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Almost feel sorry for North Carolina fans...

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This year, 3 of the Top 10 high school players in the country are from North Carolina, and it's very much looking like none of them are going to UNC. To add insult to injury, I wouldn't be surprised to see Killeja-Jones, who is a Chapel Hill native, spurn the Heels for UK or UVa.

They'll be good this year, but next year, the wheels may start to come off the bus.
 
This year, 3 of the Top 10 high school players in the country are from North Carolina, and it's very much looking like none of them are going to UNC. To add insult to injury, I wouldn't be surprised to see Killeja-Jones, who is a Chapel Hill native, spurn the Heels for UK or UVa.

They'll be good this year, but next year, the wheels may start to come off the bus.

I read in another thread that Killeja-Jones' mother said that Roy was telling recruits that the bball program was in the clear. Roy is going to get his comeuppance once of these days.
 
I don't feel sorry one bit. They deserve the death penalty.

If he is telling parents the the bb program is in the clear that tells me that they are dirty as hell but just isn't going to catch the flak. If he stated that they did not participate in such activities and will not ever as long as he is running the program that would have parents thinking they are clean.
What he stated and if that's accurate then they are dirt bags.
 
I don't feel sorry one bit. They deserve the death penalty.

If he is telling parents the the bb program is in the clear that tells me that they are dirty as hell but just isn't going to catch the flak. If he stated that they did not participate in such activities and will not ever as long as he is running the program that would have parents thinking they are clean.
What he stated and if that's accurate then they are dirt bags.
Agree. Can't feel sorry for folks who are dirtier than sin.
 
That's like feeling sorry for the bank robber who got caught before he had the chance to spend all of the money. I don't feel one bit sorry for the cheaters.
 
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Not sure why you'd feel bad for us.
If UK can come back from their years of paying for players and all the other BS that made them the poster child of "corrupt", UNC will certainly have no problem.
Regardless of the outcome, it will be over, soon enough, and UNC will be just fine...
 
Not sure why you'd feel bad for us.
If UK can come back from their years of paying for players and all the other BS that made them the poster child of "corrupt", UNC will certainly have no problem.
Regardless of the outcome, it will be over, soon enough, and UNC will be just fine...

[laughing] If you want to see the poster child of "corrupt, " look in the mirror. Dean S-myth U!
 
Clearly, you missed my point.
UNC may be the poster child of corrupt, now, but not long ago it was UK...hands down.
If UK can come back, UNC will do it easier.

You throw out baseless accusations. I didn't miss the point at all. You did.

UK did some stuff wrong but we also cleaned house. UNC gave the cheater an extension and refuses to address the real issues.
 
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Not sure why you'd feel bad for us.
If UK can come back from their years of paying for players and all the other BS that made them the poster child of "corrupt", UNC will certainly have no problem.
Regardless of the outcome, it will be over, soon enough, and UNC will be just fine...
The last time our basketball program was on probation was 25 years ago. Your cheating scheme started under Dean Smyth at about the same time. You need to hang a banner for the longest case of academic fraud in NCAA history. You'll probably have a couple of empty spaces in a few months.
 
Please don't feel sorry for them. I live down here and they are the most arrogant classless fan base I have ever come across (outside of Louisville). I actually find Duke fans so much more pleasant to talk to as most of them can at least have an intelligent and realistic basketball discussion with you. That being said I honestly have not found one NC fan that is not completely delusional. I never talk smack or disrespect their program but 9 out of 10 times the NC fan I encounter attacks UK and our program. Their favorite comeback is "well at least we don't pay our players" of just simply "Pay Pal Cal." Such a sad, washed up, rinse and repeat argument for these guys. I am sitting back (keeping my mouth shut) and am enjoying watching them sweat. I know they will get off with very light punishments given their influence in high places, but at least recruits are getting nervous. The fact of the matter is that they have a great shot at hanging another banner in 2016 and only after that will they be set back a couple to three years.
 
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You sure do love talking about UNC. Why is that?

Because for the past 30+ years you self-righteous bastards have acted like you're better than every other basketball program- not on the court, mind you, but morally. Your fanbase and administration postured like your ish didn't stink. Turns out that like most sanctimonious pricks, you're nothing but hypocrites who are worse than most.

