All the Doom & Gloomers are out
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I have no clue, but I also don’t know what your point is either. I’ll never argue Pope and staff didn’t do a good job putting a roster together. But I’m also not going to pretend, with 1000 available players, putting a roster together is as difficult as it was five yrs ago.
The only argument I’ve ever tried to make is Pope isn’t above reproach. And it’s completely fair, given this teams issues and his past history as a coach, if he’ll be good enough to get it done as the UK coach.
I think you’re missing something. I said I thought his success would be Tubby or Joe B like. Tubby lived on his title his last couple yrs. Had he not won that title, he’d have been gone before he was. That’s all I meant. I’m in no way suggesting this team has regressed or anything like that. I think they’re right about where I thought they’d be. Granted, they’ve taken a helluva different path to get there though. A volatile and fun ride. 😂
Ron Mehico and his ilk live in an either/or world regarding Pope. ie Either be happy with Pope or wish Cal were still here. They would do well to apply a both/and philosophy here. It’s both good that Cal is no longer here and it’s possible that the man we’ve hired may not be a good fit in the end. It will suck if that’s true, but this is life.
I think it’s something you should look up and see how well we are doing in comparison to other teams with similar amounts of returning experience. I’d also imagine it would be interesting to you since it’s your profession. Might give you some insight into his possible direction as Kentucky coach. Would also imagine, since you’re a coach, how impressive it is he’s doing it with a new coaching staff. Thank you for keeping all us fans grounded and humble, and hopefully we can continue to question if Pope is the right coach for the job for his entire tenure and certainly after every loss on the road.
Yeah I figured he would be behind but based on his play early I didn’t expect this.
That probably describes me perfectly. I really, like REALLY wanted Beard. I wished for Hurley, but knew that was a dream. And given how much of a prick he has shown to be, man am I glad we dodged that bullet. I was less than thrilled when Pope was announced. Like a ton of others like me, he absolutely won me over. Until he proves otherwise, I’ll always be skeptical if he can get it done.
Or, since you’re trying to make some point from it, you could just tell me. And does it need to be zero? Is that any different than returning 15% or less of your production. I get zero returning players is a sexy narrative, but again, a lot of teams return hardly a thing. Especially after a coaching change. All of this to say, I’ve never said he hasn’t done a good job this year. In your world I should just walk around and pretend there aren’t concerns. If that’s you, cool. It ain’t me. It’s like me coaching a team, ignoring their weaknesses and just trying to get better at what we do well. That’s not a good recipe, IMHO.
Man, that’s just so wild for me to imagine doing. I’m not a religious guy at all, but even I can appreciate the dedication and willingness to serve a higher power. In today’s society and world though, it just seems wild to me. I just can’t imagine basically not playing for two yrs and then trying to compete at this level. I’m really not surprised at all where he’s at currently. That’s a big freaking hurdle.
Since our loss to Ohio State, we've basically bounced around in that top 15-25 range.
How many people thought we were going to be a top ten team coming into the season? I'd say we are right about at the level of the board's collective preseason expectation.
How many people thought we were going to be a top ten team coming into the season? I'd say we are right about at the level of the board's collective preseason expectation.
Yeah. It shows the kid has a good heart and his head is in the right place. Not everyone values the same things and as you said in times like these it’s even more rare a young man. Let alone a NBA type prospect would have those values and still take away time from his craft for that long to follow his value and heart.
It’s not so rare for a young Mormon. It’s hard to find data on this, but I’d venture to say at least 25 to 35% of young Mormons go on these missions.
Gonna be a battle to get to 11 but we can do it if we get healthy. Until then one game at a time and a win at UT no matter how unlikely would be a great boost. I hope Pope gets creative and starts mixing defenses up. I want to see some press, zone, man, man/1-3-1 hybrid like against Duke. We showed we could slow down talked T and fight back. Watch that Auburn tape because they really slowed them down and we can win a game in the 60’s. Just have to guard them. If we have a 3 point explosion we could easily win but it’s a long shot right now.
Yeah of course not for a young Mormon, but not many teens at all are that religious anymore. Trips like these are pretty exclusive to Mormons which makes that percentage even lower across the US.
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All the people on Butler’s back too considering he’s been lingering with a few different issues for quite a few games. The boy is trying to play through it all considering he’s our only true PG that’s still able to play right now. Butler is an awesome player!!!!
Yeah he is and he’s playing the hardest he can. We are in bad shape and he’s giving his all. Can’t fault him for not being 100%.
He’s a good player. 67th in the NCAA in assists per game. He’s had one monster scoring game and a handful of high assist games. His defense hasn’t been as good as advertised.
I don’t understand why you’re saying doom and gloom. Everyone expected losses this season because the SEC conference is the best it’s ever been. I can promise you the majority of this fanbase knows basketball. Yesterday’s game was winnable and we should have won it. The substitution rotations have to be cleaned up.
Just be glad we got a team
the shit show that left and headed for Arkansas ,left our program bone dry. I love watching this team and we need to get healed up fast . Carr really hurts us he is a match up problem for alot of teams . I still like our team come march .
the shit show that left and headed for Arkansas ,left our program bone dry. I love watching this team and we need to get healed up fast . Carr really hurts us he is a match up problem for alot of teams . I still like our team come march .
^^^^ this, 2 things can be right at the same time. Love that pope is here but the team looked bad overall Saturday and he has to take some of the blame. Some think “oh well, we lost” and then feel the need to talk those that question things……no one is “more of a fan” than the other but a healthy debate and discussion over decisions in the game and why certain players continually get a lot of pt, can’t see anything wrong with that. I hate when people try to tell others how to fan.
