Banchero final 6

[ZaytovenCat]

Can you list any examples?

Boston? Clarke?

You knew what he meant but changed the narrative to try and make him look wrong. He definitely has a point, atleast with kids in the last handful of years. The ones that draw things out and keep cutting down their list but leave us on it normally go elsewhere. Ones that actually want to come here don’t play the list game near as much.

 

[STL_Cat]

Yeah, I don’t recall too many guys committing to us recently after releasing lost after list of their “final10! Final6! Final3! Final2!” TD guys that commit to UK usually do it pretty early on and without a whole lot of hoopla. Which I appreciate.

I guess it’s better to be in the final 6 than not. I won’t hold my breath.

 

[Cawood86]

Way too far away on this one even to give any time to what will happen. It will likely be next spring.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Boston? Clarke?

You knew what he meant but changed the narrative to try and make him look wrong. He definitely has a point, atleast with kids in the last handful of years. The ones that draw things out and keep cutting down their list but leave us on it normally go elsewhere. Ones that actually want to come here don’t play the list game near as much.

Clarke cut his list.. seems like a bad example of naming a player who didn't have a list and just committed out the blue. https://247sports.com/college/baske...llege-Duke-Memphis-Texas-Tech-UCLA-134938112/

 

[SDcatfan13]

Kentucky seems to have trended toward more earlier commitments in recent years, but Knox is another one I can remember with a lot of hoopla.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Yeah, I don’t recall too many guys committing to us recently after releasing lost after list of their “final10! Final6! Final3! Final2!” TD guys that commit to UK usually do it pretty early on and without a whole lot of hoopla. Which I appreciate.

I guess it’s better to be in the final 6 than not. I won’t hold my breath.

https://247sports.com/college/baske...llege-Duke-Memphis-Texas-Tech-UCLA-134938112/

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Clarke cut his list.. seems like a bad example of naming a player who didn't have a list and just committed out the blue. https://247sports.com/college/baske...llege-Duke-Memphis-Texas-Tech-UCLA-134938112/

It’s not so much about one list. It’s the cutting of multiple lists and drawing it out.

 

[rockout1]

Let me be the first to say it, Banchero and Chandler will play at Kentucky in 2021-22.

I hope they don’t play together because if they do it will be at Duke. Chandler is not going anywhere but Duke.

 

[RunninRichie]

Let me be the first to say it, Banchero and Chandler will play at Kentucky in 2021-22.

What has your source said GBB712?

 

[Baller Cal]

Clarke cut his list.. seems like a bad example of naming a player who didn't have a list and just committed out the blue. https://247sports.com/college/baske...llege-Duke-Memphis-Texas-Tech-UCLA-134938112/

Good to see he CUT his list, as I said, and chose UK. Look at my very 1st post.. CUT. Then look where I said I could be completely wrong but it seems like we've faired poorly more than good with players that CUT lists. Glad to be wrong if that's not the case.

 

[GoBigBlue712]

What has your source said GBB712?

He’s given a positive outlook on both. Likely not committing for awhile so a lot could change though.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Good to see he CUT his list, as I said, and chose UK. Look at my very 1st post.. CUT. Then look where I said I could be completely wrong but it seems like we've faired poorly more than good with players that CUT lists. Glad to be wrong if that's not the case.

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, now as Gonzo asked, please list some players who never dropped a list to cut and just committed to UK never considering any other schools.

 

[LowCountryCat]

I am asking you for examples of "us doing better with kids who don't cut their lists." That's what you said.

Thousands of kids commit every year that cut their list, obviously you can name an infinite number that we don't get. Kids like Brown and Green have us listed even if we don't recruit them.

So again, I'm asking for you to list the kids we have landed that didn't cut their list to make you claim that you think we do better with them. Can you give a single one or do you just want to be shitty and petulant for no reason?

Actually that’s not what he said. At best you twisted his words and at worst you erected a straw man in order to “shut down that nonsense.”

 

[Baller Cal]

Thanks for admitting you were wrong, now as Gonzo asked, please list some players who never dropped a list to cut and just committed to UK never considering any other schools.

