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Almost feel sorry for North Carolina fans...

This is great stuff right here. UK currently with the #2 recruiting class and possibly moving to #1 with Murray and we are experiencing a low.

Yet UNC has the #33 class...

Well, you're the only one around here who's pleased with UK's recruiting these past few months. I was simply relaying the unrest I see here daily.
 
Think it's interesting our resident Heel fans are in defensive attack mode yet have said nothing to refute my original point that UNC may well miss out out on the 4 best recruits in the state this year - in a year they need a good haul.

Two of those guys could end up at lowly NCState, and for the second year in a row, UNC could miss on the best in-state recruit to Duke - that after missing out on a guy who was mentored by Stackhouse and whole family was Heel fans.

That's a disaster any way you spin it. Oh well - they have Luke Maye and a VCU decommit - so I guess they'll be fine.

By the way, we're not obsessed with UNC. We're UK fans, we're obsessed with college basketball and its June and you guys are about the only story out there - other than our 4 lottery picks getting ready for the draft.
 
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Well, you're the only one around here who's pleased with UK's recruiting these past few months. I was simply relaying the unrest I see here daily.

In the old days before the baby blue site began to restrict other fans from getting on, there was always unrest about roy boy and your program. Its a shame that like your school, your site doesn't want to hear the truth about your cheating and passing out diplomas like free trinkets in a box of crackerjacks. If you was a UK fan talking on your site as you do here, you would have been banned by now. New slogan, the unc way, sorry program and sports site.
 
So, Barnes going lottery after deciding to skip lottery after a freshman (and now a starter on the champs) is bad?

McAdoo said he wanted to stay longer at UNC even though he was projected lottery after freshman year (in which he never played significant minutes until the end). Is it Roy's fault that JMM chose to expose his overrating by coming back? By the way, is JMM still in the league?

Show us these shots JP took at Roy. Are you talking about the latest SI article on JP? How some here can continue to just throw as much merde against the wall and blatantly lie and not get called out is beyond me.

Finally, should I blame UK's latest low in recruiting on Cal's 'failures' with the twins, Dakari, and other top 10 players who didn't go lottery-top 15?

Jesus what an idiot.

Harry Barnes was supposed to be the greatest player since Lebron. Turns out he had a pretty disappointing freshman year where an ESPN analyst had to create a graphic talking about how he wouldn't suck so bad if he just hit more shots. Then he came back, and again, accomplished not much, no thanks to Roy, who had no idea how to actually run plays for him. He made it through two years at Carolina with an INSANE cast around him and won exactly jack squat. He maybe should have spent more time at basketball and a little less worrying about his brand, which he talked incessantly about.

JMM was ferociously talented. Turns out, again, Roy had zero idea how to use him. He posted historically bad advanced metrics, and became an absolute joke... A top top recruit who barely made it to the league.

JP said he wouldn't have been used right at UNC, and wouldn't have learned much. I've literally never heard a recruit say those sorts of things about their coach. Roy responded by saying JPs decision wasn't very intelligent. I almost wonder how there is any space left under the bus for JP.

Listen... Maybe you don't know this... But here, check this out.

There are 16 programs that have recruited more than one top 10 prospect since 2006. Eight have recruited five or more. Here’s the list (along with each school’s success at turning potential one-and-dones into real one-and-dones):
(17) Kentucky – 12 of 17 top 10 (70.5 percent); 8 of 9 top 5 (88.9 percent)
(8) UNC – 1 of 8 top 10 (12.5 percent); 1 of 4 top 5 (25 percent)
(7) Duke – 5 of 7 top 10 (71.4 percent); 4 of 4 top 5 (100 percent)
(5) Kansas – 5 of 5 top 10 (100 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(5) Arizona – 3 of 5 top 10 (60 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(4) UCLA – 3 of 4 top 10 (75 percent); 3 of 4 top 5 (75 percent)
(4) Texas – 3 of 4 top 10 (75 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(4) Memphis –2 of 4 top 10 (50 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(3) Ohio State – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 2 top 5 (50 percent)
(3) Florida – 1 of 3 top 10 (33.3 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(3) Baylor – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 2 top 5 (50 percent)
(3) Indiana – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) Georgia Tech – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) Southern Cal – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) UNLV – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); no top 5
(2) Oklahoma State – 0 for 2 top 10 (0 percent); no top 5

12.5 percent. Wow.


Go back to cheating, and then denying it to the grave... it is all you Carolina folks are good at.
 
Jesus what an idiot.

Harry Barnes was supposed to be the greatest player since Lebron. Turns out he had a pretty disappointing freshman year where an ESPN analyst had to create a graphic talking about how he wouldn't suck so bad if he just hit more shots. Then he came back, and again, accomplished not much, no thanks to Roy, who had no idea how to actually run plays for him. He made it through two years at Carolina with an INSANE cast around him and won exactly jack squat. He maybe should have spent more time at basketball and a little less worrying about his brand, which he talked incessantly about.

