-Hack]

If you do, when you are convicted, what would they put on your rap sheet ??

Will a witness sing?

 

[WildcatofNati]

Let’s say you’re running around with a guy you didn’t know had a gun, your crew gets in a fight with another group, and then your buddy ends up murdering somebody from that group in a drive by where you’re in the car. Unless you immediately go to the cops and tell them what happened you’d be at least an accessory to first degree murder, right?

No, Wayne, not even close. That's not a defense of Joseph but you're absolutely wrong about that.

 

[WayneDougan]

No, Wayne, not even close. That's not a defense of Joseph but you're absolutely wrong about that.

Thanks… it was a legit question.