Early on I really thought we would get Newman and Zimmerman.One didn't work out and it just seems Newman's last interviews weren't looking good for UK.It's a shame because this kid is special and could make us a Final 4 favorite but it just seems like he will go to Mississippi State.
Are you holding out much hope for Newman?
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Obviously this is just my opinion and it could be way off, but I believe Newman wants to be the man wherever he goes, he also wants to play PG. I doubt he takes that spot from Ulis, I think he goes elsewhere.
I still am a little bit. Not confidently, mind you.
But somewhere in the back of my mind I just keep saying that eventually common sense has to win out. A light bulb goes on and he realizes he's one of the three best players in America and is about to go throw his one year of college away losing 16 games and no one caring about his existence outside of the scouts forced to watch Bulldog games to see him play.
But somewhere in the back of my mind I just keep saying that eventually common sense has to win out. A light bulb goes on and he realizes he's one of the three best players in America and is about to go throw his one year of college away losing 16 games and no one caring about his existence outside of the scouts forced to watch Bulldog games to see him play.
I think we land Mulder, most likely land Diallo, and the big three of Brown, Ingram, and Newman are completely unpredictable.
If we can get one of those unpredictable class I think it's a title-contending roster.
If we can get one of those unpredictable class I think it's a title-contending roster.
Not really.I've watched him play for several years and think he will be special but just don't have the feeling he will be here.Diallo is really the only one I think we have a good chance at. And Mulder seems very likely.
This post was edited on 4/20 6:54 PM by ukmelanie
This post was edited on 4/20 6:54 PM by ukmelanie
Very little. I feel like we have a shot a finishing with Diallo and Mulder, possibly one other suprise.
Nope, I think the people in his camp are more than okay with letting him toil away in SEC West mediocrity.
Not worried about any of it. You have no bearing on their decision and nothing you can do is gonna change it.
I know some think they are all coming here as I've read plenty of comments in the past on how they are. Somebody else worries about them coming here then right after you will read "don't even worry Newman is a lock" don't worry Brown is coming here or Zimmerman is UK bound just waiting on for the scholly to open up.
As you see all those guys proclaiming that so and so is coming are full of it! After talking with Wiggins crew when he was just beginning his senior year of HS I knew right then and their he was not coming to UK. This was before he stated that he wanted to hear from other schools. Reason why?? He was being pestered to death when he moved down here by UK fans wanting him to come play here. If fans would have just left him alone and quite bugging him so much he would have been a cat even with his hosts whispering in his ear on how they don't like UK.
I posted time and time again on how in his games just go watch him play but do not pesture him on autographs or pics.
But nope fans were just so stupid about it they drove him away. Some guys like the attention and others do not, need to let those who do not want the attention to have their space. And that means to not go and start licking his door handles to show your affection.
I know some think they are all coming here as I've read plenty of comments in the past on how they are. Somebody else worries about them coming here then right after you will read "don't even worry Newman is a lock" don't worry Brown is coming here or Zimmerman is UK bound just waiting on for the scholly to open up.
As you see all those guys proclaiming that so and so is coming are full of it! After talking with Wiggins crew when he was just beginning his senior year of HS I knew right then and their he was not coming to UK. This was before he stated that he wanted to hear from other schools. Reason why?? He was being pestered to death when he moved down here by UK fans wanting him to come play here. If fans would have just left him alone and quite bugging him so much he would have been a cat even with his hosts whispering in his ear on how they don't like UK.
I posted time and time again on how in his games just go watch him play but do not pesture him on autographs or pics.
But nope fans were just so stupid about it they drove him away. Some guys like the attention and others do not, need to let those who do not want the attention to have their space. And that means to not go and start licking his door handles to show your affection.
Would love to have Newman at UK but, honestly, only holding out small hope that he will come here. I'm basing this only on what I've read about him and some things he has said in interviews, etc. Sounds like he definitely wants to be a PG and that won't be happening here with the other two good PG's we already have. Plus, it sounds like he wants to score as much as he can and play as much as he can so I'm thinking he may end up at MSU. Of course, that is all just pure opinion on my part but I guess that's what the OP asked us for.
All that I know I learn on this forum, but it seems we are losing steam and with Howland at State he is needing to score a big recruit now, I would say thats where he will land. He can go there and play all he wants too and put his season in and move on. If I were in that position I think I would want to go somewhere would have a chance of playing in the final four....you never know some of these kids may not like to play with some of the others plus with all the adult pressure for them to do this or that it is probably mind boggling.
I do not post very often at all but Newman worries me. If all the talk about him wanting the ball is true it could be bad for team chemistry. No chemistry no championship.. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to have him because we all know if Cal has a bench he can change attitudes. I don't know the kid so who knows if he could be a team player or not as lots has also been said about lack of quality surrounding him on his high school team may have placed him in the situation by default.
I cannot think of anything that would worry me about Cal and recruiting. Be patient.
Better chance to land maker, Ingram or Diallo IMO. I really think ingram shocks the world and picks UK. Just a guess
I think if he was coming here he would have announced soon after the Harrisons and Booker
decided to enter the draft. Cats will probably get
Moulder and the guards will be set for next year.
decided to enter the draft. Cats will probably get
Moulder and the guards will be set for next year.
I've alluded to it in other threads:
Newman wants to run the point. Not play the two.
His comments over and over have stated this . He wants one and done and has stated this as well.
This is not "guaranteed" at Kentucky.
Give Cal credit for recruiting character as much as talent.
Newman won't play at UK..
Newman wants to run the point. Not play the two.
His comments over and over have stated this . He wants one and done and has stated this as well.
This is not "guaranteed" at Kentucky.
