The conference is not very good this year. There might be a whole lot of new coaches next year. Louisville, Duke and Clemson are safe but the rest of them idk🤷🏼
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And funny enough, this is why the league is so down right now. They've lost some very successful coaches in the last handful of years and the only replacement that's really done well so far is Scheyer.
ACC Conference? More like ASS Conference!
It's beyond terrible...so terrible it has dumbass
UL fans thinking they're title contenders lol
It's beyond terrible...so terrible it has dumbass
UL fans thinking they're title contenders lol
ACC is garbage, but UL fans (delusional) think they can beat most teams in SEC.
Tennessee, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and
Ole Miss say othwise.
Their record since conference started is only 50%. Karl Ravech.
How is UNC First Four Out? I thought they were Next Four Out last week.
Men's Bracketology: Beware the nonconference strength of schedule factor
BYU is currently the last team in, but history tells us the selection committee doesn't look too kindly upon a nonconference SOS ranking like that of the Cougars.
www.espn.com
How is UNC First Four Out? I thought they were Next Four Out last week.
Men's Bracketology: Beware the nonconference strength of schedule factor
BYU is currently the last team in, but history tells us the selection committee doesn't look too kindly upon a nonconference SOS ranking like that of the Cougars.www.espn.com
They beat mighty Pittsburgh
Because they have won 2 of their last 7 games. They are obviously trending in the right direction. 😂How is UNC First Four Out? I thought they were Next Four Out last week.
Men's Bracketology: Beware the nonconference strength of schedule factor
BYU is currently the last team in, but history tells us the selection committee doesn't look too kindly upon a nonconference SOS ranking like that of the Cougars.www.espn.com
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They are talking about the NIT. They are one of the last 4 in.😭How is UNC First Four Out? I thought they were Next Four Out last week.
Men's Bracketology: Beware the nonconference strength of schedule factor
BYU is currently the last team in, but history tells us the selection committee doesn't look too kindly upon a nonconference SOS ranking like that of the Cougars.www.espn.com
The ACC went 4-30 vs the SEC this year.
EVERY ACC team lost to at least 1 SEC team.
EVERY SEC team best at least 1 ACC team.
Even the worst SEC team, USC 0-11, beat the team tied w/UL (Clemson) for 2nd in ACC.
If in SEC, UL would be right there with Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma.
Imagine playing California and Stanford this week like Duke has. Freaking cake walk to a 1 seed. No way should they be rewarded cause they beat a bunch of high school teams.
Wasn't this how it was for Kentucky in the SEC for the past 30 years up until like 2 years ago?
The conference is .500 as a whole since January.
They have lost every coach basically. The longest tenured coach is Brad Brownell.
They have played 2 competitive teams in 2 months basically. One fairly close win at UofL and one loss at Clemson.
And we were often not seeded as high because of that!
But I would say the ACC this year is even worse than the SEC was most of the past 35 years.
Looking at the NET rankings of the 18 ACC teams:
- only 1 in the top 25
- just 5 in the top 50 (almost 4 since UNC is at #50)
- 10 are in the top 100 (barely over half, but almost 9 since ND is #99)
- 3 are outside the top 150
- 2 are outside the top 200
In comparison, looking at the other P5 Conferences:
- B12 (16 teams) only has 1 outside top 100 (#107)
- Big East (11 teams) only has 2 outside top 100 (#129, #223)
- B10 (18 teams) all are in top 100
- SEC (16 teams) all are in top 100
So out of the 79 P5 schools, the ACC has 4 of the 5 worst teams, 8 of the 11 worst teams.
I'm not sure the SEC was ever that bad.
I strongly believe that if Duke were in the SEC they would be right there with us, UT, Mizzou and Miss St in the middle of the pack.
The SEC was never close to being as bad as the ACC has now become. Not even close. The ACC is historically awful.
Florida, Arkansas, UT, SCAR, Miss St, Auburn have all had solid runs at different times over the past 30 years. Sometimes congruently, sometimes at different times.
