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2015 RB Signee Sihiem King

Soso sounds just------well, just so so. But JoJo has already provided a whole lot of excitement.
 
Originally posted by ARC Dog:
Lol Grumpy you've never seen Colquitt play I suppose.
Saw them play Archer, watched so much football that day everyone ran together. But thinking back, almost everyone there was running a spread. Hell man, I am old and forget, I just remember CC won and King getting loose for some nice runs, but I thought he had a fullback with him. Was wrong again, what can I say? I think KIng will be successful at the college level.
 
What a impressive video, 4.38 speed and a tackle breaker. If you had been one of the14 to 15,000 people that live in Moultrie, Ga. there's a good chance you been among the 10,000 fans on Friday night that saw Sihiem play. Absolutely a top Georgia high school program and in my opinion if young Sihiem was 6' and wanted he would have signed by UGA. IMO a steal for us and our staff!
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
 
Originally posted by Blue Decade:
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
So, again, I have to ask... what separates the two? Why was Boom Williams a 4 star running back rated the number 4 overall APB and 118th overall recruit in the nation, as well as a top 10 player in Georgia while King is a 3 star unranked player at his position, in the nation, and in the state of Georgia?

You seemingly cannot argue a lack of exposure considering that he wasn't just playing on some tiny team hidden out in the boondocks of Georgia. No, he was playing for a big time school that one a title in the biggest classification in Georgia. So, he seemingly had plenty of exposure. Enough to be a USA Today AA.

So, what are your thoughts on why he is unranked if it isn't his size? (By the way, I am not trying to talk down or badly about the kid. I am just curious.)
 
Originally posted by Comebakatz3:
Originally posted by Blue Decade:
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
So, again, I have to ask... what separates the two? Why was Boom Williams a 4 star running back rated the number 4 overall APB and 118th overall recruit in the nation, as well as a top 10 player in Georgia while King is a 3 star unranked player at his position, in the nation, and in the state of Georgia?

You seemingly cannot argue a lack of exposure considering that he wasn't just playing on some tiny team hidden out in the boondocks of Georgia. No, he was playing for a big time school that one a title in the biggest classification in Georgia. So, he seemingly had plenty of exposure. Enough to be a USA Today AA.

So, what are your thoughts on why he is unranked if it isn't his size? (By the way, I am not trying to talk down or badly about the kid. I am just curious.)
Why don't you email some of these services and find out why he isn't ranked higher and give examples of guys his same size ranked considerably higher.
 
Originally posted by Blue Decade:
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
I know that Rivals listed Boom as a 5'8 RB, but I'm not entirely sure where they got that, or his speed, even weight for that matter.
According to the Hudl profiles of both players:

Boom Williams: 5'10, 190#, 4.28 forty, 340# bench, 450# squat, 10.6 hundred-meter.

Sihiem King: 5'8, 172#, 4.38 forty, 260# bench, 485# squat, 10.8 hundred-meter.

Structually, there are minor differences, but King will likely gain more weight before getting on campus, and 180# (Which is what I estimate he will be around), is more than sufficient for a scat back. King is a scat back. King would have always been a scat back. King will never, and would never be expected to gain 40 pounds to become a power back. He was recruited as a scat back.
Williams is a much more balanced back than King. Incredibly fast, but surprisingly strong as well. From what I watch though from the videos, King seems to use his agility much more than Williams uses his. Both are incredible athletes, but their running styles are different if you really watch.
Boom lowers his shoulder a lot more on defenders when he needs to.
 
Originally posted by *Bleedingblue*:

Originally posted by Comebakatz3:

Originally posted by Blue Decade:

Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
So, again, I have to ask... what separates the two? Why was Boom Williams a 4 star running back rated the number 4 overall APB and 118th overall recruit in the nation, as well as a top 10 player in Georgia while King is a 3 star unranked player at his position, in the nation, and in the state of Georgia?

You seemingly cannot argue a lack of exposure considering that he wasn't just playing on some tiny team hidden out in the boondocks of Georgia. No, he was playing for a big time school that one a title in the biggest classification in Georgia. So, he seemingly had plenty of exposure. Enough to be a USA Today AA.