Ummm no, you providing one example doesn't prove I was wrong about us fairing worse when players cut their list than better. Please provide every single player that had UK on its list, cut that list, and ultimately chose another school OR chose UK. Since I was the 1st to ask the question, I'll need you to do some research while I hold your beer. PS, who's Gonzo?

 

[HoldMyBeer]

It’s not so much about one list. It’s the cutting of multiple lists and drawing it out.

What is our success rate when a kid "cuts his list" and has us on it instead of just committing to UK without a list? Seems like it's a terrible success rate, but who knows.

Read the comment you are defending. Says nothing about 100 cuts. The context of this particular situation is UK being in a top 6 list for PB.. Same as Clarke, whom you listed as not ever having a list when in actuality HE DID. AND CHOSE UK.

 

[Baller Cal]

Read the comment you are defending. Says nothing about 100 cuts. The context of this particular situation is UK being in a top 6 list for PB.. Same as Clarke, whom you listed as not ever having a list when in actuality HE DID. AND CHOSE UK.

What are you talking about? I never listed Clarke as never having a list. I'm not going to play your little game of "I'm right, you're wrong and I'm going to make stuff up to prove it." Childish.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Ummm no, you providing one example doesn't prove I was wrong about us fairing worse when players cut their list than better. Please provide every single player that had UK on its list, cut that list, and ultimately chose another school OR chose UK. Since I was the 1st to ask the question, I'll need you to do some research while I hold your beer. PS, who's Gonzo?

I already provided one, we're waiting on YOU to provide ONE since you are the person with the hypothesis that we dont do good on list vs kids just committing no list (which I can't think of ANY 5 star player doing under Cal). Did you mean Walkons?

 

[HoldMyBeer]

What are you talking about? I never listed Clarke as never having a list. I'm not going to play your little game of "I'm right, you're wrong and I'm going to make stuff up to prove it." Childish.

Are you Zaytoven? Is that your 2nd account? I'm talking to HIM... Atleast I thought

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

look at the list........ kids not coming to UK when 3 of those schools are known for giving bonu$$e$

 

[Baller Cal]

Here's 3 that I've provided now, 2 in the last week. LOL.

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Five-Star Center Mohamed Bamba Trims List Of Schools

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Read the comment you are defending. Says nothing about 100 cuts. The context of this particular situation is UK being in a top 6 list for PB.. Same as Clarke, whom you listed as not ever having a list when in actuality HE DID. AND CHOSE UK.

It’s clear as day what Baller meant by “cut his list.” I’m evidently not the only one who understood what he meant judging by other posts as well. I don’t know if youre just white knighting Gonzo or want to argue but I don’t about either so I’m not going back and forth.

 

[Baller Cal]

@HoldMyBeer

"Kerry Blackshear cuts list......stay tuned."

"Anthony Edwards trims list and UK makes the cut".....

"Luke Kennard cuts list to 7"

RJ Hampton

Cade Cunningham

Wiseman

On and On. See ya. Hey, you dropped that beer you were holding.....on your head.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

so are you guys saying there is a conspiracy in the recruiting world where everyone that cuts their list a few times has no intent of going to UK?

 

[HoldMyBeer]

It’s clear as day what Baller meant by “cut his list.” I’m evidently not the only one who understood what he meant judging by other posts as well. I don’t know if youre just white knighting Gonzo or want to argue but I don’t about either so I’m not going back and forth.

He said "cut his list", like Clarke "cut his list" and more importantly he said "instead of just committing to UK WITHOUT A LIST".. YOU are the one adding numerous list cutting.. Again, where are all these UK commits who didn't make a list to cut?

 

[Baller Cal]

so are you guys saying there is a conspiracy in the recruiting world where everyone that cuts their list a few times has no intent of going to UK?

No, I was simply wondering if we faired better or worse when players CUT their list as it seems worse. I don't know the answer and was asking the question. The reply from a few was to get defensive, not answer the question and ask a different one.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

"Kerry Blackshear cuts list......stay tuned."

"Anthony Edwards trims list and UK makes the cut".....