Give Cal credit for recruiting character as much as talent.
Newman won't play at UK..
Newman wants to be an NBA point guard?
Doesn't he realize that in order to do that, at some point you have to pass the ball?
He's a scorer. Why can't he embrace that? There's 12 to 15 shots/game waiting for him at Kentucky.
This post was edited on 4/20 9:36 PM by Son_Of_Saul
Doesn't he realize that in order to do that, at some point you have to pass the ball?
He's a scorer. Why can't he embrace that? There's 12 to 15 shots/game waiting for him at Kentucky.
This post was edited on 4/20 9:36 PM by Son_Of_Saul
I get that he wants to be "the man" and if he goes to Miss St. that's what he'll be.. For one year.. Then he'll go pro and won't know how to handle not being "The Man". That's why playing at Ky gets you ready. Your on a team learning to play with a bunch of other players that are as elite as you. Your under the pressure to win just like the NBA. Your on TV every night, just like the NBA. A player like Newman going to Miss St. is not a wise business decision.
I do think the Platoon System may have hurt recruiting this year. Elite players want minutes, they want to be showcased and have impressive stats..
We'll have to see how this all plays out.. It's interesting to see how this all unfolds..
This post was edited on 4/20 9:51 PM by cal=8
I do think the Platoon System may have hurt recruiting this year. Elite players want minutes, they want to be showcased and have impressive stats..
We'll have to see how this all plays out.. It's interesting to see how this all unfolds..
This post was edited on 4/20 9:51 PM by cal=8
Yes plenty . I think we have a better shot then most . I think our chances with Ingram are being overplayed here and our chances with Newman are being down played big time. But that is one man's opinion .
It's kinda like the Twins going to Maryland.. I was thinking theres no way they go there.. I can't believe a guy as good as Newman would go to State.. I mean, I get that Howland's there and he'd be the point but Miss State! Who else are they bringing in? It's not an assist if you don't have the cast to finish the play..
From a business standpoint it's a bad call.. Come to KY Newman and you'll be where you belong.. In the company of greatness!
This post was edited on 4/20 10:14 PM by cal=8
I always find it comical
If We're getting a guy: Cal develops players. He manages egos. He'll get that ball hog mentality in check.
If we're not: He's a cancer. Chemistry killer. Don't want him, etc.
If We're getting a guy: Cal develops players. He manages egos. He'll get that ball hog mentality in check.
If we're not: He's a cancer. Chemistry killer. Don't want him, etc.
For some reason I think we either get Newman or he heads overseas for a year. I dont see enough talent at Miss ST to make him look good as a PG. He could still get some PG minutes at UK, Booker brought the ball up a few times last season.
The vast majority on this board have NOT said that Newman is "a cancer" or a "chemistry killer" or that we "don't want him."
I'm willing to presume that Newman is a young man of high character, and that his motivations are as pure as the driven snow. But the fact is that Newman unquestionably wants to play point guard in his one season of college basketball, and -- whatever else might happen if Newman came to U.K. -- THAT is NOT going to happen, in significant minutes, with both Ulis and Briscoe on the team.
That -- and that alone -- is why Newman won't be at Kentucky. That doesn't make him "a cancer" or a "chemistry killer", etc., etc.
Where he does end up, and why, are questions that are outside the purview of this thread -- and I don't have any idea about either of those questions if they were on point.
Just MHO, of course.
I'm willing to presume that Newman is a young man of high character, and that his motivations are as pure as the driven snow. But the fact is that Newman unquestionably wants to play point guard in his one season of college basketball, and -- whatever else might happen if Newman came to U.K. -- THAT is NOT going to happen, in significant minutes, with both Ulis and Briscoe on the team.
That -- and that alone -- is why Newman won't be at Kentucky. That doesn't make him "a cancer" or a "chemistry killer", etc., etc.
Where he does end up, and why, are questions that are outside the purview of this thread -- and I don't have any idea about either of those questions if they were on point.
Just MHO, of course.
What does the platoon system have to do with next season? Currently, UK has two projects on the wing in Matthews and Hawkins. That means 12 to 15 shots/game await Newman if he comes to UK.
Am I missing something?
Maybe that's why all these kids are waiting. They're making sure there's no log jam at their position..
I'm sure it's used as a recruiting tool from opposing team too..
Also, maybe you answered your own question.. PT at the wing.. Newman may not want to play the wing or play limited mins along with Ulis at the point..
I think Newman would start at the two and back up Ulis at point while Briscoe and Matthews handle the 3 spot..
Ulis--- Newman--
Newman --- Briscoe
Briscoe and Matthews
Poythress and Diallo
Skal and Lee
This post was edited on 4/20 11:57 PM by cal=8
I'm just not too high on his attitude. Starting to remind me a lot of Wiggins and how we thought he was about 95% locked and then dropped the bomb that he was committing to Kansas. The way this is shaping up, I'm pretty sure he's going somewhere else. Wouldn't shock me to see him go to LSU, Kansas or even Mississippi State at this point.
Frankly, if we land any 1 of Ingram, Murray or Brown, I think we would be fine without him. We already have a pretty solid backcourt with Ulis, Briscoe and Matthews along with Hawkins and Floreal. I'm really hoping to see Willis get more quality minutes and show what he is capable of. I would like to see his defense improve a lot (that is key to him earning quality minutes).
While that seems to be what everyone is saying lately, why didn't he just eliminate UK a long time ago? Pretty much everyone knew Ulis would be back and Briscoe has been committed for months. I have no idea what Newman will do, but I don't buy the wanting to play PG argument for why he won't want to come here because he would have eliminated us months ago.
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