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Acaden Lewis de-commits

I haven’t read any of this thread but maybe because we are getting the Lee kid from Princeton.
 
This is lazy. You can easily scroll up and see the words I typed.

People like security. If they feel like someone is double talking them, then their eyes shift elsewhere. You keep making this about Lewis, but Lewis isn’t responsible for roster construction. He is responsible for doing what’s best for him. And Pope and UK failed to make Lewis believe that UK is best for him.
All well, so be it. Pope and UK has to do what's best for UK. If Lewis doesn't feel UK's vision meshes with his own then this is for the best. The reality is that having Lewis as the primary PG as a freshman isnt whats best for us. It is what it is, you move on.
 
This is lazy. You can easily scroll up and see the words I typed.

People like security. If they feel like someone is double talking them, then their eyes shift elsewhere. You keep making this about Lewis, but Lewis isn’t responsible for roster construction. He is responsible for doing what’s best for him. And Pope and UK failed to make Lewis believe that UK is best for him.
Specifically, what was the double talk? Lewis and his dad were made aware from day-one that there would be a veteran add from the portal. His dad was even gushing about it a few weeks ago.

The only angle I can see is one where the Lewis family was told the veteran piece was going to be a senior, and not an incoming junior.

Even still, let's say UK added Dent instead of Lowe. Dent graduates a year from now in this scenario. The logic on their end is still shortsighted because UK would have went back to the portal and added another competent point guard to compete with a sophomore-to-be Lewis.

No matter what, he's competing with competent guards in any scenario.

That's why I think tampering makes more sense. Someone out there offered him more money and more minutes.
 
Come on Jamal, you KNOW as well as I do that co.fort and assurances are not the driving force or the solution in this case. Somebody offered him more money and a starters job. Obviously Pope wasn't going to be held hostage by either demamd

No, neither of us know that. 🤣🤣🤣

If Pope wanted to retain Lewis, get his ass on a plane once Lowe signed and make him feel safe. It’s the job.
 
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This is lazy. You can easily scroll up and see the words I typed.

People like security. If they feel like someone is double talking them, then their eyes shift elsewhere. You keep making this about Lewis, but Lewis isn’t responsible for roster construction. He is responsible for doing what’s best for him. And Pope and UK failed to make Lewis believe that UK is best for him.
I think maybe what was best for UK and best for Lewis then was not the same thing.

One thing I have zero doubt about is that Pope will always err on the side of what’s best for the program. That’s obviously one of the biggest problems most UK fans had with Cal. He did what he felt was best for the player. At first that was beneficial for all, but by the end the program just wasn’t winning.

But IMO those things are not mutually exclusive. If Lewis was patient and wanted to truly be challenged like he stated, it would’ve been a win-win situation.

I truly wish the kid the best but if he wanted to be given the keys he needed to earn them.
 
All well, so be it. Pope and UK has to do what's best for UK. If Lewis doesn't feel UK's vision meshes with his own then this is for the best. The reality is that having Lewis as the primary PG as a freshman isnt whats best for us. It is what it is, you move on.

Pope also thought having Butler & Krissa was a better alternative than Fears… how’d that work out?
 
Lewis' father spells his name JaRett , look it up on twitter. This spelling in the case is JaRRet Lewis. Not the same person.
Nope, that is his dad. His name is just spelled wrong in the DOJ press release. It is well known in recruiting circles.

Here is the link to the Indictment, which has the correct spelling: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/media/1366536/dl

For even more proof, his LinkedIn profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarett-lewis-5b894b211/) shows he lives in DC and is a "Director of Finance," and as the DOJ press release makes clear, Lewis was based in DC and was the "Direct of Finance" at the non-profit victim. P.S. -- I do this for a living (criminal defense).
 
This is lazy. You can easily scroll up and see the words I typed.

People like security. If they feel like someone is double talking them, then their eyes shift elsewhere. You keep making this about Lewis, but Lewis isn’t responsible for roster construction. He is responsible for doing what’s best for him. And Pope and UK failed to make Lewis believe that UK is best for him.
Well, I think the kid made the right decision. I agree with others that it was a weak move because he was here to “compete” and “grow”. Seemingly, he wasn’t willing to do either of those.

