2016 NBA Draft Big Board: Ben Simmons at top, Skal Labissiere No. 6
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How would you feel if your NBA team drafted Skal anywhere in the first round ? Let alone the lottery .
I keep having to remind myself I have the potential to lose 40 pounds and run the Boston Marathon also.
I wouldn't like it one bit. Waste of a pick if you ask me based on his merits as of late.
The lottery this year may as well be called the Simmons Sweepstakes because after that nobody gives a crap where they end up.
If Skal is #6 then it must be the weakest draft there has ever been. I hope the best for Skal but he is not NBA ready.
I think he's still so high because they know he has a lot of time to redeem himself. If that doesn't happen by the end of the season, I can't see him being drafted in the first round, but the NBA GM's are fools with money, so nothing would surprise me about that organization.
Skal is a good guy with potential and I hate to say this but if I was a fan of an NBA team and they drafted Skal then I would be pretty upset.
Shawn T. T-25 Will get the 40lb of you if you eat right. The Boston Marathon is all on you.
I lost 45 lbs (215-170) from Oct 11th to Nov 11th this year.. Going back to April I was 248.. The 248-215 was planned weight loss.. But I smoke J's now and the only place I'll run to is the kitchen to get grub..
So far the only potential Skal has shown is the ability to score over 6'6 and 6'7 centers. Those do not exist in the NBA. At some point he is going to have to show some ability to perform against players his own height and taller. So far he cannot do that in college against players that will not even sniff the NBA. Being 6'11 does not in of itself guarantee you to be drafted at all much less the lottery. There are numerous guys in Division one that are 6'10 and 6'11.
That really is a terrible draft. No one outside of Simmons really excites one on paper. I'm sure the NBA would love the Lakers to win the lotto and get him.
skal at 6 is a steal. folks here just dont understand basketball or basketball development. kid has a unique skill set to go along with rare physical gifts. if i'm a GM i'm confident i can develop the 19 year old like that. i have a long term vision where as ignorant and selfish fans only see 2 inches in front of their face. but thats why i'm a GM and they watch basketball on tv.
After getting down to 170 in the months stay at the hospital,, I've gotta gain weight back,, and J's will help,, lol.. Plus it helps my glaucoma and stuff..
Skal will be in his 20's by the time he steps on a D-league court. He's never shown the ability to do 2/3 of what poster here claim. They wrap it in a "skill" package and they can't explain anything about it, other than he scored on sisters of the poor.
I hope you're right, but there's no way he's shown anything at all to warrant such a high pick. I understand how the draft works. I just can't imagine him trying to make it to the league through the D league. I would prefer to be wrong, but I think Skal could easily end up unheard of. Way way better players never made it.
Also consider, I'm not sure Cal has ever put lotto top recruit on the bench. This is not a normal situation. Hell, Cal will bench a hard working senior to play that stud freshman and let him learn through mistakes at the same time. He's not going to do that will Skal, he can't.
Some people are fooling themselves on this one.
Some people are fooling themselves on this one.
As a Laker fan, I'm actually hoping we play well enough to send our pick to Philly.
I really don't like this draft. I would rather see us suffer through one more bad season with the young guys playing major minutes next year.
Develop our youth, get a decent pick in 2017, and hopefully clean up in free agency that summer.
If we could get the first pick though...
Well when that happened it wasn't THAT big of a surprise. Nobody knew big Sam would continue to get injured and nobody knew Jordan would become Michael Jordan . And maybe he wouldn't have cause he wouldn't have had Phil Jackson or Scottie Pippin ( and he won nothing until he had both of them ) . The trailblazers had just drafted Clyde Drexler the year before and at the time they felt he was better than Jordan and they needed a big man .
We understand fine. Yes he has a rare and unique skill set but it won't do a damn bit of good if he can't use those skills. I wouldn't take Skal before pick 15 as of now.
He could be the most offensively gifted big man in the history In basketball history but he's so soft and weak that those skills are useless unless he's one on one with a 6'8/200 players.
If it wasn't for his hype and he was just some unknown like Wynyard, scouts and mock drafts wouldn't have Skal in the first or likely even the second round. Based solely off how he plays, he's not good enough to be drafted at all this year.