No, the SEC was not ACC level good over the past 20 plus years, but the SEC was never this ACC level bad.
The conference is a joke and is nothing more then a midmajor conference. Duke has played one conference opponent, and let me repeat, one conference opponent, who is currently ranked. And they lost. Put Duke in the SEC and they would have 3-5 conference losses at this point. Without a question.
Maybe. But I think Duke would be right there with Auburn/Alabama with 1-2 conference losses.
I mean...the metrics state Duke is right on par with Auburn and better than Alabama.
When I think “Atlantic Coast” I certainly think Berkley and Palo Alto, California.
The SEC has always ebbed and flowed. It was pretty strong early to mid 80s.
It was really strong in the mid 90s. From 1994-98 An SEC team was in every title game, won 3 championships and had two FF teams in both 1994 and 1996. The league was pretty strong early 2000s but fell off a cliff after Florida went back to back. 2009 was the low point - 2 SEC teams made the tournament and the league champ got an 8 seed, tournament champ was a 9 or 10.
Cal enjoyed a fairly weak SEC for his first decade, but it got much tougher when the league started making an effort to concentrate on basketball. Football realignment has changed the game and the ACC on paper appears to now be the weakest conference in both football and men’s basketball. This can always change, of course.
That's your opinion, which is fine.
However, Duke has only played one team in the ACC that is currently ranked. They lost (and Clemson only entered the top 25 b/c they beat Duke, IIRC). Duke has also played two SEC schools this year and split.
What makes you think Duke would only have 1-2 losses in the SEC when they lost to the only ranked team in the ACC they played, and split against the two SEC teams they played? Doesn't add up at all, to me.
No we always played tough out of conference games losing our share, plus SEC games have always had tough games like TN, FL, and teams like LSU and Auburn have been good for a while. Playing 1 ranked team in last 6 weeks is what lead you to this board. Don't mind us we are just a nobody.
Duke played Kentucky, Kansas, @ Arizona, and Auburn in the non-conference. Does that qualify as playing a tough non conference schedule?
Because the advanced stats and metrics tell me that Duke is equal to Auburn and better than Alabama.
Both of those teams have 1 conference loss. So 2 conference losses for Duke would be too much actually, they would have 1.
Those are 100% irrelevant.
Duke lost to Clemson, the only ranked team they have played in the ACC. They also split with UK/Auburn.
Yet, they would not lose against UT, UF, A&M, Bama, Mizzou, or any of the other SEC schools ranked in the top 25? Duke couldn't even beat Clemson or UK, yet they wouldn't have any losses to the above teams? They would just beat them all?
No offense, but you are out of your mind and your logic is alarmingly poor.
Basing what Duke would do, or any other team for that matter, because they lost to some other team is silly. Ky got blown out by Ohio st and Ohio St has 7 losses in the big 10, so Ky would lose more than 7 in that conference? I don't think so. Florida beat UT by 30, then lost to UT by 20. Making judgements based on one game doesn't work.
Who is making judgments off one game? I gave three examples.
Duke couldn't beat the only ranked team on their conference schedule. Couldn't do it. They also couldn't beat UK, but they beat Auburn.
Yet you Duke fans, coming over to a UK board, expect us to think that Duke would only have 1-2 losses max in the SEC when Duke is playing midmajors night in and night out and losing to the only ranked team they have played?
Unbelievable.
I never made a statement about what Duke would do in the SEC or how many losses they would have. I am simply pointing out that losing to clemson has absolutely nothing to do with how a Duke - UT or Duke - Florida game would come out. Duke beat Auburn and Arizona and had close losses to Ky and Kansas. Me, you , or anyone else has an inkling what place they would be in if they were in the SEC. That's all I'm saying and it's fact. Every guru in the country had Uconn winning the big east this year going away. They were heavy favorites when the year started. Now look, 4th place. No, I'm not saying Duke would be higher or lower than anyone else in the SEC, I'm saying no one knows.
Players almost never stay committed if a coach is fired. Idk if UNC will fire him yet or not but could be interesting
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