Barnhart prioritizing Drew over Donovan per Matt Jones
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Matt Jones is clueless on what's going on like everyone else. He is not on speed dial with Barney.
No reason to believe it may not happen. Why start off so negative?
Yeah he's had 15 seasons at Baylor with double digit losses.
Donovan on Kentucky opening: Committed to Bulls
Billy Donovan said he's not had any contact with Kentucky about its coaching vacancy and reiterated his commitment to the Bulls on Tuesday.
Just depends on if Donovan could start early enough IMO. Hopefully it doesn’t get past number 1. I wish Barnhart would look at Oats as well hard. I’d put him at 2.
How many times has he been conference champions in the big 12? Where has his teams ranked in the big 12? How many losses has his team had each of the last 2 years? How many times has he been to the 2nd weekend of NCAA tourn the last 3years? Answer these questions and see how he stacks up because that is what you get from him in the sec if he is hired. Happy with Drew now?
Could Donovan not just say peace out and the Bulls have an interim? I know it’s not ideal but that’s just how this stuff goes
Exactly.I didn't give Cal a pass for his shitty seasons so why do it for another coach?
Im sure he could do it but it would likely cost him a lot of money to break his contract and do so.
If he's the guy he'll do fine.
It's pretty obvious many of you want a governor not a basketball coach.
It's pretty obvious many of you want a governor not a basketball coach.
I still believe you ask Hurley what it takes and get as close as you can to meeting it. If he’s dead set on nothing that can pry him away then you go after Oats, and even a Tommy Lloyd in my opinion. Someone young who’s just getting started. Don’t commit to Drew just because. I will say that Drew did recruit Jayden Quaintance so he may stay here, Reed could be consulted to see what he thinks if he wants to return, we may snag VJ Edgecomb since we recruited him too. He’s got a couple other 5 stars committed and maybe brings a couple of his best Baylor guys with him? That’s something to consider for next year.
If the Bulls will move on from him anyway, which reports say their star players would like after this year then they could give him permission to leave and let an assistant run it thru the play in game.
Piss off dude. I'm not arguing with with a douche bag who says a person they don't know is stupid or uninformed. You don't know a damn thing about me. So seriously, feel free to puck off.
That is a legit concern, I’d love him but I don’t know if he would do well in this era. I still have no idea why Mitch isn’t reportedly going after guys like Oats, Lloyd, Otzelburger. All young guys with decent success very early in their careers.
He’s using this for views and radio traffic. Why wouldn’t he? Is the craziest thing that has happened in 15 years here or at least since 2015.
Drew should never ever be offered before Billy Donovan. That is absolutely absurd if true
They were Big 12 champs in 2021, co-champs with KU in 2022, and National Champs in 2021. That's in the last 4 seasons.
Right now, we essentially have 0 players for next year.
If you wait on Donovan, especially if the Bulls go to May, there is a very real possibility that the players then available may not be good enough to get into the tournament at all.
Drew gives you a very real possibility of having 3 or so top 30 freshman and 3-5 of the better players in the portal. That would be enough talent to field a team that could make an Elite 8.
Shocking how many people on here do not understand this basic fact of the matter. Even if we get Donovan, which is highly unlikely, it would be one year of "Pitinos Bombinos" (at best, those guys were the best 14-14 team ever) before we could really make a run at anything.
If Hurley says no you have to offer Billy Donovan before Scott Drew.
Fair enough. There have been tons of stupider stuff posted, but can we both agree that it was stupid?
Drew now or Billy D later. I am fine with either. I feel both are capable.
Drew will bring a lot of the #3 recruiting class with him and can get in now and hit portal. It would be interesting to see what he could do with UKs brand.
Donovan basically would have a rebuild year since he would be late but I like his style so it be might be worth a down year but that could cost you momentum. No telling who you might get late and who would stick around.
All the people upset over the rejection years ago do not take it personally and things change.
Drew will bring a lot of the #3 recruiting class with him and can get in now and hit portal. It would be interesting to see what he could do with UKs brand.
Donovan basically would have a rebuild year since he would be late but I like his style so it be might be worth a down year but that could cost you momentum. No telling who you might get late and who would stick around.
All the people upset over the rejection years ago do not take it personally and things change.
Idc about the nba. Youre the only person I’ve ever seen in my life say he wasn’t a good coach.
Don’t forget the 2000 Final Four. (Runner-Up) which is also the last time a Big 10 team won the National Title. (Michigan State and beloved March grinder, Tommy Izzo.)
you’re an absolute idiot if you believe he wouldn’t kill again at the college level
Where did this narrative I'm seeing come from that Donovan "caught lightning in a bottle" or "had one great recruiting class?" Donovan went to 4 Final Fours (out of Florida's 5 total), 7 Elite 8s (out of Florida's 9 total), 8 sweet 16s (out of Florida's 11 total). He won 6 SEC titles (out of Florida's 7 total) and 4 SEC tournament titles (the only 4 Florida has). Florida had only made the tournament 5 times before Donovan, they were a nothing program (yes they had 1 FF in the early 90s but quickly collapsed back to sub-.500).
There are other reasons you might give to not have him high on your list - the two times he said no, his time away from college and recruiting, his age (he'd be 59 at the start of next season, I'd prefer someone younger with more years ahead of them). But I'd definitely be happy if he were our coach. He took a nonexistent basketball program and for a decade and a half had them as a contender year in and year out.
This is a thought I had. If Quaintance would stay along with a few recruits from Baylor. Add Sheppard and you could possibly keep Theiro/Z. Would it be worse the risk on waiting on a coach like Donovan?
IMO Drew could do what Brooks is doing for the Women’s program as far as putting a competitive team together very quickly. The question is whether UK fans are willing to suffer 1 or 2 really down years (possibly be one of the worst in the SEC) and wait for Donovan to put a real team together and maybe reach heights that Drew wouldn’t? Is it right now or 3 years down the road that the fans want?
