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American sniper!

I thought the move was good. The fake baby scene was interesting, he was making the babies arm move and all. Clint Eastwood does it again.
 
I love how some people are willing to go to extraordinary lengths to discredit the movie. It's a movie, not a documentary. It shouldn't come as a shock that some of it isn't 100% accurate and the folks who wrote the screenplay to some artistic license.

Black Hawk Down, Saving Private Ryan, Lone Survivor.......none of those movies are 100% accurate. They are movies.
 
before Chris Kyle, before Carlos Hathcock, before any sniper in the world wars, there was Jack Hinson


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A quiet, unassuming, and wealthy plantation owner, Jack Hinson was focused on his family life and seasonal plantings when the Civil War started to permeate the isolated valleys of the Kentucky-Tennessee border area where he lived. He was uniquely neutral--friend to both Confederate and Union generals--and his family exemplified the genteel, educated, gracious, and hardworking qualities highly valued in their society.

By the winter of 1862, the Hinsons' happy way of life would change forever. Jack Hinson's neutrality was shattered the day
Union patrols moved in on his land, captured two of his sons, accused them of being bushwhackers, and executed them on the roadside. The soldiers furthered the abuse by decapitating the Hinson boys and placing their heads on the gateposts of the family estate. The Civil War, now literally on Hinson's doorstep, had become painfully personal, and he could remain dispassionate no longer. He commissioned a special rifle, a heavy-barreled .50-caliber weapon designed for long-range accuracy. He said goodbye to his family, and he took to the wilderness seeking revenge.

Hinson, nearly sixty years of age, alone, and without formal military training, soon became a deadly threat to the Union. A
Confederate sniper, he made history after single-handedly bringing down an armed Union transport and serving as a scout for Nathan Bedford Forrest. A tenacious and elusive figure, Hinson likely killed more than one hundred Union soldiers, recording the confirmed deaths on the barrel of his rifle with precision.
Despite the numbers of men sent to kill him, Hinson evaded all capture, and like his footsteps through the Kentucky and Tennessee underbrush, his story has been shrouded in silence--until now.
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Originally posted by ModernThirst_Bill:
Originally posted by I am stupid:


Originally posted by College#19:
Saw it tonight. Horrible acting, but I sort of expected it. The violence against the children was just difficult to watch. That guy in real life must of been really messed up mentally. One thing to shoot and kill people in battle, another thing to pick people off as a sniper. I wouldn't want the job, the post traumatic stress would be some serious crap to deal with.


There has been a lot of controversy over stories he said and even had in his books. Some of them were proven to be lies and never happened. I do not think he made these things up just for notoriety. I believe he actually believed these things due to all of the mental problems he was having.
I'm not sure he had a lot of mental problems. He certainly didn't feel guilt for his role as a sniper. In his book, he says the toughest thing, mentally, was being in full tilt combat mode one day, then having to turn off the switch and come back to civilian life the next day when his deployment ended. He had some survivor's guilt when his buddy died in combat, but I think he was more or less a bit of a boastful kind of Type A personality who embellished some stories.

He originally had a story about punching Jesse Ventura in a bar that didn't happen, and Ventura sued him successfully (so that story was removed from the book), and Ventura is now suing his estate for further damages.

All in all, his combat kills were confirmed (the unconfirmed count is an additional 200+ I think). The guy was a machine in combat. Not only was he a sniper, but as a trained Navy Seal, he volunteered to be point man on a lot of house-to-house type of raids to gather insurgents, weapons, etc. He had a lot of up-close and personal experience, too.

Interesting guy. His murder was tragic.
Jesse Ventura is not suing Chris Kyle's estate for further damages, that was a lie made up by people who are afraid of the truth and call everyone who disagrees with them a liberal. Chris Kyle lied, said he knocked Ventura and accused Ventura of treason. Ventura is a former Navy SEAL and takes things like that very seriously. He wanted to clear his name so he offered to let Kyle publicly apologize and admit that he lied, he refused, Jesse Ventura sued him for defamation. Kyle was murdered in the middle of the trial so the judge allowed the trial to go on and made his estate responsible for the damages. Ventura won the lawsuit and was awarded $1.8 million. He is not suing for further damages.
 
Originally posted by Blueathletics:
Originally posted by elwood_blue:
Ok, so which Jefferson Pilot state was he in that would have shown UK-South Carolina?
Sounded like Dick Enberg calling the game....??
"Hello folks, this is Dick Enberg for Golden Flake..."

Just kidding. I guess it could have been a nationally televised game.
 
Ventura should have dropped the case after he died. Plus, the story was removed from the book.
 
Just got back from watching it, and yes, the movie is superb. At the end, as others have said, everyone was very quiet in the theater, with the exception of an elderly lady who was sitting alone a few seats down from me; she was crying.

When the credits began, everyone began applauding.

Must see.......
 
Originally posted by BernieSadori:
Ventura should have dropped the case after he died. Plus, the story was removed from the book.
Chris Kyle shouldn't have lied, defamed Ventura, or accused him of treason. He was trying clear his name, dropping the lawsuit doesn't accomplish that.
 
