I believe they have to be 18 by September 15th.
No, that's for the G League draft. This is completely different and they only have to be done with high school.
I believe they have to be 18 by September 15th.
Yes, I know, now what does that mean? Are they paying for room and board at Harvard or SENW Louisiana Tech? The program must have set details, somewhere.
I don't really see what the big deal is, college basketball was fine in the 90s early 2000s when prospects jumped straight to the pros. How is this any different? Even if they end up consistently getting 5-10 elite guys a year, there are still thousands of players left over.
This is my take on this. There's no reason for college basketball fans to get upset over this. Just let them go. The sport will be fine without those players.
The sport was in better shape in the pre-one and done era when the top ranked guys were skipping CBB for the draft, so why do we think it's a bad thing if some start skipping for the G-League instead?
No there isn’t. But guys that go to college have 4 chances to have a good season that can get them a pro contract. If these guys are bad in their one year, as an 18 year old, is there a chance they are finished?And what happens to the ones that go to college and are just really bad? There are no guarantees either way.
We've had a lot of five star prospects that spent years at UK yet were still considered undraftable when they left (with this year's example being EJ). If they'd gone this route then at least they would've gotten a paycheck during those spent years.
Your initial argument was "have an education to fall back on" are you now changing it to a Harvard education? Now that it's been proven that they will get a full ride you wanna worry about the quality/ prestige of the University.Yes, I know, now what does that mean? Are they paying for room and board at Harvard or SENW Louisiana Tech? The program must have set details, somewhere.
https://budgeting.thenest.com/full-scholarship-mean-23932.html
No, he is not. This was talked about on Twitter by some NBA/college analysts. Kuminga will be 18 in September and this developmental aspect of the G League only requires them to have finished high school (which he could do by re-classifying this spring).
I'm trying to get at the actual potential value. It isn't a difficult concept. Trainers are irrelevant as their careers are supposedly over. Again you say full scholarship, what does that mean. You just keep typing those 2 words.And how much for their individual trainers?! Those don't all cost the same. What about meal plans? Does Green have to eat the same food as Todd?
What does it matter? What's the point you're trying to get at? Because it comes across like you're trying to lessen it instead of admitting that the contract provides the education you claimed it didnt provide.
Jalen Green was going to go to Memphis for a year before being a top 10 pick. But instead he has a full scholarship, financial literacy classes, etc. What detail are you looking for that makes that a worse deal for him?
I'm not changing anything. It's great that is being offered to select players. I want to know what its limits are. You totally missed the point.Your initial argument was "have an education to fall back on" are you now changing it to a Harvard education? Now that it's been proven that they will get a full ride you wanna worry about the quality/ prestige of the University.
Im sure the player will get a full ride to any institution that they can get admitted to (grades, ACT, etc).
I'm trying to get at the actual potential value. It isn't a difficult concept. Trainers are irrelevant as their careers are supposedly over. Again you say full scholarship, what does that mean. You just keep typing those 2 words.
The value is going to change depending on the school they choose. Why does it matter if it's $120k for a kid going to Memphis or $125k for a kid going to Michigan?
Do you parse the same numbers when kids are making their college choice, or why does the "actual value" matter here?
What do you mean trainers are irrelevant? Whose career is over?
That brings up an interesting point. I assume these are 1 year contracts. What happens when they aren't good enough for the NBA draft yet and really underwhelmed during the G-League. Do they get another big contract with the perks or do they get relegated.No there isn’t. But guys that go to college have 4 chances to have a good season that can get them a pro contract. If these guys are bad in their one year, as an 18 year old, is there a chance they are finished?
They aren't going to school until their career is over, correct? Come on Gonzo. At that point, why would they need trainers. They are done, supposedly transitioning into students to prepare themselves for the rest of their lives. Where do you come up with 120K, that is my question. Are their limits on this so called full scholarship, which usually only means tuition by the way.The value is going to change depending on the school they choose. Why does it matter if it's $120k for a kid going to Memphis or $125k for a kid going to Michigan?
Do you parse the same numbers when kids are making their college choice, or why does the "actual value" matter here?
What do you mean trainers are irrelevant? Whose career is over?
Maybe short term but who's going to suppor the league financially? I wont watch or buy a ticket to minor league basketball? Thats why im not worried about it. College basketball's draw is not just the player level its the tradition and atmosphere that make it appealing and marketable. Minor leagues in any pro sport are not.If these guys work out next season then this G League thing could be a real threat. They have now landed 3 top 20 guys from this class.
