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I won't link the article because it doesnt deserve hits, but the ending quote was. "Nowadays the only program that can target any player and be guaranteed to sign them is duke."

How comical the media is trying so hard to give them everything ...sorry yahoo, Cal is still recruiting king and to even argue it is showing your bias.
 
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Not taking anything away from K, but he still hasnt surpassed Cals recruiting

And you definitely won't see the ringing college ball argument, as said above
 
There sure has been a lot of nonsense about Duke on this board lately. I'm not sure why, but so many threads about a team that UK still has 3 more titles than.
 
There are 25- Five Star players. There are enough to go around. Not sure why everyone is freaking out about Duke getting their share. We can't get em all. Relax.
 
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I hate it all because it is true. You can come up with all the rationalizations you want, but Duke is the top program at the present time. Kentucky seemed to take over that roll when Cal came on board and especially after the Davis championship team. It should have been our year this year. Duke stole it and that continues to hurt.

Again, come up with all the rationalizations you want, how we have been to all the final fours, etc. We had an undefeated team that everyone was talking about, two teams that were supposedly better than anyone else's one team, but with the Duke championship they stole our ring, our thunder, and put themselves back as the elite college basketball program. Before then, they were running at our heels, now we are the ones nipping at them. We can change this of course by winning a championship again. Both programs will continue to get elite recruits and it will take some luck for either program (no injuries, off the court issues, a surprise how some particular player excels, etc.) to end the season on top.
 
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Worst possible scenario for UK. UK loses out on the title and coach phony wins it with OAD's. Now, another coach has proven to be able to do it with OAD's and he's the media darling who will get all the help he needs from them. Suck up articles that kiss his butt more than Wojo has.

I still can't believe there were people on here glad he won. That school makes me sick and he's a bigger phony than Pitino IMO. I can't stomach him. If he's on a channel I immediately turn.
 
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Grayson Allen is being built up to be some great player, which he is not, just because he scored a bunch of points in the Finals. I didn't watch the game, I'm sure he played great but I'm not sold on him and Kennard being a consistent dynamic scoring duo like Duke fans are expecting. Allen is more athletic than Kennard, and honestly Kennard looked out of place as a McDAA. Murray and Briscoe are going to show these guys up. I think people are expecting Kennard to put up 12+ ppg, he will against lower competition but I think he will struggle against high level competition as a freshman.

I think Thornton may be or may have to be their best guard. I really like Thornton, I think he projects to the NBA better than Tyus Jones as a prospect. He is certainly more gifted athletically and physically, but Jones came in knowing how to run an offense and knew pretty far in advance who he would be playing with. Thornton has a lot more to learn than Jones, he will struggle early but he will come along by March I would imagine.

No one talks about how they haven't replaced Justise Winslow and Jahlil Okafor by the way. Chase Jeter and Sean Obi are not equal to Jahlil Okafor. The jury is really still out on both of those guys, I've never sean Obi play and Jeter just didn't strike me as a 5 star guy. Obi put up solid numbers at Rice but can he match that production at Duke? Plumlee is just a tall body. Amile Jefferson is very good, but he is going to have to be out of this world great this coming season. Duke has some frontcourt depth but the quality is still highly questionable at this point.

Unless I'm missing someone, there doesn't seem to be a replacement for Winslow. Kennard may be able to match his scoring, but he cannot even begin to do what Winslow did for Duke's defense this season. This team looks a lot more like a first weekend loss kind of team for Coach K. Now if they add Giles with Tatum and return their backcourt, obviously they are a contender again, but I don't see a repeat on the horizon for them this season or anything close to it really. I will be openly rooting for them to go to the NIT. It has happened to other teams after winning a Championship, we know it's happened here, it can happen at Duke.
 
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Kentucky's last two recruiting classes were at least as equal to Duke, if not better. The Towns-Lyles-Booker-Ulis class is just as legitimate as the Okafor class, and the Murray/Skal/Briscoe/Matthews/Mulder group is on par with the Thornton/Ingram/Jeter/Kennard/Obi class.

Not sure why that writer would utilize hyperbole like that. Just ignorant.
 
UK has three AA point guards. Duke has one, no back up and only a freshman. I like our chances.
 
OSOK said:
UK has three AA point guards. Duke has one, no back up and only a freshman. I like our chances.
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Duke will go as far an Ingram takes them this season. They have good guards, but feeding Ingram is where their bread will be buttered all season.
 
Best thing about the One & Done after Coach K has got to the market those media witters will have to leave Coach Cal along.
 
Agree with you guys K is a liar, now he takes oad. That writer had to put my heels down, sick of this Duke crap, Ncaa needs to hurry up ether clear us or banned us, Duke took Ingram and Giles from us and Smith if they want him.
 
