Anyone concerned
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It all has to do with how we do on first down. If we only get 1-2 yards, Dawson and Towles appear to be uninterested in throwing deep, lest UK risk a sack or turnover. With Horton injured, our pass blocking wasn't looking all that great in the second half.
Did you lose money on the game bro? Or is Irishcat right and your last two weeks have been awful?
Conrad lines up in the backfield to balance the defensive alignment and keep pressure off of our freshman RT. Overloading the edge against our tackles causes problems and amplifies our weaknesses. The TE may release through the middle and catch balls in the second level as the OL improves.
IMO running the ball on 1st down and getting 2 yards is not bad at all. If you can pick up 3 yards on 2nd down your left with a 3rd and 5 which opens your entire playbook... Its the penalty's and loss yardage plays that hurt you. You still need to stay aggressive but at the same time USC had nothing to lose,and was going to take away the short passing running game and take the chance we wouldn't beat them deep before they get the sack ect.. They were going to blitz ect take chances to get some big plays on defense.I think stoops didn't want to take to many chances..but the penalty's and fumble really is what hurt us..
Being able to grind out games is good and is where the air raid hurts you,which is why I like Dawson incorporating a power run game!
We just need to get better at getting 2-3 yards and not giving any loss yardage plays..puts a lot of pressure on the other team if they are down 2 scores..
Being able to grind out games is good and is where the air raid hurts you,which is why I like Dawson incorporating a power run game!
We just need to get better at getting 2-3 yards and not giving any loss yardage plays..puts a lot of pressure on the other team if they are down 2 scores..
Just honest enough to tell it as I see it. Not a suck up all is great fan. It was a poor offensive effort by the coaches in the 2nd half. Stats show it. Dawson and Stoops went to the four corner offense. No confidence in their players. Run 3 and get a poor punt. Hope the clock runs out.
Our point is that we didn't appear to make any adjustments and played ultra conservative in the second half nearly costing us both games. Had we kept our foot on the gas we most likely would have pulled away against S.C. instead of barely holding on to the win thanks to a horrible pass and the 2 point return that thankfully helped us seal the game.
I thought the same thing. In both games the opposing coaches have made substantial, effective adjustments. I expect Stoops to raise his game going forward, and anticipate those adjustments and come up with some preventative measures of his own at halftime.
I will only state: You can bet your life, the coaches are concerned about the 2nd half play of our football team. When someone is concerned, this does not make someone a troll. I am very happy with our 2 wins.Florida game will be a big win for our program. we will be 3 & 0 after Sat. night.
If you're satisfied with only that then how would you feel if we didn't win but a total of 4-5 games for the rest of the year? It's nice and it's great, what the team and coaches have done, but it does bring up legitimate concerns about future games.
Bet the coaches are concerned so why not us? Of course, fortunately, we have only speculation and absolutely no input.
He had only 3 incompletions, because he had limited attempts due to a valid lack of trust from the coaching staff.
He completed 72% (21/29) of his passes, for 192 yards. Thats including a devastating INT to begin the game, which basically handed them a touchdown.
I dont expect perfection. But if 21 completions for 192 yards is what you think is a good game from an NFL prospect, then we'll have to just disagree. He had a great run and is a great kid. He has tons of talent. He just isnt clicking right now, and I dont see why its so evil to point that out.
LOL! It sounds like Stoops lost you a long time ago. If you don't like our coach, that's your right. But at least make a serious effort to understand what you see. I watched the game again yesterday afternoon and came away with some clear impressions. Kentucky's ground game was dominant in the 1st half. We were pushing South Carolina defenders off the line of scrimmage almost at will and ripping off huge runs. We went to the locker room with a 17 point lead on the road. Given that, the decision to stick with the running game in the 2nd half was exactly the right decision. Running the football means wearing down the opposing defense and running the clock. That's exactly what Dawson set out to do, and it made perfect sense. It would have made no sense to save the clock for an opponent and risk throwing interceptions on their home field by throwing the ball all over the place when you have been running the ball successfully and you are already up by 17. Unfortunately, execution of our ground game was not as good in the 2nd half, when we had a lot of holding and other penalties. Those penalties repeatedly put us in bad down and distance situations. But penalties in the 1st road game of the season have nothing to do with what you call horrible coaching. We are 2-0 with our 1st road win in 5 years, and you think our coaches are horrible. Get a clue.