However, I can understand why Lewis was scared. People pointing out Lowe shot 38% are correct. However that only tells a small part of the story. Lamont Butler, in his sophomore season, shot less than one percent different percentage from the field that Jaland Lowe did. However, Butler didn’t have the speed, ball handling, passing ability etc that Lowe already has. After Butler’s junior year, we know he transferred to play under Pope and increased his FG% to 0.498. With Lowe, I expect a major increase in efficiency —- Pope may already have his point guard.
 
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Pope also thought having Butler & Krissa was a better alternative than Fears… how’d that work out?
Ok… I just spent a bunch of time replying to one of your other posts before I saw this one. I’ll tell you if I had saw this one first I would not have wasted my time. I see now this an agenda thing for you. You’re an anti-Pope person and you think your posts are persuasive to get others to follow suit.
 
Specifically, what was the double talk? Lewis and his dad were made aware from day-one that there would be a veteran add from the portal. His dad was even gushing about it a few weeks ago.

The only angle I can see is one where the Lewis family was told the veteran piece was going to be a senior, and not an incoming junior.

Even still, let's say UK added Dent instead of Lowe. Dent graduates a year from now in this scenario. The logic on their end is still shortsighted because UK would have went back to the portal and added another competent point guard to compete with a sophomore-to-be Lewis.

No matter what, he's competing with competent guards in any scenario.

That's why I think tampering makes more sense. Someone out there offered him more money and more minutes.
Or Lewis may compete with likes of freshman Kinney

I prefer Kinney over him
 
No, neither of us know that. 🤣🤣🤣

If Pope wanted to retain Lewis, get his ass on a plane once Lowe signed and make him feel safe. It’s the job.
So its your position then that he is leaving UK for less money. A reasonable person might also infer he would demand a promise of more minutes from any new school he went to since the possible loss of minutes here appeared to be a motivating factor in his departur Your point about Pope wanting to retain a talented kid at any costs is kind of silly. Wanting something and grossly overpaying for it are 2 different animals so maybe you might consider that Pope didnt get on a plane because he determined his team had more pressing needs or could better use the sum the kid was going to be paid was not in the TEAMS best interest.
 
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I found our backup PG. I kid. I kid.


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I just saw his name in the portal. Thinking that isnt a very common last name I looked to see if Rick or Scott was his dad. Lo and behold it was Big Poppa Pump.
 
Ok… I just spent a bunch of time replying to one of your other posts before I saw this one. I’ll tell you if I had saw this one first I would not have wasted my time. I see now this an agenda thing for you. You’re an anti-Pope person and you think your posts are persuasive to get others to follow suit.
Wrong. Wish Pope nothing but success. I’m loyal to the soil. And he’s one of us.

I disagree with the philosophy of preferring transfer portal players with lower ceilings to top end high school talent. It’s shortsighted.
 
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Pope also thought having Butler & Krissa was a better alternative than Fears… how’d that work out?
I love Fears, but I still take a healthy Butler over him last season, just because of experience.

Butler was hurt and still took his team farther than Fears could.

Butler had better players around him, but still.

For college, Butler > Fears.

Fears will have a better pro career, though.
 
Wrong. Wish Pope nothing but success. I’m loyal to the soil. And he’s one of us.

I disagree with the philosophy of preferring transfer portal players with lower ceilings to top end high school talent. It’s shortsighted.
Ok fair enough. I think that’s silly given the fact that the majority makeup of nearly every national championship team is built off continuity not top end high school talent. But regardless if that’s your view, what’s the point in all this commotion. If you’re true blue to your fiber, support your coach, man.
 
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Pretty sure your timeline is off. Almost positive Fears reclassified after Butler and Kriisa were signed, so Pope didn't even think he was an option until it was too late.
He could’ve gotten Fears and make either of those 2 reconsider or deal with it.
 
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Ok fair enough. I think that’s silly given the fact that the majority makeup of nearly every national championship team is built off continuity not top end high school talent. But regardless if that’s your view, what’s the point in all this commotion. If you’re true blue to your fiber, support your coach, man.
I also support honest discourse not blind cultish behavior. Criticism is healthy
 
Wrong. Wish Pope nothing but success. I’m loyal to the soil. And he’s one of us.

I disagree with the philosophy of preferring transfer portal players with lower ceilings to top end high school talent. It’s shortsighted.