RamHard said:
Agree with you guys K is a liar, now he takes oad. That writer had to put my heels down, sick of this Duke crap, Ncaa needs to hurry up ether clear us or banned us, Duke took Ingram and Giles from us and Smith if they want him.
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uk78 said:
I hate it all because it is true. You can come up with all the rationalizations you want, but Duke is the top program at the present time. Kentucky seemed to take over that roll when Cal came on board and especially after the Davis championship team. It should have been our year this year. Duke stole it and that continues to hurt.

Again, come up with all the rationalizations you want, how we have been to all the final fours, etc. We had an undefeated team that everyone was talking about, two teams that were supposedly better than anyone else's one team, but with the Duke championship they stole our ring, our thunder, and put themselves back as the elite college basketball program. Before then, they were running at our heels, now we are the ones nipping at them. We can change this of course by winning a championship again. Both programs will continue to get elite recruits and it will take some luck for either program (no injuries, off the court issues, a surprise how some particular player excels, etc.) to end the season on top.
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Some people need to develop a life outside of UK basketball. The desperation in your post isn't healthy.
 
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Irishcat, if that is your picture, you can personally help me with my big... problem.
 
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Shoot I forgot about Ingram, he is a pretty viable replacement for Winslow and he will keep them from the NIT. Still no replacement for Okafor though.
 
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Grayson Allen is being built up to be some great player, which he is not, just because he scored a bunch of points in the Finals. I didn't watch the game, I'm sure he played great but I'm not sold on him and Kennard being a consistent dynamic scoring duo like Duke fans are expecting. Allen is more athletic than Kennard, and honestly Kennard looked out of place as a McDAA. Murray and Briscoe are going to show these guys up. I think people are expecting Kennard to put up 12+ ppg, he will against lower competition but I think he will struggle against high level competition as a freshman.

I think Thornton may be or may have to be their best guard. I really like Thornton, I think he projects to the NBA better than Tyus Jones as a prospect. He is certainly more gifted athletically and physically, but Jones came in knowing how to run an offense and knew pretty far in advance who he would be playing with. Thornton has a lot more to learn than Jones, he will struggle early but he will come along by March I would imagine.

No one talks about how they haven't replaced Justise Winslow and Jahlil Okafor by the way. Chase Jeter and Sean Obi are not equal to Jahlil Okafor. The jury is really still out on both of those guys, I've never sean Obi play and Jeter just didn't strike me as a 5 star guy. Obi put up solid numbers at Rice but can he match that production at Duke? Plumlee is just a tall body. Amile Jefferson is very good, but he is going to have to be out of this world great this coming season. Duke has some frontcourt depth but the quality is still highly questionable at this point.

Unless I'm missing someone, there doesn't seem to be a replacement for Winslow. Kennard may be able to match his scoring, but he cannot even begin to do what Winslow did for Duke's defense this season. This team looks a lot more like a first weekend loss kind of team for Coach K. Now if they add Giles with Tatum and return their backcourt, obviously they are a contender again, but I don't see a repeat on the horizon for them this season or anything close to it really. I will be openly rooting for them to go to the NIT. It has happened to other teams after winning a Championship, we know it's happened here, it can happen at Duke.
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Kennard isn't even going to start this year, so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say we expect him and Allen to be a "dynamic scoring duo." And you really think Kennard looked out of place in the McDAA game? Really dude?



Not to mention that Kennard easily won the McDAA 3-point contest. Let's just ignore that, and the fact that he was actually really good in the actual game. We'll go with your opinion that he was "out of place." I'm sure you would think that if Kennard had committed to Kentucky, which he could have done.

And yeah dude, we all realize that Jeter and Obi aren't going to be as good as Okafor. That's ok though, because we don't have to have a center like Okafor to win a title. We won the national title in 2010 with Brian Zoubek at center. And there's this kid named Brandon Ingram who's a versatile forward like Winslow, he'll help us out this year. Maybe you've heard of him.

There is quite literally a 0% chance that we end up in the NIT this year. Grayson Allen will be our leading scorer and be a 1st round pick after this year. It's hilarious that you just discount Grayson Allen winning the game for Duke in the national title, like it was just nothing. Allen is going to explode this year. Him and Ingram will be our leading scorers. Guys like Matt Jones (who you also didn't even mention), Amile Jefferson, Luke Kennard, and the 3 centers Jeter, Obi, and Plumlee will be solid role players. That is a damn solid team, and it's not considerably worse on paper (if at all) than Kentucky's team. Unless you're completely blinded by your bias toward UK, which you are, it's basically splitting hairs between UK and Duke's rosters on paper going into next year.