Just got back from seeing it. Total silence at the end. Great movie and an emotional roller coaster. The fact that liberals consider it controversial speaks volumes about them.

EAD, Albany.
 
Originally posted by HeismanCatNole85:
Just got back from seeing it. Total silence at the end. Great movie and an emotional roller coaster. The fact that liberals consider it controversial speaks volumes about them.

EAD, Albany.
Other than Michael Moore's comments of which I've not seen anyone agreeing, the only "controversy" that has been discussed is whether or not we should have even been in Iraq in the first place. It was 9/11 that inspired Kyle to enlist yet all of his tours of duty were in a place that had nothing to do with that event.
 
Originally posted by kyhusker2:
I love how some people are willing to go to extraordinary lengths to discredit the movie. It's a movie, not a documentary. It shouldn't come as a shock that some of it isn't 100% accurate and the folks who wrote the screenplay to some artistic license.

Black Hawk Down, Saving Private Ryan, Lone Survivor.......none of those movies are 100% accurate. They are movies.
First Slate
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Hollywood sucks at accuracy in bio or real event movies, which makes the whining and parsing about this one so obviously agenda-driven. They want no movies about a 4 tour Navy Seal and more like Tangerine...a movie about a transvestite prostitute shot entirely on an Iphone. Sundance is abuzz about that one.




More palatable
 
Originally posted by fuzz77:

Originally posted by HeismanCatNole85:
Just got back from seeing it. Total silence at the end. Great movie and an emotional roller coaster. The fact that liberals consider it controversial speaks volumes about them.

EAD, Albany.
Other than Michael Moore's comments of which I've not seen anyone agreeing, the only "controversy" that has been discussed is whether or not we should have even been in Iraq in the first place. It was 9/11 that inspired Kyle to enlist yet all of his tours of duty were in a place that had nothing to do with that event.
What? Look up Bill Maher, Howard Dean, Seth Rogan, any of the talking heads from MSNBC that contradict that statement.
 
Originally posted by WildcatFan1982:
Seth Rogen compared it to a scene from 'inglorious basterds' and said it was a really good movie. What an asshole!
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No. He likened it to Nazi propaganda.
 
There was a guy on MSNBC that called Kyle racist and referred to his "killing sprees". Talk about being just a complete buffoon.
 
Originally posted by WildcatFan1982:
The movie that Seth Rogen compared to 'American sniper' was directed by Quentin Tarantino
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You're not going to be able to reason with these wackos.

They come back from the movie brimmin' with patriotism and ready to WHOOP SOME LIBERAL ASS!
 
Originally posted by qwesley:

Originally posted by kyhusker2:
I love how some people are willing to go to extraordinary lengths to discredit the movie. It's a movie, not a documentary. It shouldn't come as a shock that some of it isn't 100% accurate and the folks who wrote the screenplay to some artistic license.

Black Hawk Down, Saving Private Ryan, Lone Survivor.......none of those movies are 100% accurate. They are movies.
First Slate
rolleyes.r191677.gif


Hollywood sucks at accuracy in bio or real event movies, which makes the whining and parsing about this one so obviously agenda-driven. They want no movies about a 4 tour Navy Seal and more like Tangerine...a movie about a transvestite prostitute shot entirely on an Iphone. Sundance is abuzz about that one.
I wonder if the irony is lost on slate that an article depicting the accuracy of the movie had to have multiple corrections added to correct wrong information?

ftr, I am not pro or anti Chris Kyle.

It was a very good movie.
 
Originally posted by The_Catfather:

Originally posted by WildcatFan1982:
The movie that Seth Rogen compared to 'American sniper' was directed by Quentin Tarantino

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You're not going to be able to reason with these wackos.

They come back from the movie brimmin' with patriotism and ready to WHOOP SOME LIBERAL ASS!
And rightfully so given some of the comments from liberals here.
 
Originally posted by The_Catfather:

Originally posted by WildcatFan1982:
The movie that Seth Rogen compared to 'American sniper' was directed by Quentin Tarantino

Posted from Rivals Mobile
You're not going to be able to reason with these wackos.

They come back from the movie brimmin' with patriotism and ready to WHOOP SOME LIBERAL ASS!
Liberal ideas really seem to be working real well with the US foreign policy right now. ISIS is running rampant in countries, raping, beheading, burning, meanwhile President Obama thinks climate change is the greatest threat we face. Total clown for a president.
 
Seen it last week. Good movie not great. Was expecting better. Im a conservative republican.
 
Originally posted by The_Catfather:

Originally posted by WildcatFan1982:
The movie that Seth Rogen compared to 'American sniper' was directed by Quentin Tarantino

Posted from Rivals Mobile
You're not going to be able to reason with these wackos.

They come back from the movie brimmin' with patriotism and ready to WHOOP SOME LIBERAL ASS!


Just saw it. Great movie... which means I feel like I got my money's worth for the ticket price.

BTW, it seems Rogen's comment was comparing QT's fictional Nazi propaganda movie, that was featured within Tarantino's film, to American Sniper... so, Seth was intentionally trying to start some ish, or he's an idiot... or both.
 
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