According to MJ a Defensive starter will also be suspended with CRod

[SPECT imaging]

Calling BBN "Microwave fans" is also condescending. Who's side is he on?

That is an obtuse argument. I am not here to defend every mistake or misstatement ever made in the 20 year history of Barnhart's tenure. If you insist on focusing on those kinds of things, you can find plenty of fault with anyone you want to criticize. Have you ever made a mistake?

Barnhart is Kentucky's AD. His contract has been renewed several times because he is executing his responsibilities like the president and the board want. I have a pretty good idea why some boosters and angry single-sport fans will never accept him. Those people have their opinions, but they are increasingly peripheral and irrelevant to the business of the university. Barnhart runs Kentucky's athletics programs, and he is getting it done. Vince Marrow thinks so. Eli Capiloulo, David Melanson, and Robert Vance think so. If you don't agree with the school leadership, then you are swimming upstream. Referring to our athletics director as "Barney" and posting incorrect information about his accomplishments in public are acts that are deliberately anti-UK athletics. People who act publicly against Kentucky's athletics department and Kentucky's leadership by being dishonest about school officials deserve a response that challenges them with the truth. You are for UK, or you are not. If you have concerns, come forward with facts, not innuendo.

 

[SPECT imaging]

Jones sold the website. Try and keep up.

If you are saying Jones doesn't have a financial interest, then you need to keep up.

 

[Bereacat420]

Did Jones say what the infraction is?

He didn't

 

[SPECT imaging]

Marrow might truly believe that Barnhart is an asset. But, what else do you expect him to say on a radio/public broadcast? He’s not gonna say anything negative about his boss, publicly, even if he hated him & it was obvious that he was the worst AD in the country. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I have no idea what VM really thinks. But, you can’t put much stock in what ANYBODY says about their superiors in public interviews. I’ve seriously disliked a cpl of my bosses at one time or another. But, if I valued those jobs & my reputation, there is zero chance that I’d say anything that wasn’t complimentary in an interview that I know they would hear or hear about.

To answer, I expect Marrow to say what he thinks. Actually, he is well known for that.

The anti-Mitch corner will never accept anything that frames Barnhart as a successful athletics director, despite the fact that he is exactly that.

For the phonies who say Marrow is forced to defend Barnhart. LOL! Barnhart has so much leverage over Marrow that Marrow can take a similar job at Michigan, Michigan State, or a dozen other P5 schools. Marrow stayed at Kentucky precisely because he believes in the leadership and knows Kentucky football under Barnhart and Stoops is on the way up in the SEC. Watching the anti-Kentucky athletics agenda posters contort to spin these facts backwards is sad, and requires a response. You will never accept my response, but maybe others who read reality might gain something from it.

 

[catben]

Mitch had better figure out a way to MAXIMIZE NIL or he will be HISTORY within 3 years at UK. The IMG deal is the BIGGEST obstacle keeping Mitch from encouraging sponsors to go all in for his biggest programs. The days of Mitch CONTROLLING every dollar connected to UK Athletics has ended and he better adjust to it!!!

UK gets PLENTY of money from the SEC. So ALL of the local money should be concentrated on NIL PERIOD!!!

 

[Uncle Adolph]

Did Ryan agree with anything Matt said ?

 

[SPECT imaging]

Mitch had better figure out a way to MAXIMIZE NIL or he will be HISTORY within 3 years at UK. The IMG deal is the BIGGEST obstacle keeping Mitch from encouraging sponsors to go all in for his biggest programs. The days of Mitch CONTROLLING every dollar connected to UK Athletics has ended and he better adjust to it!!!

UK gets PLENTY of money from the SEC. So ALL of the local money should be concentrated on NIL PERIOD!!!

Questions immediately come to mind.

Did you know that Mr. Barnhart has never independently controlled a University budget? Mr. Barnhart is a department head. His budget is managed under the supervision of David Melanson, Chair of the Trustees Committee on Athletics.

Did you know that Mr. Barnhart has no direct, independent authority to "maximize NIL"? NIL is funded by businesses, independent of UK's budget. The University can and should cultivate these relationships, but the University cannot independently "maximize" them.

Mr. Barnhart's primary responsibility is to manage his department in a fashion that protects all of Kentucky's athletics programs from compliance problems and keeps them competitive in the long term. He has done his job. Mr. Barnhart understands the rules better than any of us. What makes you confident that Mr. Barnhart will be "HISTORY in 3 years"? Did you know that there is no discernible dissatisfaction with Mr. Barnhart on the Board of Trustees?

