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Absolutely correct. From what was mentioned on this board, Mitch was having trouble filling the job last time. I think Cohen recommended Mingione. I can understand why, you have the worst facilities in the SEC and minimal support.
We "had" the worst facilities. No longer the case and l have no clue about the $$$$ folks. As I said in an earlier post, I think UK fans would fill KPP with a team that could challenge the league each year.
 
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Don't know about that, Joker got fired after the Vandy game.

Joker was fired the minute the football team was eliminated from bowl consideration.

Think the same thing would happen with Mingione if he is kept for next year. He would be let go the minute we would be eliminated from qualifying for the SEC Tournament or at the end of the year when we don’t make the NCAA’s.

The thing I like about Mitch when it comes to these kind of moves is he does them more for a “future coach” than the current coach. What I mean is Joker was not given a third year to “save his job” but more of a signal to a possible replacement that I will give you every chance/tool to succeed. In the football world it was saying ‘I’ll give you a good 3 years to show your worth”. With baseball and this years contract extension, it was to help recruiting by eliminating the fact that his contract was going to expire soon which was being used against us in recruiting (same way the interm tag was hurting women’s basketball).
 
I have heard that some players have been told that they will have a game off for a rest and then end up losing their position. No explanation given after the, 'you're going to have tomorrow off for a rest.'
These guys are 18-22 years old and I'm sure they don't need a day of rest. They want to play and I don't blame them. This isn't a 162 game MLB schedule.
 
These guys are 18-22 years old and I'm sure they don't need a day of rest. They want to play and I don't blame them. This isn't a 162 game MLB schedule.

Yea, but that's what some have been told... only to lose their position with no other explanation.
 
UK will have to have open tryouts just to have enough bodies on the roster if Mingione is allowed to return.
I think it depends on whether it is those 2 or 4. 2 wins, probably having this discussion still. 4 wins, probably not discussing it, but I still don't think we're happy. I think we might still want him gone here on this forum, but we'd know Mitch would most definitely be giving him more time.

An interesting aspect will be whether Mitch gives him a break because of the injury. He did in 2018.
Mitch is not firing NM. AFter what happened with Ben on his watch he should’ve been fired the week after the smoke cleared. Name me another program that has had that occur with an active player ( a 4th year player nonetheless).
 
Joker was fired the minute the football team was eliminated from bowl consideration.

Think the same thing would happen with Mingione if he is kept for next year. He would be let go the minute we would be eliminated from qualifying for the SEC Tournament or at the end of the year when we don’t make the NCAA’s.

The thing I like about Mitch when it comes to these kind of moves is he does them more for a “future coach” than the current coach. What I mean is Joker was not given a third year to “save his job” but more of a signal to a possible replacement that I will give you every chance/tool to succeed. In the football world it was saying ‘I’ll give you a good 3 years to show your worth”. With baseball and this years contract extension, it was to help recruiting by eliminating the fact that his contract was going to expire soon which was being used against us in recruiting (same way the interm tag was hurting women’s basketball).
Firing NM would’ve helped not recruiting. By extending him you actually hurt recruiting.
 
Mitch is not firing NM. AFter what happened with Ben on his watch he should’ve been fired the week after the smoke cleared. Name me another program that has had that occur with an active player ( a 4th year player nonetheless).

I'm curious what you mean by this? I don't think its fair to blame Mingione for what happened to Ben Jordan. Unless there is something that hasn't been said.
 
A lot of true things being said here. Let me just throw this out there though........wpuld we be having this discussion if mason would not have gotten hurt? I think we win 2-4 more conference games with him healthy. Doesn't solve the clueless management of personnel, but would have given us a solid arm to maybe, just maybe stop the bleeding.

Thats a question I raised earlier. What would this season look like with Hazelwood. I don't know if UK would have many more wins. I just think the second half of the SEC turned out what I thought all along. But you just never know.
 