This is pretty obvious, but I will translate it for you anyway. You are seeing 2 schools of thought here. The 1st school of thought says that we are 2-0 with our 1st road win in 5 years, and we are happy because Stoops is succeeding. I have not yet seen anyone with this perspective say everything is perfect now, or that the coaches can stop coaching now. You might have misunderstood that, although I don't know why. The other school of thought is comprised of people who are never happy with anything, and think our coaches are idiots. If some of our fans think our coaches are idiots, no 1 is saying they can't have their opinion. But they are going to have to defend it. To my knowledge, no 1 in either school has suggested we are ready for the Sugar Bowl yet. LOL!
For all we know if we came out slinging it in the 2nd half, Pat might have thrown a devastating interception deep in SC territory. If that happened, I can guarantee the usual suspects would have been on here demanding to know why our "stupid" coaches had gone away from the run game when we had been punching it down their throat all night.
I agree with you in principle, but disagree with the level of negativity you are exhibiting. Yes, we should not have become so vanilla in the 3rd quarter. If we had lost as a result, I for one was not going to throw anything at my Vizio. I get what they were doing, but don't agree. It is easy to forget we have a lot of young coaches. Maybe later this season, even this week, Dawson and Stoops take a different approach in that situation. I hope so, but I am not going to lose faith over it. You have to recognize that the entire program is a work in progress, including the staff, not just the players.
Who cares about the NFL? How many Heisman QB's were never drafted? He did plenty for us to win the game. Stats? Team game BBI, come on now.
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To an extent, but we can also try to look at the positive and say it is a young team growing and learning to win. That being said, this team and coaching staff still need to focus on improvement every day. We were lucky to win on Saturday and it shouldn't have even been close. I really think we are still trying to develop an offensive identity with a new O coordinator. If and when we find that, I think the sky is the limit.
The slow 2nd half on offense gives us something to build on for next week. If we would have won 38-24 and the game was never in question, then I'd be concerned our focus during practice wouldn't be as strong. There is a silver lining
Has nothing to do with it. Stats are relative. Towles has incredible ability. Hes played average. Once his ability turns into better production, this offense will be lethal.
Dude has asked a legit question, no reason to slash his neck over it. I think we are in agreement that the problem is conservative play calling, lack of use of the middle to the te's and lack of a counter adjustment. If it's happened 2 times already why would you not asked the question of why hasn't it not been fixed?
The offense has scored 66 points in 2 games he has QB'd. He hit on 74% of his passes his last game, away, against an SEC team.
He is not Aaron Rodgers. What are you looking for? You seem to be going by his HS rating like our BBall fans, that doesn't matter.
I am missing your point, help me.
Does he zero in on a wr? Yes, many college QBs do.
Is he Ken Anderson accuracy wise? No, but his last outing percentage-wise is considered outstanding by the numbers.
Does he miss players downfield on long passes? Yes every QB does.
Can he get better? I am sure he can. I think Barker will have to make many of the same adjustments when he takes the helm, despite any appearances he may get this year.
After the USC game he is more than serviceable. Hit a large % of passes, ran a tough TD when we needed it.
Play calling ULL game in 2nd half wasn't great, coaches admitted as much.
Against USC...you had the penalties, bad field position, no unnecessary risks, etc. Lots of potential reasons why they called the way they did.
TE over the middle - been wondering that for the last 2 weeks. Seeing Adams (89) working the middle against us made me yearn for some Conrad doing the same.
Please explain what you would have changed in the 2nd half given each situation...I'll keep it simple...just the first 2 possessions in the 2nd half?
Maybe you should re-watch the game in the 2nd half then...2nd series we threw on 1st down for a 12 yard gain. Called back for holding...the 1st series...holding...I could go on but you just showed you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
I did edit my post to include the one time that I recall them passing on first down. Nice try though. I like you, you're funny.
And you're totally clueless but it's not a requirement to be a fan.
I'm clueless because I'm not OK with us not trying to win until we had to in the second half? Maybe you could share some of your vast football knowledge with us.
Please share.
You keep harping that but you have no basis in the SC game, Try penalties that took away completions. His second half of the ULL game was not good but you can't compare the SC game with it unless you just dislike the kid.
Not trying to win? That right there says you're clueless unless you believe the coaches were trying to lose.....in which case, they're bigger failures than even you believe
There were 6 offensive possessions in the second half.
The first 2 had penalties that had us on first and long deep in SC territory......throwing with an admittedly inconsistent QB would be asking for trouble. Pat played well in the first half, but the running game did the majority of the damage.
The last one we punched it down SC's throat and ran out the clock....surely you aren't complaining about that?
The other three are admittedly debatable......so the real question is, how much b#tching do you think is warranted for 3 offensive possessions?
