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A lot of coaches are looking to get out of the game lately. Here’s another.

Greg McDermott has done so much for Creighton Basketball throughout his tenure. Loved the beat down his team put of UofL. These older coaches should do what Davidson and Oklahoma have. Bring on a famous alumni like an NBA player in the assistant GM role like Curry and Trae Young to work on putting together an NIL fund to help take some of this load off of them.
 
None of the old guard are excited to deal with a the currents of bullshit we're currently experiencing. Don't blame em.

I can't blame them either, but at least they're doing the right thing and bowing out. Unlike someone else we know. And also s bot doing it two weeks before the season (Looking at you Bennett.)

Let the younger guys like Golden, Pope, May, etc who WANT to get better and succeed in this challenging time have at it.


Surprised we haven't heard anything on Barnes yet.
 
Greg McDermott has done so much for Creighton Basketball throughout his tenure. Loved the beat down his team put of UofL. These older coaches should do what Davidson and Oklahoma have. Bring on a famous alumni like an NBA player in the assistant GM role like Curry and Trae Young to work on putting together an NIL fund to help take some of this load off of them.
For some of these coaches, it's not about the need "take the load off them". It's not about pressure. It's the principal (and wrong) of paying collegiate athletes to play a sport.
 
For some of these coaches, it's not about the need "take the load off them". It's not about pressure. It's the principal (and wrong) of paying collegiate athletes to play a sport.

I'm not wild about the millions being promised to them, but to act like a kid shouldn't have been able to make money of gear with his name on it or able to charge for signatures is not kosher.
 
I’d imagine that if the ncaa would have been smarter about how they caved into the “pay for play” and rolled it out minimally and with stricter guidelines and gave in little by little….some of these retirements (Jay Wright) wouldn’t have happened. Instead, we went full Wild West, single year contracts, mass freeagency that no professional sport even deals with….and are waiting in government bodies to make bumper rails and reel it in a little…in the meantime we get 5-10 years of chaos
 
I’d imagine that if the ncaa would have been smarter about how they caved into the “pay for play” and rolled it out minimally and with stricter guidelines and gave in little by little….some of these retirements (Jay Wright) wouldn’t have happened. Instead, we went full Wild West, single year contracts, mass freeagency that no professional sport even deals with….and are waiting in government bodies to make bumper rails and reel it in a little…in the meantime we get 5-10 years of chaos
Good. I like that it’s scaring a lot of the elite coaches away. I hope they all get replaced by JV High school coaches.
 
I'm not wild about the millions being promised to them, but to act like a kid shouldn't have been able to make money of gear with his name on it or able to charge for signatures is not kosher.
I'm totally fine with them making money off their name image and likeness for commercials, auto graphs and such. But out right pay for play is bonkers and it's not college sports anymore.
 
Hypocrites, the lot of them. THey were fine when there were all out bidding wars for coaches and when coaches played musical chairs to get more money or a better opportunity. I don't see any coach bashing a guy like Cal who is constantly trying to get more money by acting like he's in play for other jobs. But now, gosh almighty, the kids are able to do the same thing and they don't like it.
 
I don't blame them one damn bit. It's adapt or die in high stakes athletics and I know personally I'd never want to have to re recruit my own players, get in bidding wars with other schools, still have to stalk 16-18 year olds to come to your school and start over at least partially every year. Seems like a lot of stress. Look I know coaches use to make the money and could leave anytime but the way we're doing NIL and the transfer portal is like the Wild West and it's not sustainable.
 
I'm a damn Yankee transplant to Lexington and i've been here 20 years but sweet tea is one thing I can't get on with y'all. I'm like the princess and the pea, one grain of sugar in my tea and I wanna spit that shit out!
I'm an Appalachian living on the Keweenaw Peninsula, and sweet tea is as scarce as Martha White with Hotrize here. I can live without it, but man it's good with BBQ
 
Clearly, the ones leaving used the game to stack as much money as possible, and now they have more than they can ever spend. That's why they are leaving, they don't need a paycheck anymore.

Show me a poor coach voluntarily leaving the game
 
I'm an Appalachian living on the Keweenaw Peninsula, and sweet tea is as scarce as Martha White with Hotrize here. I can live without it, but man it's good with BBQ
I bet it’s especially good during The 2nd Week Of Deer Camp or in a Rusty Chevrolet. Lol, I hope you know what I’m talking about. One of my good buddies from HS moved to Ashland from the UP & introduced us to Da Yoopers. So, for the last 35 years I’ve just assumed that everyone in the UP & Michigan, from Negaunee to Ishpeming, knows all about them. He led us to believe they were huge up there. But, damn, it was over 30 years ago, so, they MIGHT be even more scarce than sweet tea by now.
 
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Sure, when I do it 🤣
Hahaha, my mom made sun tea in the yard on our 100 acre farm in upstate NY and that's how I like my tea. I remember my best friend's mom asking me if I wanted tea and she made that shit with milk and sugar and I was appalled. Not even remotely tea at that point. The number of times I try and order unsweet tea in Lex and get sweet tea is TOO DAMN HIGH!
 
It's already been a learning curve for me. The "elite coaches" are on their way out.

Now we got new blood with $$$ backing them... very curious how the next 10 years unfolds.
 
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I imagine putting a team together on free agency every year gets exhausting let alone trying to build team chemistry. I miss the old days.
 