That's why everyone's enjoying this so much. I get a smile everytime I see something about your scandal. Warms my heart. I don't care if the NCAA lets you off the hook or not. Ol' Chapel Hill has been exposed as a fraud.

Love the "everyone does it" about turn, too. That's my favorite.
 
I said "almost" - the rest of me is enjoying their misery. What I find interesting is that the NCAA thing is playing out at a really bad time for them recruiting-wise. The only drawback is that their hitting bottom is benefiting Duke immensely.

What I find strange is that they haven't figured out that Roy has to go. Not only the NCAA thing, but Roy has lost all credibility with recruits who want to a fast track to the NBA. First the Harrison Barnes situation, then McAdoo, then Tokoto leaves and takes shots at Roy on the way out the door. They would be really easy to recruit against right now.
 
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UNC with all the blatant cheating and attempted cover up. Fats Thomas a convicted felon linked with P.J. Hairston's car scandal . Fake classes ect . The North Carolina Tar Heels are the very definition of corruption run rampant.

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Not sure why you'd feel bad for us.
If UK can come back from their years of paying for players and all the other BS that made them the poster child of "corrupt", UNC will certainly have no problem.
Regardless of the outcome, it will be over, soon enough, and UNC will be just fine...

Losers like this are why no one should ever feel bad for the cheaters. They get busted with their hand in the cookie jar, and then still try to talk down to you about their righteousness. I actually used to pull for them when they played Duke, then I met some of their fans. I hope they never win another game.
 
You sure do love talking about UNC. Why is that?

one of the most unintelligent questions any student of historical literature might ask would be something along the lines of why did 19th century writers like to write so frequently about social injustices, merchant corruption, class inequality, nobility immorality, false bourgeoisie, and so on?

The reason that would be an incredibly unintelligent question - stupid for all time - is that the most entry-level of literature students already should know that 19th century writers were determined through the influence of both fiction and non-fiction works to achieve further change as the collapse of European political and social structures continued.

Collapse of the unc structure is exactly what is happening - precisely due to their long standing immoral codes and false pretenses. And if you are not already aware that our writing is in wild anticipation of that Great Blade falling across the back of your neck before your heads roll for the blooded basket then you too are asking one sensationally stupid question, my friend. Please, ask more. Keep asking. Purveyor of free entertainment that you are.

It will be a far better thing that you do, than anything you have ever done (but I doubt you will rest well). many apologies to CD
 
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What I find strange is that they haven't figured out that Roy has to go. Not only the NCAA thing, but Roy has lost all credibility with recruits who want to a fast track to the NBA. First the Harrison Barnes situation, then McAdoo, then Tokoto leaves and takes shots at Roy on the way out the door. They would be really easy to recruit against right now.

Uh...Harrison Barnes just won a NBA ring, no college program in America has close to as many... Pretty sure McAdoo is getting paid in the NBA and smart money says Tokoto will as well, even though he can't shoot the ball...lol

I agree that Roy lost his fire, after 2009. Roy Williams would admit it himself, but he's still one of the best coaches in the game. Again, UNC will take their blows and move on and still be a blue blood for years to come, regardless of what, if any, penalty is on the very near horizon.
 
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That's why everyone's enjoying this so much.
So, everyone = UK and NC State fans? Not even Duke fans care about it as much as UK fans, but I guess they have a reason for to be self-confident and not to obsess over UNC. I mean seriously, you guys start threads over over the possibility that UNC redacted 'MBB' from an email.

Cal says Kentucky is college basketball, but unfortunately for him the UK fans obsess over another blue-blood.
 
one of the most unintelligent questions any student of historical literature might ask would be something along the lines of why did 19th century writers like to write so frequently about social injustices, merchant corruption, class inequality, nobility immorality, false bourgeoisie, and so on?

The reason that would be an incredibly unintelligent question - stupid for all time - is that the most entry-level of literature students already should know that 19th century writers were determined through the influence of both fiction and non-fiction works to achieve further change as the collapse of European political and social structures continued.

Collapse of the unc structure is exactly what is happening - precisely due to their long standing immoral codes and false pretenses. And if you are not already aware that our writing is in wild anticipation of that Great Blade falling across the back of your neck before your heads roll for the blooded basket then your too are asking one sensationally stupid question, my friend. Please, ask more. Keep asking. Purveyor of free entertainment that you are.

