His BYU team was projected top 15-20 next year as well while UK wasn't anywhere on the list.
Boogie Fland and UK
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No less inspiring than what our team and season was going to look like had Calipari stayed tho, eh?
Fland is the type of point guard you want every year. Highly skilled, team oriented and a winner. Couldn't ask for a better 1 IMO.
Lets get him the NIL $$$$$$
That one is obvious and has been mentioned many times.
Shortcomings is plural - so name some more
Still don’t get it. Those guys are Cals recruits. The came to play for Cal. Not for Kentucky…..They want the 1 and done brand. We are toast wit these types of players.
And most of us are tired of the one and done.
I’m fairly certain you do have a good idea.
Up until a week and a half ago we (you) knew what our roster would be next season and that Calipari would be coach.
Your right you don't get it apparently. What part of "I wouldn’t assume they would remain with UK" is confusing?
JQ and his dad literally said he wanted to see who we hired. Fland hasn't decomitted yet, probably waiting to see who was hired first and make a decision. Probably won't matter for either anyway, but that's why I said they would at least take the call.
Definitely. My only point is, to 95% of us on the board (maybe more?) we had accepted the fact that Caliparis incoming class and mass departure would not result in a successful season.
Go out and get Mark Mitchell and Seth Trimble from the portal!
NIL changes the game. He’ll have more than 4 million to hit it hard. Find the right guys and those shortcomings disappear for the most part.
Actually Kentucky was ranked number 14 in the way too early top 25 and that was when we had no coach and no roster
He’s never had a recruiting class in the top 50. That’s speaks volumes about his ability to coach. But he’s never been able to get players.
THe thing about NIL is that Pope will be able to recruit. He won't recruit at Cal levels but apparently 2 guys he tried to get to BYU called him and asked if he would take them at UK. Top 10-15 guys might be out of our sights for a couple years but we can still sign 15 to 30 pretty good and add in 2 or 3 transfers every year.
24,000 fans that also show up at away games still sells itself. We just haven't been recruiting guys that care about that.
24,000 fans that also show up at away games still sells itself. We just haven't been recruiting guys that care about that.
I've been a Kentucky fan since the 40s. At one point, there were kids that cared about that. But in reality, we have had very few great players that actually came from Kentucky. Before, when only a few teams actually got a nationally televised game, it mattered. But now, every single game played is on TV somewhere. The players are getting paid. I just don't think we are going to get kids that really care about UK basketball, or any team for that matter, the way that the fans do. The times have changed. I remember when Curt Flood won the right to be a free agent and everyone complained that it would change baseball forever and the fans wouldn't support their team anymore. Then Pete Rose left the Reds and everyone said the same. It is now happening in college sports. It will take awhile for the water to reach a level, and I most likely won't get to see that happen, but it will eventually get to a point where everyone is fine again. To your point about fans though, I do think once kids get here, they appreciate the fact that the fans travel and support them home and away. Unfortunately, social media has ruined quite a bit of that because there are group of fans, albeit maybe just a few, that make it tough on these kids through social media. And while the kids might not see it all, their parents do, and it makes it tough when people are toxic about something as trivial as kids playing a game.
“Hell, Jesus Christ couldn’t win without talent!”
—- Johnny Orr
BYU has some pretty strict religious rules. I won't want to recruit for them. You automatically eliminate probably 80% of the Top 100 just based on how seriously they take the no drinking, no sex stuff. All religious schools have this issue, but some are more strict than others.
I don't disagree with you but I think playing in front of packed arenas is more attractive than playing in glorified HS gyms with half empty seats. I think showing up to a tournament and having home court advantage makes kids feel good whether they care about UK or not. That's what I was talking about "selling itself". I agree the name "UK" doesn't sell like the old days because of the tv contracts but there is still a difference between playing guitar for the Rolling Stones and playing guitar for Nickleback... Yea Nickleback had a good little run and have a few good hits but the Stones fill stadiums and people still scream and yell at their concerts while the other is playing at casinos and county fairs.
Most players don't care like they used to but some do and we just need a good balance of heart and talent and we can win big. Some of our best teams only had a couple pros.
His complete lack of recruiting experience. Thats incredibly important. Reports were he never went to any even moderately high level aau events. Makes total sense for BYU but not for UK. Yes we want to divorce depending on one and done but not be completely devoid of incoming talent.
He needs a top flight recruiter. That's an absolute must.
No, Jim's and Joe's don't trump X's and O's.
Why would that be so bad? Handpick the best ones off that roster and build from there. They were a 6 seed and had some really good wins, including @Kansas, a team we couldn’t beat on a neutral court. I can’t think of a better way to jumpstart this team next year than to have some players on the roster who know the way Pope coaches and know the system, who can help bring everyone else along.
Agree that recruiting is important but as a coach, I would be more concerned with fit (which I believe Pope will) rather than how many stars are by their name (main concern of Ellen’s roommate). He has experience recruiting with 9 years of being a head coach.
True, none of his classes are even ranked near the top 20 in the country. This tells me 2 things:
- Of all the schools to choose from, how many players want to go to BYU?
- Pope must be a good coach to take low star recruits and yet build teams that rank in the top 25 each year.
With millions of NIL….he better more then that
Lots of so called reasonable persons made judgments about losses in the tournament from a certain former coach. Not saying that is wrong, but it absolutely is how everyone is judged at UK. And to have a coach with 0 tournament wins is a recipe for disaster here. I hope I’m wrong and he does great, Just don’t see it. We will have a very weak roster and an inexperienced coach. Not a good combo.
You realize IU has 6 million+ and Ark has 6 million and Duke and Kansas have about that.
4 million isn’t enough.
Yes, agree with the 10 loss seasons yet, he has a winning percentage of 67% at BYU! Think he might attract more talented players at UK
Defense - I have only watch 1 game against Baylor and I would say they were average.
I do think it was his worst class but I expect Ark to do much better than us this year since most freshman have already signed. We really need to get some guys back.