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Hypocrites, the lot of them. THey were fine when there were all out bidding wars for coaches and when coaches played musical chairs to get more money or a better opportunity. I don't see any coach bashing a guy like Cal who is constantly trying to get more money by acting like he's in play for other jobs. But now, gosh almighty, the kids are able to do the same thing and they don't like it.
If the “kids” are playing for money and not a college degree then they’re professionals, not collegiate athletes. A few coaches getting more pay for changing universities is a lot different than 300-400 kids going into free agency every year and going to the highest bidder.
If a kid wants a free college degree then play for that college. If a kid wants millions, then bypass college and go to the NBA and quit using the colleges as the NBA G-league. Colleges and boosters should not be paying these kids to play college ball, but it has developed into this mess because the NCAA and the courts have dropped the ball.
 
For some of these coaches, it's not about the need "take the load off them". It's not about pressure. It's the principal (and wrong) of paying collegiate athletes to play a sport.
most coaches think they should, even the guys that have been around. Too much money flowing around off their backs because of tv deals. For too long schools could move kids off a scholarship but a kid couldn't transfer without sitting out. But the system is so chaotic and undependable in trying to build annual teams now many don't want to deal with it or it doesn't fit with their style of coaching that is built around multi-year player development. unfortunately the NCAA and mark emmert completely dug in on the lawsuit instead of attempting to come up with a workable solution that was manageable. Now we have a system determined by multiple fragmented court cases and a still lagging and inept NCAA.
 
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I'm not wild about the millions being promised to them, but to act like a kid shouldn't have been able to make money of gear with his name on it or able to charge for signatures is not kosher.
I wonder how long it will be, before a player can transfer mid season to a better team? And if so, will there be time limit, like a trade deadline?
 
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Oh my gosh, a 60 year old is thinking of retiring in a couple of years. Who has ever heard of such a bizarre event? Wow, truly a sign of the times, and not just how things have always been. 🙄

How will college basketball survive?
 
Honestly thought Izzo would’ve hung it up after the EE loss to Auburn.

I thought if Sampson won this year at Houston, he would have retired.
They both still might retire before it's all said and done. Tony Bennett stepped out in the fall (October 18th). Calhoun as well (September 12th).

We're only in mid-April. Jay Wright stepped down on April 22nd.
 
It's a young man's game now, so says Todd Golden.

I would retire too if I made the kind of money these people have made in the last six or seven years. Why deal with the stress of this NIL churn when you can just relax and live good? If things get sorted they can still make a "come back" later.
 
I’d imagine that if the ncaa would have been smarter about how they caved into the “pay for play” and rolled it out minimally and with stricter guidelines and gave in little by little….some of these retirements (Jay Wright) wouldn’t have happened. Instead, we went full Wild West, single year contracts, mass freeagency that no professional sport even deals with….and are waiting in government bodies to make bumper rails and reel it in a little…in the meantime we get 5-10 years of chaos
From a legal standpoint it seems that once they opened the door a Crack they let in a flood. I was told by a lawyer friend of mine that once you start letting a person be paid for thier services it is illegal to " artificially" restrict thier earnings capacities. The NCAA learned you can't get little bit pregnant. Lacking any anti trust exemption it's impossible for them to stop what's happening because they will get clobbered in court. That's why Pope was in Washington the other day only congress in conjuction with the courts can put the breaks on what's happening.
 
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If the “kids” are playing for money and not a college degree then they’re professionals, not collegiate athletes. A few coaches getting more pay for changing universities is a lot different than 300-400 kids going into free agency every year and going to the highest bidder.
If a kid wants a free college degree then play for that college. If a kid wants millions, then bypass college and go to the NBA and quit using the colleges as the NBA G-league. Colleges and boosters should not be paying these kids to play college ball, but it has developed into this mess because the NCAA and the courts have dropped the ball.

Whispers: Colleges and boosters have been paying kids to play college football and men’s college basketball my whole life and I am 44.

It takes a lot of naivety to believe that true amateurism in the big business that is NCAA athletics went away only in the last 3 years.

It’s just legal now and the schools no longer have absolute power over the athletes.
 
Whispers: Colleges and boosters have been paying kids to play college football and men’s college basketball my whole life and I am 44.

It takes a lot of naivety to believe that true amateurism in the big business that is NCAA athletics went away only in the last 3 years.

It’s just legal now and the schools no longer have absolute power over the athletes.
There is some truth in what you say but NOBODY was getting the kind of money being tossed around right now, not even close
 
I think it’s a combo of two things.

First, guys like McDermott who’ve been around have made good money. Even smaller g5 program guys.

He’s 60 years old. Though the money hasn’t always been what it is now, he’s been banking probably about 1 mil a year since he took over Creighton. He’s probably got a decent retirement arrangement with them as well. Even before Creighton, early 2000s Northern Iowa or wherever he was most likely very close to 6 figures a year plus bonuses.

Secondly and most obvious, coaches aren’t really general managers, financial nerds, most aren’t really salesmen/recruiters.

I know they make great money, but just think about all that logistically and scheduling wise.

Not everyone gets to fly private or charter all over the country to recruit. Then you have to be part lawyer, financial wiz and put together a payment plan. Then part GM to manage roster.

Then before the season is over you have to start it all again because of all the turnover that is allowed.
 
There is some truth in what you say but NOBODY was getting the kind of money being tossed around right now, not even close

That’s usually what happens with black market vs open market.

It’s 7 figures now. It was high 5 figures to mid 6 figures back in the day. There’s also the issue of nobody really knows what was paid under the table because paper trails were deliberately hard to uncover.
 
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