It will be a far better thing that you do, than anything you have ever done (but I doubt you will rest well). many apologies to CD

Going to such an extreme to justify obsession only furthers my point.
 
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Going to such an extreme to justify obsession only furthers my point.

It only has the appearance of an extreme because you've never read a legitimate work of literature in your pathetic life. Dickens parallels are simple. But you are most certainly correct about obsession, Brad. 24 thousand fans in Rupp for just about every home game to cheer for our success is an example of obsession. A tiny dozen or so on a Saturday night typing about how much you and the rest of unc tarholes suck is another. Is that the point you were trying to make or am I helping more than you need?
 
Not sure why you'd feel bad for us.
If UK can come back from their years of paying for players and all the other BS that made them the poster child of "corrupt", UNC will certainly have no problem.
Regardless of the outcome, it will be over, soon enough, and UNC will be just fine...

Yeah but we didn't wear the halo and say we were perfect like you dirty heels are doing. What's sad is you are still lying to yourselves because you feel you are above the rules. Sad program.
 
most of their fans are in denial, and that's with a raleigh newspaper putting stuff out weekly. hard to feel sorry for a group deflecting everything despite known facts concerning the cheating. it's frankly childish, and for a top institution the worst kind of embarrassing. this perception won't just leave. their unwillingness for any ethical reaction has remained obvious.
 
Carolina fans have always run their mouth about their greatness while at the sametime invoking the Carolina way. Well for all the arrogant Carolina fans I know this will be a humbling experience. uNCheaters fans are self righteous we ll see if this experIence changes their perspective
 
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the Harrison Barnes situation, then McAdoo, then Tokoto leaves and takes shots at Roy on the way out the door. They would be really easy to recruit against right now.

So, Barnes going lottery after deciding to skip lottery after a freshman (and now a starter on the champs) is bad?

McAdoo said he wanted to stay longer at UNC even though he was projected lottery after freshman year (in which he never played significant minutes until the end). Is it Roy's fault that JMM chose to expose his overrating by coming back? By the way, is JMM still in the league?

Show us these shots JP took at Roy. Are you talking about the latest SI article on JP? How some here can continue to just throw as much merde against the wall and blatantly lie and not get called out is beyond me.

Finally, should I blame UK's latest low in recruiting on Cal's 'failures' with the twins, Dakari, and other top 10 players who didn't go lottery-top 15?
 
OMG, did I miss the draft???? Oh, yeah. No. You're just pulling something out of your butt. WHEW!

I can assure you that the twins and Dakari are not going to go as high as they were projected before stepping on UK's campus. I think it's not far of a stretch to say the same about Poythress, Lee and maybe a few others. It might just be me, but to say this is Cal's fault, or any other coach's fault in a similar situation, is just dumb. Taking for granted what some say here, if anything you should praise Roy for hiding JMM's weaknesses his freshman year to ensure he had the option to go lottery. I also think this is a stupid idea, but I'm sure if roles were reversed a lot here would assure you that it was indeed the case, that Cal didn't play him because it would expose his flaws but the kid just didn't want to leave early.
 
I can assure you that the twins and Dakari are not going to go as high as they were projected before stepping on UK's campus.

I can assure that UNC is going to be limping away from this after the NCAA gets done.

See how that works? I know about UNC's situation as much as you know about the draft situation.

Anyway, I know you were dying for someone to chat with you since 95% of the board has you on ignore and is railing your team right now, so there ya go, sweet heart.
 
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So, Barnes going lottery after deciding to skip lottery after a freshman (and now a starter on the champs) is bad?

McAdoo said he wanted to stay longer at UNC even though he was projected lottery after freshman year (in which he never played significant minutes until the end). Is it Roy's fault that JMM chose to expose his overrating by coming back? By the way, is JMM still in the league?

Show us these shots JP took at Roy. Are you talking about the latest SI article on JP? How some here can continue to just throw as much merde against the wall and blatantly lie and not get called out is beyond me.

Finally, should I blame UK's latest low in recruiting on Cal's 'failures' with the twins, Dakari, and other top 10 players who didn't go lottery-top 15?


This is great stuff right here. UK currently with the #2 recruiting class and possibly moving to #1 with Murray and we are experiencing a low.

Yet UNC has the #33 class...
 
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