"Luke Kennard cuts list to 7"

RJ Hampton

Cade Cunningham

Wiseman

On and On. See ya. Hey, you dropped that beer you were holding.....on your head.

Still waiting on you to name 1 who NEVER MADE A LIST and just committed to UK.. You are evading that key aspect. All top players make list/cut. UK does well with those contrary to the narrative you tryna push.

 

[JFCats22]

It’s clear as day what Baller meant by “cut his list.” I’m evidently not the only one who understood what he meant judging by other posts as well. I don’t know if youre just white knighting Gonzo or want to argue but I don’t about either so I’m not going back and forth.

I don't get it. What player has committed without cutting his list?

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

No, I was simply wondering if we faired better or worse when players CUT their list as it seems worse. I don't know the answer and was asking the question. The reply from a few was to get defensive, not answer the question and ask a different one.

any statistic you could come up with would have no bearing on a future recruits pick whether he cut the list or not. knowing which teams have been shown to pay money to recruits.... you can actually tell what chance we have by what other teams are on their lists..... like with banchero... arizona, washington and duke........ half his list are teams willing to pay money..... meaning our odds arent looking so hot.

 

[Baller Cal]

Kentucky seems to have trended toward more earlier commitments in recent years, but Knox is another one I can remember with a lot of hoopla.

Agree. Seems like we get them more than not when they know UK is where they want to be early, instead of dragging it out.

 

[GonzoCat90]

I love a good double down instead of just owning a bad take.

 

[Fox2monk]

Right, and I'm asking for examples of what you're talking about. I can't think of a kid who committed anywhere that didn't have a list of some sort.

Maybe Wiltjer? Who else are you thinking of?

I think he just means UK was a top option, fast list cut and commit early for our best guys. The top 10’a that start at 20, then “cut” to 10, then a final six and hold out till the end we don’t pick up very many.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Actually that’s not what he said. At best you twisted his words and at worst you erected a straw man in order to “shut down that nonsense.”

He said we fare better with kids who don't cut their list. I asked for an example. Explain how I twisted his words or built a straw man.

 

[GonzoCat90]

I think he just means UK was a top option, fast list cut and commit early for our best guys. The top 10’a that start at 20, then “cut” to 10, then a final six and hold out till the end we don’t pick up very many.

He was pretty adamant and childish about what he said. If he wanted to correct or soften it, he could have. He decided not to, so I'll assume he meant what he said.

 

[Baller Cal]

I think he just means UK was a top option, fast list cut and commit early for our best guys. The top 10’a that start at 20, then “cut” to 10, then a final six and hold out till the end we don’t pick up very many.

Thanks. They understood it like you did but want to play “gotcha!”

 

[bigblue1971]

I hope they don’t play together because if they do it will be at Duke. Chandler is not going anywhere but Duke.

If Chandler goes to Duke then Roach goes NBA or G League. I can't see both of them in the backcourt together. Also Duke probably returns Coleman Brakefield and possibly Williams in the frontcourt and are supposed frontrunners for Baldwin.

 

[GonzoCat90]

A dozen posts without a single example that fits the criteria is pretty good evidence it wasn't just a "gotcha."

Just say it was a bad take and that you were a dick. Or keep digging. But for future reference if someone asks if you can support your theory and you get angry, it's probably a bad theory.

 

[Fox2monk]

Thanks. They understood it like you did but want to play “gotcha!”

That’s what I got from the post at least. I didn’t see a hint of trying to even get defensive about it either but idk.

 

[DeerTurkHunter1]

If Chandler goes to Duke then Roach goes NBA or G League. I can't see both of them in the backcourt together. Also Duke probably returns Coleman Brakefield and possibly Williams in the frontcourt and are supposed frontrunners for Baldwin.

Roach is 20/Chandler is 21

 

[Smashcat]

PB states again he's not reclassifying. Good long Q&A.

 

[BassProCat]

I have no dog in this fight but did Boston have a list? Seems like he visited UK and committed out of the blue(haha no pun intended)

EDIT-someone already mentioned Boston but dont think anyone clarified if he had a list.