 

[JHannibalSmith]

To answer, I expect Marrow to say what he thinks. Actually, he is well known for that.

The anti-Mitch corner will never accept anything that frames Barnhart as a successful athletics director, despite the fact that he is exactly that.

For the phonies who say Marrow is forced to defend Barnhart. LOL! Barnhart has so much leverage over Marrow that Marrow can take a similar job at Michigan, Michigan State, or a dozen other P5 schools. Marrow stayed at Kentucky precisely because he believes in the leadership and knows Kentucky football under Barnhart and Stoops is on the way up in the SEC. Watching the anti-Kentucky athletics agenda posters contort to spin these facts backwards is sad, and requires a response. You will never accept my response, but maybe others who read reality might gain something from it.

I won’t accept a response from anyone who lashes out like a toddler & hurls insults & cheap shots at anybody who disagrees with them. Pathetic. I said nothing rude or disrespectful to you & have never made an anti-UK athletics statement in my life, online or otherwise. But, I suppose anyone who disagrees with you is a troll or hates UK, right?

And, speaking of reality, you are delusional if you think ANY coach, who cares about his job & reputation, would say one negative word about his boss, publicly, regardless of the leverage that coach may have. Public criticism of his boss would lessen or totally destroy any leverage that a coach might have. Most ADs would think twice about hiring a coach who has a history of calling out &/or insulting his superiors in public interviews, even if that coach is correct. It’s classless & most ADs aren’t looking to hire trouble making headaches like that.

All I said was that you can’t take VM’s praise of MB at face value bc it was in an interview that everyone could hear & most ppl won’t trash their boss, publicly. I even said you might be right & that I have no idea what VM truly thinks. None of us do. Including you. But, apparently, your fragile ego can’t handle opposing opinions & you resort to childish attacks & name calling. THAT is what’s sad.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

That is an obtuse argument. I am not here to defend every mistake or misstatement ever made in the 20 year history of Barnhart's tenure. If you insist on focusing on those kinds of things, you can find plenty of fault with anyone you want to criticize. Have you ever made a mistake?

Barnhart is Kentucky's AD. His contract has been renewed several times because he is executing his responsibilities like the president and the board want. I have a pretty good idea why some boosters and angry single-sport fans will never accept him. Those people have their opinions, but they are increasingly peripheral and irrelevant to the business of the university. Barnhart runs Kentucky's athletics programs, and he is getting it done. Vince Marrow thinks so. Eli Capiloulo, David Melanson, and Robert Vance think so. If you don't agree with the school leadership, then you are swimming upstream. Referring to our athletics director as "Barney" and posting incorrect information about his accomplishments in public are acts that are deliberately anti-UK athletics. People who act publicly against Kentucky's athletics department and Kentucky's leadership by being dishonest about school officials deserve a response that challenges them with the truth. You are for UK, or you are not. If you have concerns, come forward with facts, not innuendo.

You seem to be taking an innocent name like "Barney" far too serious and oddly far too personally. Calling someone "anti-UK athletics," or saying "you are for UK, or you are not" seems a bit cultish, if not Mafioso for me. He doesn't sit on a throne and is not beyond critique.

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

You seem to be taking an innocent name like "Barney" far too serious and oddly far too personally. Calling someone "anti-UK athletics," or saying "you are for UK, or you are not" seems a bit cultish, if not Mafioso for me. He doesn't sit on a throne and is not beyond critique.

SPECT may be Mrs. Barney.

 

[SPECT imaging]

SPECT may be Mrs. Barney.

Faced with facts, you have a choice between adapting your opinions or clinging to them. Now you are rationalizing what you already believe. I am a UK alumnus and an interventional radiologist living on the Florida coast.

 

[SPECT imaging]

You seem to be taking an innocent name like "Barney" far too serious and oddly far too personally. Calling someone "anti-UK athletics," or saying "you are for UK, or you are not" seems a bit cultish, if not Mafioso for me. He doesn't sit on a throne and is not beyond critique.

I have not suggested anyone is "beyond critique". You made that up. It is not relevant to anything I said. Likewise, there is nothing "cultish" about a UK grad supporting my school's leadership. That segue is transparent. If you had factual knowledge, you would know that the Board of Trustees and a large majority of alumni support UK's leadership. So you are in the negative cult, not me. Bringing the mafia into this discussion is inflammatory.