Potential can get a scout and GM a raise and promotion but it's more likely to get them fired. If you're drafting in the lotto off potential then he has to have at least had some decent production as well. Outside the first 3 games Skal has basically just been out there taking up space. 99% of players his size would out rebound him without trying just by having the ball bounce off the rim to them but hell he doesn't even get those rebounds. If there is a player on the other team or even our team within 5 feet of Skal during a rebound opportunity then you can bet your life the other player ends up with the ball.
He's got very weak hands and is weak all around. A defender could fart his direction while Skal is shooting and it would be enough to knock Skal off balance and miss the shot.
Write it down, if a team picks him in the top 10 of this years draft then that teams GM will be fired within 1-2 years.
I know he has potential. He may be an NBA all star some day. But we're in limbo with him because he hasn't shown anything whatsoever to merit many minutes in college much less the NBA. I wish him the best but if he's a one and done I assume he'll be drafted 100% off of 'potential'. It'll be interesting to see how this goes.
Please enlighten me on what his unique skill set and special gifts are...I've coached the damn game but many years ago and I don't see one special skill set he has at all unless you are talking about his ability to score over players 6'7 and smaller.
I agree with this, except for the fools with money part. But, the overall concept is spot on. They will leave him there until later in the season. If he hasn't proved anything by then, he will slip.
8th grade basketball during the 50s doesnt count. sorry. you dont see anything special because you biased. all you and people like you care about is uk...not basketball. just cracks me up how many NBA experts there are here yet the overwhelming theme is that no one watches or cares about the NBA.
many people that make basketball their profession for a living have a completely different opinion of skal than the folks in this thread. skal is going top 10, going to make millions of dollars and be a quality pro a few years down the road. all that is going to happen regardless whether he is successful at uk or not.
i wish uk fans would stop talking about any related to the NBA...they are almost always wrong.
Like that scout that completely roasted Skal after the Louisville game? People like that?
Look, I want Skal to be all he's hyped to be. We need him to be. I want him to be for his sake. He came from a tough background and I want to see him succeed and make millions. But damn it gets old seeing you tell everyone here how stupid they are. I'll give you the fact that there are a lot of bozos here. That fact is conceded. But anyone critical of Skal right now doesn't deserve that treatment. He's been flat out awful and barely displayed any of this potential everyone keeps talking about. Particularly against any decent level of competition. Get off your condescending high horse.
you didnt pay much attention did you. as other around the NBA have said...real scouts dont give out info to the media.
you and people like yourself are just clueless because you think him being awful now actually matters. again...fans cant look past the obvious. no vision. you think the nba GM cares how kentucky does? all the fans that have their chest puffed out now after the ul win...will be right back to basking everything and everyone after we lose to ole miss or lsu. GMs dont care. NBA game is different and way better.
skal is going top 10 unless red flagged during evaluations/physicals.
Maybe he will. But you're an asshole.
FWIW, I'm a huge NBA fan. Annual subscriber of the Leage Pass. I watch a TON of NBA basketball. So you feel free to paint me with that brush if you'd like. It's what you do. But you're wrong.
Look pal, you don know me at all. We've hardly had any interaction here whatsoever. Certainly not enough for you to tell me I'm dumb. I've seen more than enough of your posts to know you're a condescending jackass.
You think Skal being awful right now doesn't matter? Really? I get the whole potential thing. Trust me, I get it. But you gotta show something. Playing awful basketball damn sure means something. Believe that.
Jordan was amazing well before Jackson and Pippen. He was averaging 37 points a game pretty early on in his career. Team success point is fair, but he was a stud individual from the start.
He's going to have to improve his rebounding though. He can. He has time. But I can't recall a 7 footer who was less aggressive going after the ball.
I was trying to think of someone recent and the name that popped to mind was Isaiah Austin.
I remember him floating around the perimeter, like he didn't want to get his hands dirty. Turns out he had Marfan's Syndrome. And he still rebounded better than Skal.
Not trying to bury the kid. I like him. I want him to do great things, whether now or in the future. But if he goes all season only pulling down 7 rebounds per 40, he's sliding down my draft board.
I agree that he has some special skills for someone his size. He has a chance to be one of the most offensively talented bigs on the planet. I agree that some GM is going to watch his workout and take a shot on him, even if he struggles all season. Will that be at 8 or 18? Don't know.
Hopefully he finishes strong, becomes a top 3 pick, and this conversation is moot.