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Absolutely correct. From what was mentioned on this board, Mitch was having trouble filling the job last time. I think Cohen recommended Mingione. I can understand why, you have the worst facilities in the SEC and minimal support.
Worst facilities in the league?
 
Absolutely correct. From what was mentioned on this board, Mitch was having trouble filling the job last time. I think Cohen recommended Mingione. I can understand why, you have the worst facilities in the SEC and minimal support.

Barnhartt went for a home run hire and ended with a measly ground out to the pitcher. Mingione from what I heard, never confirmed it because I don't have that kind of access, wasnt even on the radar until Cohen recommended him. If I remember correctly, Greg Goff was actually offered the job but turned it down at the last moment.
 
Barnhartt went for a home run hire and ended with a measly ground out to the pitcher. Mingione from what I heard, never confirmed it because I don't have that kind of access, wasnt even on the radar until Cohen recommended him. If I remember correctly, Greg Goff was actually offered the job but turned it down at the last moment.
I think Barnhart tried to get Pat Casey but he quickly turned it down.
 
Mitch is not firing NM. AFter what happened with Ben on his watch he should’ve been fired the week after the smoke cleared. Name me another program that has had that occur with an active player ( a 4th year player nonetheless).
Does that include Cal as well?
 
I'm curious what you mean by this? I don't think its fair to blame Mingione for what happened to Ben Jordan. Unless there is something that hasn't been said.
I didn’t blame Nick. I said that he I wasn’t surprised that he didn’t defend him. That he didn’t treat Ben well at all
 
I think Barnhart tried to get Pat Casey but he quickly turned it down.

His home run swing was Brian O’Conner from Virginia. There’s debate on wether or not he ever interviewed or never took the call. Pat Casey was on the list as well. So was Dan Heefner.
 
Does that include Cal as well?

I don't know much about the situation, but I once heard that Ben was approached by Cal to play basketball and he agreed and basically didn't care what Mingione thought and never really asked his permission and never really got his blessing because they didn't have a good relationship. That's not how you'll hear it told as you'll hear it claimed that Mingione fully agreed and was so happy for him.
 
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Barnhartt went for a home run hire and ended with a measly ground out to the pitcher. Mingione from what I heard, never confirmed it because I don't have that kind of access, wasnt even on the radar until Cohen recommended him. If I remember correctly, Greg Goff was actually offered the job but turned it down at the last moment.
That’s what I heard. Also heard Mitch was turned down a couple times but no idea if that’s accurate. Wouldn’t surprise me though. You’ll have to get a Skip Bertman type of coach to build from the ground up into a winner. That guy tore it up at LSU.
 
IMO MB gave Mingione the contract to try to come up with a recruiting class. If that’s a fail and we see a train wreck happening next year, my guess is that Mingione will be gone mid year next year.
Yeah, like he did with womens basketball. Stupid if that is the reason but can't think of any other reason.
 
Barnhartt went for a home run hire and ended with a measly ground out to the pitcher. Mingione from what I heard, never confirmed it because I don't have that kind of access, wasnt even on the radar until Cohen recommended him. If I remember correctly, Greg Goff was actually offered the job but turned it down at the last moment.

Thank goodness we didn’t get Goff. IIRC he was shown the door at Alabama after one miserable controversial season and is struggling mightily at Purdue.
 
I just think to have a chance to be in the upper echelon of the SEC you have to be one of the better recruiters there is. If our survival is hanging on to one guy then the recruiting is not near where it needs to be in this league IMO. If Barnhart just grabbed who he could at the time and done the best he could then OK, but the man just had a chance to seek a better manager but chose to put the program on pause another couple of years.
 
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That’s what I heard. Also heard Mitch was turned down a couple times but no idea if that’s accurate. Wouldn’t surprise me though. You’ll have to get a Skip Bertman type of coach to build from the ground up into a winner. That guy tore it up at LSU.

According to Kendall Rogers of D1Baseball, he was turned down several times. I don’t know if the story is archived or not, and I’m no longer a subscriber, but I think I remember Mingione was the 7th or 8th offer.
 
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