Just have some stones and be honest about it. You and I both know that the nickname "Barney" is not intended to be "innocent". It is only used here by Mr. Barnhart's impulsive critics. Mr. Barnhart is doing his job. He is part of a leadership team, and he has the support of the Board of Trustees. That is why the Trustees have continued to extend his contract and give him raises. So you know the truth.

 

[YaketySax]

It’s 2022 in the year of our Lord and we are still arguing about Barnhart online like opposing opinions can be changed.

 

[YaketySax]

It’s 2022 in the year of our Lord and we are still arguing about Barnhart online like opposing opinions can be changed.

Godwins Law except for BBN message boards it’s MB instead of Hitler.

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

Faced with facts, you have a choice between adapting your opinions or clinging to them. Now you are rationalizing what you already believe. I am a UK alumnus and an interventional radiologist living on the Florida coast.

I thought Caveman was Messenger but looky here. Sorry Cavie - got my pompous, know-it-all, a-holes confused.

 

[SPECT imaging]

I thought Caveman was Messenger but looky here. Sorry Cavie - got my pompous, know-it-all, a-holes confused.

When you cannot win a discussion based on facts, make it personal and smear their source. I guess it is predictable these days. That malarky often passes for competence here. I am who I am. If I was someone else, as you want to believe now, demonstrated facts would still be facts.

Raising questions about a UK official based on demonstrable facts is perfectly honest. Smearing people with innuendo because they have a broader comprehension than you have is pathetic. There is a large difference.

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

When you cannot win a discussion based on facts, make it personal and smear their source. I guess it is predictable these days. That malarky often passes for competence here. I am who I am. If I was someone else, as you want to believe now, demonstrated facts would still be facts.

Raising questions about a UK official based on demonstrable facts is perfectly honest. Smearing people with innuendo because they have a broader comprehension than you have is pathetic.

Take a chill pill, Messenger. Not all of us are Barney fans - no need to get your thong in a wad.

His lack of forward thinking and innovation, his bean counter mentality, and his stance on things like alcohol (letting his religious beliefs trump common sense while pandering to thr rich) and NIL (coaches begging for help publicly) have a lot of folks alarmed. Throw in his lack of public relatiion skills and inability to handle a coach like Cal and its over.

He has done a lot of good but his time has passed. Time to move on and get a forward thinker in seat.

 

[Ed323232]

If you are saying Jones doesn't have a financial interest, then you need to keep up.

Explain it to me then. Let’s see how much you know.

 

[Ed323232]

SPECT may be Mrs. Barney.

🤔🤔🤔

 

[billoliver40]

Well, for all the Mitch haters, its more than likely he retires at UK...and if not, he is really well thought of by other universities and athletic publications.
So he wouldnt have trouble finding a job if he wanted.

Of course, theres a guy named Jurich that might give you exactly what you want.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

He just said it was Jordan wright

 

[Eccain01]

Still blaming Matt Jones for everything i see

 

[calismyhero]

Yal argue on here about some really stupid shit. Geez…

 

[SECCountry75]

When you cannot win a discussion based on facts, make it personal and smear their source. I guess it is predictable these days. That malarky often passes for competence here. I am who I am. If I was someone else, as you want to believe now, demonstrated facts would still be facts.

Raising questions about a UK official based on demonstrable facts is perfectly honest. Smearing people with innuendo because they have a broader comprehension than you have is pathetic. There is a large difference.

When you cannot win a discussion based on facts, make it personal and smear their source. I guess it is predictable these days. That malarky often passes for competence here. I am who I am. If I was someone else, as you want to believe now, demonstrated facts would still be facts.

Raising questions about a UK official based on demonstrable facts is perfectly honest. Smearing people with innuendo because they have a broader comprehension than you have is pathetic. There is a large difference.