By the way:

2025 - Florida
2024 - UConn
2023 - UConn
2022 - Kansas
2021 - Baylor
2019 - Virginia
2018 - Villanova
2017 - North Carolina
2016 - Villanova
2015 - Duke
2014 - UConn
2013 - Louisville*
2012 - Kentucky
2011 - UConn
2010 - Duke
2009 - North Carolina
2008 - Kansas
2007 - Florida
2006 - Florida
2005 - North Carolina
2004 - UConn
2003 - Syracuse
2002 - Maryland
2001 - Duke
2000 - Michigan State
1999 - UConn
1998 - Kentucky
1997 - Arizona
1996 - Kentucky
1995 - UCLA
1994 - Arkansas
1993 - North Carolina
1992 - Duke
1991 - Duke
1990 - UNLV

Understand that in today’s CBB word, those top end HS talent you’re referring to do NOT stay in college for more than one season. We refer to them as OAD.

So, if you want to question the coach, and it is your right to do so if you wish, we should both acknowledge, if you are attempting to be honest, that the goal at Kentucky is to win national championships.

Therefore, I’ve given you the sample of every national champion since 1990. What you should do is put yourself in the mind of the coach and ask yourself, “Are there trends that exist with this sample of national champions? If so, what are they? How can this knowledge be utilized at Kentucky so that we have the BEST chance to win more titles?” If that common thread amongst that sample of champions is that the majority of them had the top high school talent, then you have your answer.


Is that what the data says?

Is it? Or is just your feelings? I’d hope Pope analyzes the data to decide how to build the team rather than feelings. Feelings are how you end up winning zero championships since 2012, rather than adapting to reality. Sadly, that’s what happened with our last coach.
 
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Pope also thought having Butler & Krissa was a better alternative than Fears… how’d that work out?

Pope had limited time to assemble a roster and did a damn good job at it. I'm not going to, in hindsight, say he needed to do this or that because a freshman that liked UK ended up averaging 5 or 6 more points and 1 more rebound while shooting over 10% less from 3 and 6 % less overall. Remember when pitino lost Rondo because he wanted telfair? Hindsight is 20/20
 
He could’ve gotten Fears and make either of those 2 reconsider or deal with it.
What evidence do you have that “he could’ve gotten Fears”?

Fears was committed to Illinois until July then switched to Oklahoma …also in July …nearly immediately after he decomitted. I’ve seen no evidence that he ever seriously considered UK during that extremely brief period when he was available.

Seems like you’re just making shit up to fit some agenda you have.
 
Nope, that is his dad. His name is just spelled wrong in the DOJ press release. It is well known in recruiting circles.

Here is the link to the Indictment, which has the correct spelling: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/media/1366536/dl

For even more proof, his LinkedIn profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarett-lewis-5b894b211/) shows he lives in DC and is a "Director of Finance," and as the DOJ press release makes clear, Lewis was based in DC and was the "Direct of Finance" at the non-profit victim. P.S. -- I do this for a living (criminal defense).
well , thats a bad sign for our system if the DOJ is flubbing spelling of names , who's in charge the Kraken lady? But you are right and now I've changed my mind. Lewis leaving is best for us. too much can go sideways with a player having to deal with a parent in trouble like that
 
Acaden definitely going to UNC or Duke.
Does UNC have a PG right now?
I think both guards they signed are two's.
He's not good enough to be guaranteed a start at Duke.
He would have to battle it out with Boozer and Duke may opt to get a PG out of the portal.
 
He could’ve gotten Fears and make either of those 2 reconsider or deal with it.
So you are saying we should have gone after Fears to upgrade out roster and let Butler and kriisa deal with it, even it it means leaving? So you mean, literally EXACTLY what we did with Lewis? Lol, contradiction there bub. You can atleast admit the ironic contradiction, right?
 
Does UNC have a PG right now?
I think both guards they signed are two's.
He's not good enough to be guaranteed a start at Duke.
He would have to battle it out with Boozer and Duke may opt to get a PG out of the portal.
This will be UNC pg1


UNC already has a pg transfer from proven tournament team (Colorado State starts to play well and sneaks into tournament when this guy plays 1), this guy is PG1

Acaden will be PG2 there

Again, if Acaden is willing to be pg2 for UNC/Duke (which proves he never loves UK), I will be very pissed
 
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