They aren't going to school until their career is over, correct? Come on Gonzo. At that point, why would they need trainers. They are done, supposedly transitioning into students to prepare themselves for the rest of their lives. Where do you come up with 120K, that is my question. Are their limits on this so called full scholarship, which usually only means tuition by the way.
Maybe short term but who's going to suppor the league financially? I wont watch or buy a ticket to minor league basketball? Thats why im not worried about it. College basketball's draw is not just the player level its the tradition and atmosphere that make it appealing and marketable. Minor leagues in any pro sport are not.
I'm not wrong. Geeze, you aren't usually in left field. I have no idea how both of us are seeing plain text totally differently. For now, I found my own answer to most of my questions. The scholarship is for online classes through Arizona State, they have up to 5 years after leaving the league to use it.What do you think a trainer does? For someone so worried about every detail of the contract you seem hellbent on either misunderstanding or misrepresenting it. That's a coincidence, I'm sure.
I made up the numbers to show you that they don't matter at all. If you think the G League is paying Jalen Green $500,000 and then is going to try and be like "lol jokes on you sucker you have to pay $400 for your books!" I don't know what to tell you.
But feel free to keep digging this hole. It's important that you weren't completely wrong until Aaron Goodwin posts Jalen's full contract here for us to read.
it was not then...only very few went. AND the rest stayed 2-4 years...This is my take on this. There's no reason for college basketball fans to get upset over this. Just let them go. The sport will be fine without those players.
The sport was in better shape in the pre-one and done era when the top ranked guys were skipping CBB for the draft, so why do we think it's such a bad thing if some now start skipping for the G-League?
I'm not wrong. Geeze, you aren't usually in left field. I have no idea how both of us are seeing plain text totally differently. For now, I found my own answer to most of my questions. The scholarship is for online classes through Arizona State, they have up to 5 years after leaving the league to use it.
https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-gleague-education-program-game-plan-arizona-state/
I'm not wrong. Geeze, you aren't usually in left field. I have no idea how both of us are seeing plain text totally differently. For now, I found my own answer to most of my questions. The scholarship is for online classes through Arizona State, they have up to 5 years after leaving the league to use it.
https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-gleague-education-program-game-plan-arizona-state/
Texas will be very good..they return everyone+BrownI think you meant, 'will continue to suck'. Kentucky football is better than Texas basketball.
Ah, interesting. I just figured I could see it actually spelled out somewhere.That’s the program for G League players (i.e., players who have contracts with teams).
Green is part of the pathway program and has a different contract. The scholarship associated with his contract is a full scholarship at the school of his choice.
Ok gonzo, what is a trainer and what does it have to do with post career education?You're wrong about whatever you apparently think a trainer is.
The rest you seem to be just looking to ask questions that the answers don't matter to. I'm glad you found your own answers. I'm sure it makes the whole G League idea bad again.
Did you get up on the wrong side of bed or something? I think I've said twice now that its a good thing, I just like details.You're wrong about whatever you apparently think a trainer is.
The rest you seem to be just looking to ask questions that the answers don't matter to. I'm glad you found your own answers. I'm sure it makes the whole G League idea bad again.
I agree but he was linked. Christopher is another good one
Ok gonzo, what is a trainer and what does it have to do with post career education?
The value is in the training, development, exposure, etc. Money is secondary. It's also not about exposure. It's a better path to the pros than college.I'm trying to get at the actual potential value. It isn't a difficult concept. Trainers are irrelevant as their careers are supposedly over. Again you say full scholarship, what does that mean. You just keep typing those 2 words.
Exactly and I never brought one up, you did.A trainer is what a trainer has been in sports in every instance my entire life. It has nothing to do with post career education.
You think G-League exposure will be better than top level college programs? I don't. What makes it a better path?The value is in the training, development, exposure, etc. Money is secondary. It's also not about exposure. It's a better path to the pros than college.
Exactly and I never brought one up, you did.
Why are you so hung up on trainers? I have always been talking about post career education in this. You brought up trainers for some odd reason that I apparently don't understand.Jesus Christ.
The issue is every time you are given answers, you move the goalpost. They are given a full ride. For whatever reason any cost isn't covered (which I doubt) I'm sure the student would be permitted to hit up Aunt Sallie Mae for a loan like 99% of the rest of college attendees.Did you get up on the wrong side of bed or something? I think I've said twice now that its a good thing, I just like details.
You think G-League exposure will be better than top level college programs? I don't. What makes it a better path?
He's gonna be dragon his tail overseas or maybe playing with Sydney Deane in Venice Beach.Maybe it's the Dragon?