It is way harder to win a FB national championship. It is actually harder to win a SEC FB championship than in BB. Basketball you have to win 6 straight in March. FB you have to win at least 11 of 12 to qualify, over a few months. Throw in the weather outside, injuries way more in FB, managing 85 players vs 12, etc. It is way more difficult. It is way more difficult just to be relevant in FB. Not saying winning the championship in BB is easy but no comparison there
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That is one yr look at the history of program . Every team has been upset once. To think it is harder to win fb than bbtourney is wrong—-you have to win 2 games fb and 6bb. i root for both but bb has a much better history
It is great to be a football fan but it is wrong to trash Cal or bb program. Cal is a great coach and ambassodor for 6he state . He didnt say the football wasnt good he just said they are not Ala or Ga which is true. we are at the top of bb order and in the midstream football level. Facts are facts thats why we have history scoreboard bb 8 titles fb 1 1951
He didnt , he just said they are not Ala or Ga. i root for both but this bitery from football fans is hurting program.
Personally, not worth much, but I'd trade 7 of those hoops titles for one SEC East FB title.
Wrong UK would have to win 12 straight to qualify then win the SEC championship before getting into the playoff. Then you would only have to win two. 😂. You can get to the BB tournament if you're over ,500. There is no comparison
Yes, but he was handed a team filled with MAC level recruits. OTOH, Cal came in with all the advantages and consistently recruited top five classes but has only one title - that’s because that team had enough talent to outplay his lack of coaching skills. No one in the history of sports has accomplished less with what they have than John Calipari. The thing that makes me laugh though is how you guys worship him while he degrades the fan base with his smug New England attitude. I know, worked, and lived with them for a few years - people like Cal think you’re one step above an amoeba.
Your point about "making Stoops job harder" is spot on. That's exactly what Calipari did. Similar to "when pigs fly", "when hell freezes over" ... Cal is unknowingly creating his own personalized idiom which is "when Calipari apologizes". Every student athlete, coach, alumnus, student, BBN deserves an apology from John Calipari for his total lack of regard and respect for all things UK. BTW, read the signature line below this post to be reminded who Calipari really is ... in HIS own words.
Basketball Is the second tier sport at any university if they have a football program. Unless you wanna be like Kansas Who would die the trade places with Kentucky not because of basketball but what conference there in which is football… Stoops Is building a football program which is worth more than a basketball program just fact. History is what it is… The money talks now. New day
Yeah.
So Stoops could cite the simple fact that his program grosses the University a multiple of what the roundball program does.
It is a fact.
But Stoops isn’t so dumb, so self-centered or so tone-deaf to screw up like that.
I am a Kentucky football and basketball fan. What is the difference between a Kentucky football fan and a Kentucky basketball fan? I am still not sure. I have not seen anyone answer that question intelligently yet. If you support the University of Kentucky, you want the University of Kentucky to be successful. The University of Kentucky is not a basketball team. The University of Kentucky is the state school, with many departments and programs. They do not exist to compete with each other.
The University of Kentucky has won 8 NCAA Championships. Fact. Seven of those were more than two decades ago, and four of the seven were 70 years ago. It does not diminish the championships. But it does not diminish the value of other sports either. Where did anyone come up with that silliness? Some people are leveraging the eight championships to justify what Cal said. Come on. It is no justification for pulling football into this. If Cal is unhappy, he is being paid enough to make his case without dumping on his peers at Kentucky. There was no reason whatsoever to bring up football. Kentucky is building new facilities for the track team. Is anyone blaming this on the track team? Of course not. Other sports are not the point, and Cal does not make an effective case by doing this.
If you live long enough, you get to see everything. Cal loses to St. Peter's, and our fans want him gone. Then Cal dumps on our successful football program and our fans defend Cal. This either/or mentality is self defeating. I support Cal, but he is way out of line in this case. Some of you guys are so gullible.
Cal's been sucking wind for years. Overpaid and underproducing, now he is resorting to whining in public. The old adage "if you have to tell someone you're important....you're not" is in play here.
Cal had to tell the world we're a BB school? The fact of the matter is that Cal's half-a$$ed coaching over the past half decade has placed the question in the minds of CBB fans: "Is Kentucky still elite?".....and the follow on question: "UK: BB or FB school?"
He feels the walls closing in and he is starting to panic.
GBB!
With 14 years of the best talent, the NCAA has ever seen and only one Title
As a penance Cal should have to recruit some 5 stars to the Football program ,,,, well on second thought maybe not
I just enjoy watching college football more than college basketball. it’s just all the pageantry that goes with college football, especially in the south.
Plus you don't get called for a foul for maybe touching someone on the other team. Gladiator basketball would be something to watch.
