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Of course I have stats.
Look how awesome he is. Here is a Stat line from one of his NCAAT games:
12 min, 1 point, 0 steals, 0 assists, 0 rebounds, 1 foul.
Here's an ACCT Stat line:
11 min, 0 points, 0 steals, 0 assists, 1 rebound, 4 fouls, 2 turnovers.
Read that again.
Show me one source where allen is projected to be a 1st round pick in the next 3 years.
Everyone laugh at the ignorant troll!
I was talking about stats for Sparty's defense, Grayson didn't get much playing time because Coach K loves his 6-7 man rotations.
And people were seriously talking about Grayson being a late 1st/early 2nd round pick this year just based off of 2 games. Stupid, but the talent is clear.
And people were seriously talking about Grayson being a late 1st/early 2nd round pick this year just based off of 2 games. Stupid, but the talent is clear.
Are you this dense? He had about a dozen games where he got double digit minutes but didn't do jack in the game. Duke had like, what? 8 scholarship players? That proves that talking about Allen contributing next year is as ridiculous as me saying Derek Willis will be an all american.
Dude was trash and had 3 good games all year. Take out those games and he averaged 2 points on 35% shooting. He. Is. Awful.
Good luck next year, if you're relying on him...
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If we stop will you go the h€!! away? You are beginning to wear your welcome out, dookie troll.
RSCI has Jamal Murray at #71. LOL. 21 spots lower than Charles Matthews. Can we really take that seriously?
I'm going to make fun of you when he's a 1st or 2nd team All ACC performer. In an actual basketball conference.
Neue Regel, It's been a long time. I hope you're having a good summer. I know how much you enjoyed K's fifth NCAA title.
Most of the new posters have no clue and I've been to enough games with both UK and dUKe fans to know that history - even for one's own program - is becoming lost in today's now culture. But to call dUKe a power prior to K's arrival continues to prove someone's point over the past several years of how some johnny-come-lately fans know little about their own program. I know you're not calling them a power, but aside from two decades in which they really didn't do much outside of four seasons - the seven decades or so before K aren't considered powerful by any use of the term.
In 1978 when they ran into the winningest program in college basketball history, that was the only year where they won a single game in the NCAA tournament for that entire decade.After reaching the championship game in '78, they lost in the first round. The 4 wins dUKe had in the 70s NCAA tournament are three less than ANY UK decade. One FF that decade didn't lift them to a power. dUKe only finished in the AP top 10 once in teh 70s 70% of that time they didn't even make the top 20. Not a powerful performance in the 70s for sure. How 'bout the 60's?
It’s generally concluded that prior to Coach K’s run that the 60s were dUKe’s best decade ever. Yes they made three final fours in that decade, but they didn’t appear in the postseason four years. That includes the NIT.
To take a look at the 30s, 40s and 50s for dUKe is pretty sad. It didn't win its first game in the NCAA tournament until the tourney itself was in its fourth decade. There is no question that dUKe under Coach K has been the best program in the country. You've seen me say that more than once. DUKe’s run under Coach K has been marvelous. The number of games played has seen a dramatic improvement in their record book. Yet their best didn’t really happen UNTIL Coach K.
Certainly they weren't a power that some claim - even after looking at the facts.
This isn't directed at you Neue Regal as much as some of those I've mentioned before who think that Cameron has been sold out for decades, or that the ACC invented the post-season conference tournament...and there are more than a couple who probably don't even know how Gene Banks got his nickname...or that Coach Rupp was courted by dUKe after the University of Kentucky forced him to retire.
Have a great night.
GO BIG BLUE!
Most of the new posters have no clue and I've been to enough games with both UK and dUKe fans to know that history - even for one's own program - is becoming lost in today's now culture. But to call dUKe a power prior to K's arrival continues to prove someone's point over the past several years of how some johnny-come-lately fans know little about their own program. I know you're not calling them a power, but aside from two decades in which they really didn't do much outside of four seasons - the seven decades or so before K aren't considered powerful by any use of the term.
In 1978 when they ran into the winningest program in college basketball history, that was the only year where they won a single game in the NCAA tournament for that entire decade.After reaching the championship game in '78, they lost in the first round. The 4 wins dUKe had in the 70s NCAA tournament are three less than ANY UK decade. One FF that decade didn't lift them to a power. dUKe only finished in the AP top 10 once in teh 70s 70% of that time they didn't even make the top 20. Not a powerful performance in the 70s for sure. How 'bout the 60's?
