Another Diallo article

[KentuckyCat420]

Fran Fraschilla and Jeff Goodman are both Kansas slurpers that don't like UK, of course they're going to say Diallo is a lottery pick now. If they can help push Diallo to the NBA so UK doesn't have him then they will.

You're ignorant if you think otherwise, Diallo and his people are checking those websites and tweets just like everyone else.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I wish the mods would delete any new threads about Diallo. It's the same Ol' same Ol' blah blah blah. A poster starts bashing the kid and then others pile on. Rinse and repeat. Talking in circles.

I didn't bash anyone.

 

[poppycat]

I feel like those guys are college guys, and we should listen to NBA guys.

Ford had him at 36 I think.
Draft Xpress had him early 2nd round.

I'm not going to say he's leaning towards coming back, but a couple of college writers aren't going to tell me he's staying either.

If Diallo goes lottery (he won't), late 1st, or 2nd round, he will get a gauranteed contract. No NBA team is going to cut him. He gets paid....how much ?? more than NCAA............

 

[Primedfor9]

The funny thing is I think if he played his stock would have been higher. I think Diallo would have been excelling by NCAA Tourney time.

I don't. We had Fox, Monk, and Briscoe playing most of the minutes at guard. He would've came off the bench and scored 3 or 4 points a game at best imo. I don't think he would've raised his stock or helped the team if he took any of Hawkins minutes, Hawk was playing very well at the end of the season. In hindsight, he might've played better than Mulder but there was no way to know Mulder was going to miss most of his shots in the tournament when he shot ver 40 percent most of the season.

 

[sefus12]

Exactly. Pisses me off that he wouldn't play last year. If he stays in the draft, he simply used UK and provided zero to the program.

Hot take there. If only I had heard it before.

Too bad Fox and Monk wouldn't be able to improve playing against a top-level athlete like Diallo everyday in practice. And too bad he's already signed with an agent and has no chance to come back. It all sucks so much.

 

[sefus12]

All those moaning about Diallo not playing this year forget that Cal had his team on his course B4 Diallo. Would it make sense to insert change with another player mid course. The day he walked into the practice building, he was at least 3 months behind the other UK players.

Don't try and use logic. It's harder for people to bitch and moan if you make too much sense.

 

[KMKAT]

HD could become the next James Young, who has watched other talent take him minutes, so if HD is happy in the NBDL, that is where he will start and bounce back and forth. That is his status IMO right now no matter who picks him. He's going to have to defend first to overtake anyone in front of him.

Listening to Tom Leach this am, Adam Zagoria has same opinion as mine in that if anyone picks him, its probably going to be the teams with multiple #1 picks.

I'm satisfied either direction, but the BBN will truly appreciate HD coming back to help us towards the run to #9?

 

[K-Town Kat]

If Diallo goes lottery (he won't), late 1st, or 2nd round, he will get a gauranteed contract. No NBA team is going to cut him. He gets paid....how much ?? more than NCAA............

I just personally think it's a terrible financial decision to go now, rather than waiting 12 months and going lottery next year, which he's already projected to be. We're talking millions of dollars here. Not a few, millions. I know the whole "bird in the hand worth more, etc.", but man, that's a huge difference in pay to simply wait a year.

 

[JimBR]

Before the draft players work out for teams that have an interest. My guess is in skipping the combine workout he will work out for any team that has interest. Skipping the 5 on 5 at the combine may not be too big of a deal.

 

[oldlewisville99]

I don't agree that folks sharing an opinion about someone, without trashing that person, is piling on. Everybody praising a player is also piling on. Without opinions wonderful forums like this would not exist. Ever been to Redszone? That place years ago was a fun place to talk Reds, and then a select number of folks silenced everyone else. It's now just a handful of guys with 15-30k posts.

 

[sefus12]

I just personally think it's a terrible financial decision to go now, rather than waiting 12 months and going lottery next year, which he's already projected to be. We're talking millions of dollars here. Not a few, millions. I know the whole "bird in the hand worth more, etc.", but man, that's a huge difference in pay to simply wait a year.

Two things:

1) NONE of us know where he may go this year. If it's first round, then he gets a guaranteed multi-million dollar contract. In the NBA you make the real money in your second and third contracts. The first one gets you in the door and you have to prove yourself form there (yes, I know the difference in the 1st and last pick of the 1st round.... it's still the next two contracts where you set up your kids' kids for life).