Look we are a basketball school - Cal was right just worded it bad trying to get his facility
He’s apologized - tried to call Stoops - Stoops didn’t take the call - Football is doing great they will get over it
Stoops needs Cal - recruits want to meet Cal on campus
Barnhart is another issue - he needs to stay away from the microphone
He was a idiot today in every way
He’s apologized - tried to call Stoops - Stoops didn’t take the call - Football is doing great they will get over it
Stoops needs Cal - recruits want to meet Cal on campus
Barnhart is another issue - he needs to stay away from the microphone
He was a idiot today in every way
I can only imagine how much fun the dirty birds are having laughing their asses off over the BBN over this mess. Guess it's their turn, we've had more than our share of fun for many years.
Good lord, this will have zero effect on recruiting. You don’t think todays football recruits know what KY basketball is.
Don't forget the worst record in school history with that great 9 win season.
Basketball been going downhill since 2015
We'll see on Monday a very immediate impact. I hope I'm wrong but a guy flipping from us to FSU right after Cal's comments - sure looks like cause/effect to me.
If all it took was the basketball coach saying we are a basketball school to get a commit to flip elsewhere we weren’t getting them in the first place. Shouldn’t half our team be entering the portal based off this new revelation?
Laughable that anyone seriously thinks it's harder to win BB championship than FB. As others have pointed out, you don't have to be dominant throughout the season to have a chance in BB. Very few BB Champs have been unbeaten, none since 1975. So, you can lose a handful of games and still be the Champs. You can have a week or two during the season where you lose 2 or 3 games. In most years, one is the most a FB team can lose and still have a chance to win it all. Yes, BB teams play more games, roughly 2x more. Many years, the CBB Champs have 3-5 losses. No way a team with even 2 losses in CFB is even considered to participate in the playoff.
One other huge thing is one player in basketball can make a team FF worthy overnight (Larry Bird, Carmelo Anthony, LeBron carrying a bunch of schmucks to the NBA Finals). An individual player in FB can be a difference maker but needs 21 other teammates who also play well. No FB player plays both ways so a single player only affects half the game.
Recruiting in football is harder because you have to recruit so many players and can't just rely on one or two to ensure you'll win a bunch of games. Much harder to be champions in football.
One other huge thing is one player in basketball can make a team FF worthy overnight (Larry Bird, Carmelo Anthony, LeBron carrying a bunch of schmucks to the NBA Finals). An individual player in FB can be a difference maker but needs 21 other teammates who also play well. No FB player plays both ways so a single player only affects half the game.
Recruiting in football is harder because you have to recruit so many players and can't just rely on one or two to ensure you'll win a bunch of games. Much harder to be champions in football.
Totally disagree. A HS kid is very open to suggestion. Hard enough to leave home but, now, he's got to listen to everyone in his ear repeat Cal's dumbass comments. Of course, he's heard a lot of this before but from rival programs trying to recruit against us, not from UK itself. I believe that's a big difference. It's a much bigger deal for the school itself to make the claim than for a rival school to make it against UK.
Agree to disagree. Player is not in contact with cal, he is in contact with the football staff and hearing the same message from them he has heard from the beginning. Who from KY is in his ear telling him otherwise? Reading a quote from the basketball coach that KY is a basketball school is no revelation. You mean to tell me he was all fired up and ready but now that cal has spoken he is going to change his mind and go elsewhere. 😂😂😂. Sorry just don’t buy it. If he goes to FSU thats because that’s where he was always going. If all it took was Cals comment to make him not want to play here then good riddance, he would be too soft to play anyway. Not the case though!!!!
You don't have to wait till Monday. JR said they know he won't be here. It's why he flipped his future cast. He said Anglin and Kirkland could have been either or. Either Kirkland is committing to FSU
Whether it's intelligent or not, my take: A much larger percentage of basketball fans have no direct attachment to UK. For them, UK hoops is their pro team. Odds of a person wearing a UK hoops shirt not having attended UK is much higher than for football. OTOH, most anyone interested in UK football attended UK or had a close relative that did. My son attended a college that didn't have a FB team & he follows UK closely.
To the idiot who said Stoops has missed the postseason 100% of the time. You do realize you have to go undefeated, win or be close to winning the sec championship game and then win the playoffs. Since the SEC wins the national championship every year, you basically have to win it twice: win the SEC regular season or championship game and then win the playoff.
Yet it's easier to win a FB championship 😂. Kansas won it this year over UNC and mid season they both sucked. UK destroyed both of them. They wouldn't have made the FB playoff. No comparison
Outside of Indiana the other schools are one more conference alignment away of being out in the cold and being a division two school..