Spect, a couple weeks ago, one of the board's bomb throwers accused me of having multiple identities and being another poster that I am not. This has become the default putdown tactic here when a Mitch hater or a Stoops hater gets called out, or when the bomb thrower cannot support his negative post with verifiable information. You will not change these people. They enjoy the conflict, and they perpetuate it. They are not here for the sports. I and others think you make sense. We need to get back to football, because the season is upon us.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

I have little doubt that fans, boosters, players and coaches at other SEC schools are getting a good chuckle out of this. UK cracks down on a few 'no-show jobs' for athletes and suspends key players for multiple games. Lol.
This is beginner-level stuff for programs around the SEC. Not just Bama, Georgia, LSU, TAMU and UT either.
UK looks kinda silly IMO for making a big deal out of it. One game suspensions MAX for everyone involved. End of discussion.

I just re-watched the old two-part ESPN 30 for 30 about The U (Miami football) last night and you know the stuff that went on there as recently as 10 years ago is still happening everywhere in big time college athletics. If anything it's easier to get away with now than back then!
People get all torn up about Dook, UNCheat and Kansas in basketball for their cheating. That's nothing compared to what has happened and is still happening in college football. Look at the money college football generates. It dwarfs bball.
Honestly, I'd be more upset to learn UK wasn't cheating in some way.

 

[SPECT imaging]

Spect, a couple weeks ago, one of the board's bomb throwers accused me of having multiple identities and being another poster that I am not. This has become the default putdown tactic here when a Mitch hater or a Stoops hater gets called out, or when the bomb thrower cannot support his negative post with verifiable information. You will not change these people. They enjoy the conflict, and they perpetuate it. They are not here for the sports. I and others think you make sense. We need to get back to football, because the season is upon us.

I saw where you were accused. I respect your restraint because they came after you over nothing. You are probably right. Appreciated. It is football time. Go Cats!

 

[Wildcats1st]

Calling him "Barney" is condescending. Whose side are you on? How many people here have a clue what the job entails? Not many. That is a fact.

Vince Marrow knows what the job entails. Multiple times, Marrow has said Barnhart is an asset to the football program. Who to believe, you or Marrow?

He says that to stay in Barney’s good graces it’s called boot lickin or Ass kissing

 

[SPECT imaging]

He says that to stay in Barney’s good graces it’s called boot lickin or Ass kissing

I am not going to get drawn into this again. If you want, you can read my prior posts on this thread and you will have my response. Or not. It doesn't matter.

 

[K_TIME]

I have little doubt that fans, boosters, players and coaches at other SEC schools are getting a good chuckle out of this. UK cracks down on a few 'no-show jobs' for athletes and suspends key players for multiple games. Lol.
This is beginner-level stuff for programs around the SEC. Not just Bama, Georgia, LSU, TAMU and UT either.
UK looks kinda silly IMO for making a big deal out of it. One game suspensions MAX for everyone involved. End of discussion.

I just re-watched the old two-part ESPN 30 for 30 about The U (Miami football) last night and you know the stuff that went on there as recently as 10 years ago is still happening everywhere in big time college athletics. If anything it's easier to get away with now than back then!
People get all torn up about Dook, UNCheat and Kansas in basketball for their cheating. That's nothing compared to what has happened and is still happening in college football. Look at the money college football generates. It dwarfs bball.
Honestly, I'd be more upset to learn UK wasn't cheating in some way.

Agree. But the moral high horsers don’t realize it’s not even a rule any more for a payer to get $$$ for basically nothing in return

Wandale makes a cool 150k off of Stockton mortgage….he probably sent in a photo of himself And recorded a 20 second radio add and he’s out of town for a long time…he’ll probably never even use that place to buy a home….yet we’re getting three game suspension over possible no work payment from UK hospital…geez Louise 😵‍💫

 

[jauk11]

I have little doubt that fans, boosters, players and coaches at other SEC schools are getting a good chuckle out of this. UK cracks down on a few 'no-show jobs' for athletes and suspends key players for multiple games. Lol.
This is beginner-level stuff for programs around the SEC. Not just Bama, Georgia, LSU, TAMU and UT either.
UK looks kinda silly IMO for making a big deal out of it. One game suspensions MAX for everyone involved. End of discussion.

I just re-watched the old two-part ESPN 30 for 30 about The U (Miami football) last night and you know the stuff that went on there as recently as 10 years ago is still happening everywhere in big time college athletics. If anything it's easier to get away with now than back then!
People get all torn up about Dook, UNCheat and Kansas in basketball for their cheating. That's nothing compared to what has happened and is still happening in college football. Look at the money college football generates. It dwarfs bball.
Honestly, I'd be more upset to learn UK wasn't cheating in some way.