2) If he comes back there's no guarantee he will either improve his draft stock or not get injured. I know what mock drafts say, but the NBA loves youth. Coming back gets him both one year older and adds another year the NBA can evaluate/pick-apart his game.

I'm not saying I want him to go (I want him back on the team next year as much as anyone), but if he's getting a guaranteed first round contract, that's tough to pass up so you can pay for free for another year.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Two things:

1) NONE of us know where he may go this year. If it's first round, then he gets a guaranteed multi-million dollar contract. In the NBA you make the real money in your second and third contracts. The first one gets you in the door and you have to prove yourself form there (yes, I know the difference in the 1st and last pick of the 1st round.... it's still the next two contracts where you set up your kids' kids for life).

2) If he comes back there's no guarantee he will either improve his draft stock or not get injured. I know what mock drafts say, but the NBA loves youth. Coming back gets him both one year older and adds another year the NBA can evaluate/pick-apart his game.

I'm not saying I want him to go (I want him back on the team next year as much as anyone), but if he's getting a guaranteed first round contract, that's tough to pass up so you can pay for free for another year.

I agree.

Out of high school, guys like the Harrison twins would have been top-20 picks, maybe even lottery. Instead, teams got a look at them, saw their physical limitations, saw that they weren't knock-down shooters from three, and saw that Aaron wasn't capable of playing both guard spots.

Same with Briscoe. He came back another year, became a better player by every conceivable measure--shot it better, rebounded, lead a young team, etc. and will still go lower than he would have out of high school.

Coming back is typically a bad idea, because the only thing more valuable than production is potential.

 

[poppycat]

I just personally think it's a terrible financial decision to go now, rather than waiting 12 months and going lottery next year, which he's already projected to be. We're talking millions of dollars here. Not a few, millions. I know the whole "bird in the hand worth more, etc.", but man, that's a huge difference in pay to simply wait a year.

I agree with you, but does he. (or many others)
Some kids regard the 1 Yr rule as a necessary evil
and will avoid college at any length.
Diallo, if he goes, won't being signing just a minimum
D-league contract. If he goes undrafted, he gets a
good deal with some team.

 

[LXA_chop]

I don't understand how he is "climbing" up the draft boards.. correct me if I am wrong but to my understanding the players have not worked out in front of teams and don't m participate in any combine activities until later this week so what has changed in the last couple weeks for him to go from a possible middle 2nd rounder to late 1st/early 2nd to now firmly locked in the 1st rd??

It's all a media train. One person speculates that he could go 1st round, so then, everyone else jumps on board. Then you start hearing, if he's going first round, what if he could be a lottery pick? So then one of the "experts" speculates, Diallo could be a lottery pick. All the while the NBA scouts are sitting back saying, "did you read that we are taking Diallo number 1 overall?" The other scout says, "Who? The kid that isn't supposed to have a jumpshot and hasn't played competitively in over a year? I guess I better go check him out at this combine, he might be worth a look." Then the media guys say, "Look the scouts are interested in Diallo, we were right, he might go lotto." Then we hear it and scream, "the sky is falling, we would have beat the '96 Bulls if he were on our team last year, forget him, he used us" It's like a terrible game of telephone and he said/she said.

 

[Cats192]

Exactly. Pisses me off that he wouldn't play last year. If he stays in the draft, he simply used UK and provided zero to the program.

You have to look at it through Cal's eyes.

The kid told Cal what the deal was.

Cal took him hoping it winds up that he comes back. Worst case scenario--he comes here and practices vs our guys and improves them, but never plays a game.
Best case scenario: He plays after the 1st season and helps us win a title.

In all scenarios: He never plays for Duke or UNC or Kansas or Louisville.

We lost nothing by doing it. It's only upside.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

It just kills me knowing he could have helped.

Wouldn't have mattered, IMO. We were not allowed to win that game against UNCheat. It was painfully obvious.

 

[kyups01]

Wouldn't have mattered, IMO. We were not allowed to win that game against UNCheat. It was painfully obvious.

Ha true that!

 

[Sawnee Cat]

Diallo will not be the first player who would rather play in the D League than start at UK.

I think he stays in the draft knowing he is going to the D League if drafted. And he will be drafted.