Your post is filled with bias and bullshit rationalizations about Duke's players. Let me guess, you think Charles Matthews is severely underrated, while Chase Jeter just simply doesn't strike you as a 5-star player. That's very impartial thinking on your part, man. You come across as an idiot when you rationalize things like that. Just try and be honest with yourself, man.
 
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I said this back when Duke and WI played, that all the UK fans that are cheering for Duke are idiots. People were hurt because WI beat us, but cheering for Duke to win another title was just stupid. Not only are they closing the gap between us in titles faster than any other school it also gives K more momentum in recruiting. Looks like I was right about the recruiting part, and I would say they will have title # 6 come 2017 or at least I would bet on them like I would have on UK this year.
 
Nick, you guys lost 4 really good players that led you to a title. Yes you have a really good class coming in but none of those guys are like Okafor or Winslow.

You can't really say that there is 0% chance of Duke going to the NIT, look at 2013 when Noel got hurt. You never know what could happen, especially after a mass exodus of talent. Even UNC after winning their last title ended up in the NIT the following season, Florida went to the Final 4 and didn't even make the tournament this past year.

Duke will probably be good, but you never know what could happen. Your 85 pound small forward(ingram) could end up breaking his leg, things happen.
 
He can say Duke won't go to the NIT because do you really think the selection committee will do that? I mean this year they weren't the overall #1 seed and had the easiest road to the finals like always. Next year they will be a 1 seed somewhere close to NC.
 
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He can say Duke won't go to the NIT because do you really think the selection committee will do that? I mean this year they weren't the overall #1 seed and had the easiest road to the finals like always. Next year they will be a 1 seed somewhere close to NC.
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That's true lol
 
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Kennard isn't even going to start this year, so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say we expect him and Allen to be a "dynamic scoring duo." And you really think Kennard looked out of place in the McDAA game? Really dude?

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Not to mention that Kennard easily won the McDAA 3-point contest. Let's just ignore that, and the fact that he was actually really good in the actual game. We'll go with your opinion that he was "out of place." I'm sure you would think that if Kennard had committed to Kentucky, which he could have done.

And yeah dude, we all realize that Jeter and Obi aren't going to be as good as Okafor. That's ok though, because we don't have to have a center like Okafor to win a title. We won the national title in 2010 with Brian Zoubek at center. And there's this kid named Brandon Ingram who's a versatile forward like Winslow, he'll help us out this year. Maybe you've heard of him.

There is quite literally a 0% chance that we end up in the NIT this year. Grayson Allen will be our leading scorer and be a 1st round pick after this year. It's hilarious that you just discount Grayson Allen winning the game for Duke in the national title, like it was just nothing. Allen is going to explode this year. Him and Ingram will be our leading scorers. Guys like Matt Jones (who you also didn't even mention), Amile Jefferson, Luke Kennard, and the 3 centers Jeter, Obi, and Plumlee will be solid role players. That is a damn solid team, and it's not considerably worse on paper (if at all) than Kentucky's team. Unless you're completely blinded by your bias toward UK, which you are, it's basically splitting hairs between UK and Duke's rosters on paper going into next year.

Your post is filled with bias and bullshit rationalizations about Duke's players. Let me guess, you think Charles Matthews is severely underrated, while Chase Jeter just simply doesn't strike you as a 5-star player. That's very impartial thinking on your part, man. You come across as an idiot when you rationalize things like that. Just try and be honest with yourself, man.
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I guess you didn't see my other post where I mentioned I forgot Ingram. You and other Duke fans seem to think Allen will blow up based on 1 game. For most of last season he was a liability and barely played. I think he will have a good season and his numbers will be inflated because he will light up weak teams, but teams like UK and UNC will shut him down easily. Easily. By the way Nick, you are one of the most annoying 17 year olds on the internet. Why you spend as much time on this board as you do is beyond me. You really don't know much about the sport and you probably have absolutely zero connection to Duke in any way whatsoever. You definitely aren't smart enough to go to school there.
 
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He can say Duke won't go to the NIT because do you really think the selection committee will do that? I mean this year they weren't the overall #1 seed and had the easiest road to the finals like always. Next year they will be a 1 seed somewhere close to NC.
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He can say Duke won't go to the NIT because Duke never goes to the NIT. Pretty easy statement to make.
 
UKWildcats#8 said:
There sure has been a lot of nonsense about Duke on this board lately. I'm not sure why, but so many threads about a team that UK still has 3 more titles than.
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Did you read the article? If you did and can't see why it was discussed then I don't know. I basically screamed "we, yahop, love duke..."

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There are 25- Five Star players. There are enough to go around. Not sure why everyone is freaking out about Duke getting their share. We can't get em all. Relax.
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I agree, but the writer said that duke could if they wanted.
 
I could really care less about this article, no offense to OP though. We should stop talking about it so this random influx of Duke fans will go back to discussing Duke basketball with other Dukies.
 
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