Didn't I read somewhere that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying? Probably came from a Thug U site.

I hate cheaters and cheating but in the SEC cheating is rampart and I don't want to cheat and don't advocate it' but our AD's squeaky clean image is an overaction in my opinion. It doesn't have to be proven at UK, all it takes is to be accused. Several good examples since we got our missionary AD to run our athletic department, Suspending half of our DBs for half a season a good example. Guilty if accused.

What happened to the mission he wanted to go on over a decade ago, hasn't he made enough yet to pay for the boat ride? Give the man a raise.

 

[kl40504]

That certainly makes a lot of sense. Why not just honestly wish the whole team leaves?

Vince Marrow says Barnhart is an asset to the football program. Actually, Marrow has said it more than once. I am highly inclined to believe Marrow. You know?

And since Marrow believes Barnhart is an asset, while Jones keeps reporting snippets that suggest otherwise, I believe Jones is posting click bait that does not come from Marrow. It is in Marrow's interests for the football program to prosper. It is in Jones' interests for KSR to get as many clicks as possible. Anyone who understands online businesses knows the basic business conflict there.

Jones would make a good reporter for CNN. Actually he may already be snitching for them.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

I have not suggested anyone is "beyond critique". You made that up. It is not relevant to anything I said. Likewise, there is nothing "cultish" about a UK grad supporting my school's leadership. That segue is transparent. If you had factual knowledge, you would know that the Board of Trustees and a large majority of alumni support UK's leadership. So you are in the negative cult, not me. Bringing the mafia into this discussion is inflammatory.

Just have some stones and be honest about it. You and I both know that the nickname "Barney" is not intended to be "innocent". It is only used here by Mr. Barnhart's impulsive critics. Mr. Barnhart is doing his job. He is part of a leadership team, and he has the support of the Board of Trustees. That is why the Trustees have continued to extend his contract and give him raises. So you know the truth.

So, you didn't suggest or infer that he was "beyond critique" (my words), but shortening Barnhart to Barney is verboten in your view? If you believe nicknames or merely shortening someone's last name is not "intended to be innocent" then I have a bone to pick with most of my friends growing up, as well as they do with me. I mean, who knew they were sinister and malevolent? (Once again, my words and yes, that was mockery).

 

[kl40504]

SPECT may be Mrs. Barney.

And you could be Mrs Crums bald spot

 

[jauk11]

So, you didn't suggest or infer that he was "beyond critique" (my words), but shortening Barnhart to Barney is verboten in your view? If you believe nicknames or merely shortening someone's last name is not "intended to be innocent" then I have a bone to pick with most of my friends growing up, as well as they do with me. I mean, who knew they were sinister and malevolent? (Once again, my words and yes, that was mockery).

Spect, a couple weeks ago, one of the board's bomb throwers accused me of having multiple identities and being another poster that I am not. This has become the default putdown tactic here when a Mitch hater or a Stoops hater gets called out, or when the bomb thrower cannot support his negative post with verifiable information. You will not change these people. They enjoy the conflict, and they perpetuate it. They are not here for the sports. I and others think you make sense. We need to get back to football, because the season is upon us.

Seems like it is very difficult to convince anyone on here anything just using facts, I have been vilified on here for pointing out the FACT that UK football was destroyed by having NO improvements during mitch's first decade here. UK football might not have made it if the SEC football teams hadn't started to throw obscene amounts of money at us from their football programs TV contracts. And yes, I know you are tired of hearing it but I think it is important to point it out before he does it again. SEC football saved us, not our glorious leader. That led us to the glorious TWO consecutive seasons with two OOC nobody wins. And one of those seasons belonged to our present great coach who saw changes HAD to be made with the support system and ASKED for the job. I am not sure who else would have taken the job.

"They sposed to be SEC".

 

[ace on the river]

That certainly makes a lot of sense. Why not just honestly wish the whole team leaves?

Vince Marrow says Barnhart is an asset to the football program. Actually, Marrow has said it more than once. I am highly inclined to believe Marrow. You know?

And since Marrow believes Barnhart is an asset, while Jones keeps reporting snippets that suggest otherwise, I believe Jones is posting click bait that does not come from Marrow. It is in Marrow's interests for the football program to prosper. It is in Jones' interests for KSR to get as many clicks as possible. Anyone who understands online businesses knows the basic business conflict there.

What would you expect Vince to say about HIS BOSS?