JMM was ferociously talented. Turns out, again, Roy had zero idea how to use him. He posted historically bad advanced metrics, and became an absolute joke... A top top recruit who barely made it to the league.

JP said he wouldn't have been used right at UNC, and wouldn't have learned much. I've literally never heard a recruit say those sorts of things about their coach. Roy responded by saying JPs decision wasn't very intelligent. I almost wonder how there is any space left under the bus for JP.

Listen... Maybe you don't know this... But here, check this out.

There are 16 programs that have recruited more than one top 10 prospect since 2006. Eight have recruited five or more. Here’s the list (along with each school’s success at turning potential one-and-dones into real one-and-dones):
(17) Kentucky – 12 of 17 top 10 (70.5 percent); 8 of 9 top 5 (88.9 percent)
(8) UNC – 1 of 8 top 10 (12.5 percent); 1 of 4 top 5 (25 percent)
(7) Duke – 5 of 7 top 10 (71.4 percent); 4 of 4 top 5 (100 percent)
(5) Kansas – 5 of 5 top 10 (100 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(5) Arizona – 3 of 5 top 10 (60 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(4) UCLA – 3 of 4 top 10 (75 percent); 3 of 4 top 5 (75 percent)
(4) Texas – 3 of 4 top 10 (75 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(4) Memphis –2 of 4 top 10 (50 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(3) Ohio State – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 2 top 5 (50 percent)
(3) Florida – 1 of 3 top 10 (33.3 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(3) Baylor – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 2 top 5 (50 percent)
(3) Indiana – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) Georgia Tech – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) Southern Cal – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) UNLV – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); no top 5
(2) Oklahoma State – 0 for 2 top 10 (0 percent); no top 5

12.5 percent. Wow.


Go back to cheating, and then denying it to the grave... it is all you Carolina folks are good at.
With numbers that bad the extension for Roy is looking better and better. LOL
 
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Jesus what an idiot.

Harry Barnes was supposed to be the greatest player since Lebron. Turns out he had a pretty disappointing freshman year where an ESPN analyst had to create a graphic talking about how he wouldn't suck so bad if he just hit more shots. Then he came back, and again, accomplished not much, no thanks to Roy, who had no idea how to actually run plays for him. He made it through two years at Carolina with an INSANE cast around him and won exactly jack squat. He maybe should have spent more time at basketball and a little less worrying about his brand, which he talked incessantly about.

JMM was ferociously talented. Turns out, again, Roy had zero idea how to use him. He posted historically bad advanced metrics, and became an absolute joke... A top top recruit who barely made it to the league.

JP said he wouldn't have been used right at UNC, and wouldn't have learned much. I've literally never heard a recruit say those sorts of things about their coach. Roy responded by saying JPs decision wasn't very intelligent. I almost wonder how there is any space left under the bus for JP.

Listen... Maybe you don't know this... But here, check this out.

There are 16 programs that have recruited more than one top 10 prospect since 2006. Eight have recruited five or more. Here’s the list (along with each school’s success at turning potential one-and-dones into real one-and-dones):
(17) Kentucky – 12 of 17 top 10 (70.5 percent); 8 of 9 top 5 (88.9 percent)
(8) UNC – 1 of 8 top 10 (12.5 percent); 1 of 4 top 5 (25 percent)
(7) Duke – 5 of 7 top 10 (71.4 percent); 4 of 4 top 5 (100 percent)
(5) Kansas – 5 of 5 top 10 (100 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(5) Arizona – 3 of 5 top 10 (60 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(4) UCLA – 3 of 4 top 10 (75 percent); 3 of 4 top 5 (75 percent)
(4) Texas – 3 of 4 top 10 (75 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(4) Memphis –2 of 4 top 10 (50 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(3) Ohio State – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 2 top 5 (50 percent)
(3) Florida – 1 of 3 top 10 (33.3 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(3) Baylor – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 2 top 5 (50 percent)
(3) Indiana – 2 of 3 top 10 (66.7 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) Georgia Tech – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); 1 of 1 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) Southern Cal – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); 2 of 2 top 5 (100 percent)
(2) UNLV – 2 of 2 top 10 (100 percent); no top 5
(2) Oklahoma State – 0 for 2 top 10 (0 percent); no top 5

12.5 percent. Wow.


Go back to cheating, and then denying it to the grave... it is all you Carolina folks are good at.

Yes, I'm an idiot perhaps, but wow you seriously just said:

JMM was ferociously talented.

I was planning a retort as I read, switching in and out the twins and other top players that didn't turn out to be as good as advertised. But then I got here and lost it. Yes, I might be an idiot and get annoying talking the UNC scandal, but this is other-worldly dumb. You should seriously never comment on the attributes of any player ever again. Holy hell, are you joking around here and I'm just too idiotic to get the sarcasm?

Edit: I was able to skip that section and I made it to your comments on JP Tokoto. While not as soundly retarded as before, once again are you joking? Of course he's not going to be a first, second, third, or even fourth option, the guy can't shoot consistently. As far as his comments, go read the lastest SI article where he praises Roy and UNC.