So, what are your thoughts on why he is unranked if it isn't his size? (By the way, I am not trying to talk down or badly about the kid. I am just curious.)
Why don't you email some of these services and find out why he isn't ranked higher and give examples of guys his same size ranked considerably higher.
I do not think the problem is heart because IMO the kid showed a lot of it in the Championship game that I just watched. He got blasted several times and got up and played the next play. I also would not class the kid as small. He was just short but he had a muscular body. He wasn't one of those skinny weak looking types. IMO he will be 185 to 190 by this fall. IMO it is very possible that this is a kid that the star rankers miss on.
 
Originally posted by Comebakatz3:
Originally posted by Blue Decade:
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
So, again, I have to ask... what separates the two? Why was Boom Williams a 4 star running back rated the number 4 overall APB and 118th overall recruit in the nation, as well as a top 10 player in Georgia while King is a 3 star unranked player at his position, in the nation, and in the state of Georgia?

You seemingly cannot argue a lack of exposure considering that he wasn't just playing on some tiny team hidden out in the boondocks of Georgia. No, he was playing for a big time school that one a title in the biggest classification in Georgia. So, he seemingly had plenty of exposure. Enough to be a USA Today AA.

So, what are your thoughts on why he is unranked if it isn't his size? (By the way, I am not trying to talk down or badly about the kid. I am just curious.)
Services put a huge premium on attending camps (specifically, their camps). Maybe King didn't hit the camp circuit hard. Same thing happened to Matt Elam. Recruited by the best of the best with .01% size and athleticism and he was a middle of the road 3* on Rivals mostly because he never went to a Rivals camp
 
Originally posted by Comebakatz3:
Originally posted by Blue Decade:
Originally posted by Rhavicc:
I know there are some here who have a knock on this kid, saying he's too small to compete in the SEC.
Rivals lists King as 5-8, 175. When Boom Williams committed to us in June, 2013, Rivals listed him at 5-8, 180. King is listed as a 4.4 40 guy. Williams 4.39. End of story. Nothing to really discuss there unless someone thinks Boom isn't a legitimate SEC running back.
So, again, I have to ask... what separates the two? Why was Boom Williams a 4 star running back rated the number 4 overall APB and 118th overall recruit in the nation, as well as a top 10 player in Georgia while King is a 3 star unranked player at his position, in the nation, and in the state of Georgia?

You seemingly cannot argue a lack of exposure considering that he wasn't just playing on some tiny team hidden out in the boondocks of Georgia. No, he was playing for a big time school that one a title in the biggest classification in Georgia. So, he seemingly had plenty of exposure. Enough to be a USA Today AA.

So, what are your thoughts on why he is unranked if it isn't his size? (By the way, I am not trying to talk down or badly about the kid. I am just curious.)
Colquit County is one of those football magnet schools outside of metro Atlanta. I am not sure King was a transfer into the school but I think he was. If he was he could have played at one of those small schools out in the middle of nowhere and got no attention until he transferred to CC. Another reason is everyone of these recruiting services have camps that are used for giving stars. They naturally rank the kids who attend them higher than those who don't, again I don't know for a fact if he did or didn't attend those camps, but if he didn't it negatively affected his ranking. I know Boom attended them in Athens, and as gung ho as his dad was I would think there was a good chance he attended more than one. Another thing used in Georgia is an all star game called Rising Stars or Rising Juniors, something like that where Jrs are invited to play and showcase their skills. There were several backs in metro Atlanta who probably got those invites over him and thats another reason. Good player and he will be a nice fit in UK's offense, I don't think he is near as thick as Boom, right now, but I think he was better than Boom in HS. He played much tougher competition. Like someone said those Stadiums alone I-75 in south Ga look like small college stadiums, in fact Valdosta State use to and may still play their home games in one.
 
Be all of that as it may, King is joining a backfield that already has Boom, Horton, and Kemp. In 2014, Kemp didn't play much and there were lots of rumors around here that Neal was down on Jo Jo's lackadaisical practice habits. But new coordinators are open minded with the players at the beginning, so Kemp will get another chance and a new life because Neal is gone and Dawson is here. If they are healthy, the bulk of the playing time will go to Boom and Horton. So King will have time to learn the offense and catch up to the speed of the SEC game. Having these other running backs here means King will break in as a role player. That's perfect for him., as long as Boom stays healthy. But Boom has a concussion history. If Boom gets hurt, then King would get thrown into the fire right away and that might not be ideal. King will need to add some bulk before he is ready for extensive snaps. If he can do that this spring before arriving in Lexington, that would be fantastic.
 
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