It’s generally concluded that prior to Coach K’s run that the 60s were dUKe’s best decade ever. Yes they made three final fours in that decade, but they didn’t appear in the postseason four years. That includes the NIT.
To take a look at the 30s, 40s and 50s for dUKe is pretty sad. It didn't win its first game in the NCAA tournament until the tourney itself was in its fourth decade. There is no question that dUKe under Coach K has been the best program in the country. You've seen me say that more than once. DUKe’s run under Coach K has been marvelous. The number of games played has seen a dramatic improvement in their record book. Yet their best didn’t really happen UNTIL Coach K.
Certainly they weren't a power that some claim - even after looking at the facts.
This isn't directed at you Neue Regal as much as some of those I've mentioned before who think that Cameron has been sold out for decades, or that the ACC invented the post-season conference tournament...and there are more than a couple who probably don't even know how Gene Banks got his nickname...or that Coach Rupp was courted by dUKe after the University of Kentucky forced him to retire.
Have a great night.
GO BIG BLUE!
So you're basically saying that 5 games against atrocious defensive teams are a better indication of his production than the 30 other games he sucked in?
Let's look at his double digit games:
16 points against #54 wisconsin.
11 points against #87 NCSU.
27 points against #137 wake forest.
10 points against #43 clemson.
18 points against #333 Presbyterian.
So basically, if he plays a bunch of defenses rated below 50, he'll be an all america...
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Just watch the tape, super talented. It's called extrapolation bro.
There is a bit of faith needed. Just trust in Grayson.
There is a bit of faith needed. Just trust in Grayson.
Bogans, thanks for the comment. Yes summer has been pretty good. I would add regarding Vic Bubas's exceptional decade at Duke in the 1960's. Only the winner of the league tournament could play in the NCAA'S. So it wasn't as easy to dance, especially in a tough ACC. But he did well and put Duke on the map in a national sense. And the 70's was Duke's worst decade in it's history. We've never denied that. Luckily Bill Foster helped it somewhat at the tail end.
Duke won quite a bit pre Bubas but didn't get invites to 8 team NCAA fields. Bogans Duke had a 22-2 team for example in 1942, why no invite?
Duke won quite a bit pre Bubas but didn't get invites to 8 team NCAA fields. Bogans Duke had a 22-2 team for example in 1942, why no invite?
He was a hero in that Wisconsin game, but let's be honest, how much do you really think Bo Ryan and the Badgers watched game tape of him? He tore Wisconsin up for about 15 minutes, partly because he got "fouled" every time down the court and part because Wisconsin thought Bieber just stormed the court.
They obviously didn't watch tape of him, because if they had they would have anticipated the quick first step.
Watch it.
Seriously, watch it.
Heh, I guess we will wait and see. One thing is for sure, he's going draw a lot of fouls.
Oh well, Coach K just doesn't have enough time and clout to slither his way to 8 titles. He'll be dead before he even sees it. Puts a smile on my face.
Oh well, Coach K just doesn't have enough time and clout to slither his way to 8 titles. He'll be dead before he even sees it. Puts a smile on my face.
Because they were no power then and didn't get the calls with K on the sidelines... 
... perhaps...? UK has had more than a couple of those decisions by the National Crooked Athletic Association itself...Good to see you, NRegal.
... perhaps...? UK has had more than a couple of those decisions by the National Crooked Athletic Association itself...Good to see you, NRegal.Definitely, and luckily he's an excellent foul shooter.
Dude is gonna live till he's 105, and will coach until he's 104 (not really, but he's a vampire). I have a theory (not even my theory) that the only thing that keeps older men alive is their work. Look at Joe Paterno, he gets forced out (needed to be) and he died soon after.
Dude is gonna live till he's 105, and will coach until he's 104 (not really, but he's a vampire). I have a theory (not even my theory) that the only thing that keeps older men alive is their work. Look at Joe Paterno, he gets forced out (needed to be) and he died soon after.
Did you honestly just talk about Wisconsin anticipating a quick first step. Now it's blatantly obvious that you don't even watch basketball.
Wisconsin could be given a 30 second tipoff of their opponents first step and couldn't defend it. Unfortunately, we crapped down our leg with 3 straight shot clock violations and then got a completely obvious shot clock violation missed against us. Running our first half offense in the last 4 minutes with competent refs we beat the badgers by 12 and get a cakewalk title game for 40-0.
I also love speculative fiction.
Maybe Calipari shouldn't have gone to stall ball like Krzyzewski would have done.