Great numbers man, that took some heavy research and I'm glad to see you're capable. I want speak for them, but I'd guess that UNC fans are more than happy with the success Roy has had there, up until the scandal which is almost over (not to mention, they're a favorite again this year).
 
This is great stuff right here. UK currently with the #2 recruiting class and possibly moving to #1 with Murray and we are experiencing a low.

Yet UNC has the #33 class...

This post made my day; to see UNC ranked #33 in recruiting....sure looks like the way Carolina does things, we can expect to see more rankings like this in the near future.

We're once again in a good place heading into the season. Roy needs everyone to look the other way while he denies any knowledge of irregular activities.
 
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Another article on UNC scandal....

http://www.conquestchronicles.com/2...versity-of-north-carolina-chapel-hill-scandal


The Tar Heels have possibly attempted the biggest academic fraud in collegiate history, involving more than 3,100 students over 18 years. What is more disturbing is nearly 47% of those students are student-athletes. Academic counselors for UNC's athletics knowingly put borderline athletes into Afro-American studies to maintain player's eligibility. From football to women's basketball, players were provided with recycled papers and undeserving grades to continue competing. The university, academic department, and athletics made a mockery of the NCAA, at the time where the industry's enforcement has been lukewarm.
 
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Another article on UNC scandal....

http://www.conquestchronicles.com/2...versity-of-north-carolina-chapel-hill-scandal


The Tar Heels have possibly attempted the biggest academic fraud in collegiate history, involving more than 3,100 students over 18 years. What is more disturbing is nearly 47% of those students are student-athletes. Academic counselors for UNC's athletics knowingly put borderline athletes into Afro-American studies to maintain player's eligibility. From football to women's basketball, players were provided with recycled papers and undeserving grades to continue competing. The university, academic department, and athletics made a mockery of the NCAA, at the time where the industry's enforcement has been lukewarm.
I love it but sadly most of the population will be hearing Dick Vitale's version of events.
 
Think it's interesting our resident Heel fans are in defensive attack mode yet have said nothing to refute my original point that UNC may well miss out out on the 4 best recruits in the state this year - in a year they need a good haul.

Two of those guys could end up at lowly NCState, and for the second year in a row, UNC could miss on the best in-state recruit to Duke - that after missing out on a guy who was mentored by Stackhouse and whole family was Heel fans.

That's a disaster any way you spin it. Oh well - they have Luke Maye and a VCU decommit - so I guess they'll be fine.
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Well, you don't know for certain that we're going to miss out on them. Why not just wait until it happens before you crow? There's no denying that we're down and that the scandal has left a black eye. But just like UK fans when things got rough, you stood by your school. Why would you assume Carolina fans wouldn't do the same? That's an absurd notion.

By the way, we're not obsessed with UNC. We're UK fans, we're obsessed with college basketball and its June and you guys are about the only story out there - other than our 4 lottery picks getting ready for the draft.


That's fair. But by that same logic, there's no fan base as obsessed with college basketball as UK. So wouldn't it be safe to say that no one outside of UK and NSCU care all that much about what's going on at Carolina? For many fan bases, June isn't about basketball. Those folks are off doing something else with their time rather than worrying about a scandal at a school where they have no connection.
 
It is comical to see UNC fans talking about UK fans talking about UNC cheating.

UK fans talking about UNC is not in the news every other day unlike UNC's historic scandal.
 
It is comical to see UNC fans talking about UK fans talking about UNC cheating.

UK fans talking about UNC is not in the news every other day unlike UNC's historic scandal.
They have to come over here to discuss anything with us. We get banned from their board without even posting. They run their board like that little dude runs North Korea.
 
Well, you don't know for certain that we're going to miss out on them. Why not just wait until it happens before you crow? There's no denying that we're down and that the scandal has left a black eye. But just like UK fans when things got rough, you stood by your school. Why would you assume Carolina fans wouldn't do the same? That's an absurd notion.

That's fair. But by that same logic, there's no fan base as obsessed with college basketball as UK. So wouldn't it be safe to say that no one outside of UK and NSCU care all that much about what's going on at Carolina? For many fan bases, June isn't about basketball. Those folks are off doing something else with their time rather than worrying about a scandal at a school where they have no connection.

The administration ay UK admitted that there were issues and cleaned them. UNC*** has spent millions of dollars attempting to cover their issues up. Still today UNC*** has not admitted they have cheated for 20 years. Who wants to be a fan of a school that cannot admit its wrong doing and accept its punishment? I just saw an article over on a USC site wondering if UNC*** will get hammered because USC got punished hard over Reggie Bush. I have seen articles and message board conversations by Penn State fans as well. The UCONN guys being so quiet stuns me since they got hit by the APR a couple years ago and UNC*** has cheated to avoid the APR since the day the APR came into existence and gave itself awards for the high GPA of its athletes.
 
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No sympathy at all, heck they are lucky the NCAA didn't go after the Wheels for Heels.
But a lot of schadenfreude going on here :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But hey it's the off season, not much else going on till Murray makes up his mind tonight.
 
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