“I Came Here For Coach Coen” - BV

[Random UK Fan]

Brock Vandagriff is also waiting for Liam Coen's final decision

Brock Vandagriff is also playing the waiting game regarding Liam Coen and the Chicago Bears. We are in a holding pattern.

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[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

Wouldn't be surprised if he got the job but don't think he will. It's always a positive to take interviews in any industry if offered whether you intend to move on or not.

 

[Rockfly78]

I kinda feel like brock comes regardless. He wants the opportunity and he will get that here whoever the OC is. I'm starting to get the feeling that coen returns as well. just my gut feeling.

 

[The-Hack]

He wants the opportunity and he will get that here whoever the OC is.

Time for Barnhart and Stoops to earn that money: with our resources, we should be able to make a splash hire within 48 hours should Coen leave.

And the new man’s first job(s) will be talking to Brock Vandergriff, Cutter Boley and Stone Saunders.

I hope it doesn’t come to all that.

 

[K_TIME]

If Coen were coaching at WVU...I doubt Vandergriff would be going to WVU.

1. Coen for sure is part of why a highly thought of QB wants to come to UK
2. But a SEC starting QB job (and not just piddly Vandy job) is also a good part of the why Brock, or any QB, is at UK. Brock wants to get on the field to get some tape out there for NFL aspiriations.
3. Then there is NIL $$$.....he won't get that kind of jingle at a lesser school but a SEC school like UK can pony up some cash.

So while I get his comments...and we can debate the percentages of the 3 reasons I state above. BUt it is certainly not 100% Coen for why he is at UK.

 

[mrschwump]

If Coen were coaching at WVU...I doubt Vandergriff would be going to WVU.

1. Coen for sure is part of why a highly thought of QB wants to come to UK
2. But a SEC starting QB job (and not just piddly Vandy job) is also a good part of the why Brock, or any QB, is at UK. Brock wants to get on the field to get some tape out there for NFL aspiriations.
3. Then there is NIL $$$.....he won't get that kind of jingle at a lesser school but a SEC school like UK can pony up some cash.

So while I get his comments...and we can debate the percentages of the 3 reasons I state above. BUt it is certainly not 100% Coen for why he is at UK.

BV didn't say Coen was "100%" why he came to UK, he said Coen was the reason he came to UK. If you're not going to believe what a guy says there's no reason to read the write-up.

 

[Kattopper]

Im glad he likes Coen and Im glad he picked UK.

I am just not sure I understand how Coen is so valued. What justifies it both in the NFL and CFB? We have certainly had worse OCs. Other than continuity and keeping recruits at this point I am not sure of his high end value.
Clearly he isnt long term and he maybe thinking Im out of here bc Stoops tried to leave.
Stoops has a reputation of a revolving door from an OC standpoint and the perception at least with our fanbase that he hamstrings the offense. Doesn’t instill a lot of confidence at this point of him hiring anything better than Coen. Sucks every year we are in scramble mode offensively.

 

[Maximus52]

 

[JHB4UK]

Coen has to look Vandagriff in the eye every time he come in the football offices, not us. Coen is the one who has to look Stone Saunders and more importantly his dad in the eye this weekend, not us.

this getting out there and then having to answer for it to young men face to face when asked was a choice.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Coen has to look Vandagriff in the eye every time he come in the football offices, not us. Coen is the one who has to look Stone Saunders and more importantly his dad in the eye this weekend, not us.

this getting out there and then having to answer for it to young men face to face when asked was a choice.

Yeah. I believe BV came, in large part to work with Coen. He has every right to feel disappointed. Coen is screwing Stoops with his constant flirtations. I was happy Coen came back, but I wish now he had not. I don’t think our offense looked consistently better this year than it did last and I think Coen’s indecisiveness (I want to believe him when he said he wanted to teach young people, missed the college game, and did not want to raise his child in a big city, so I won’t say he lied to us) is going to set us back, rather than be a non-factor.

 

[UKPRO]

If coen is smart he will stay for one or two more years. Prove his value as an offensive coordinator. He hasn’t shown much to this point. If he takes a job and slightly fails, his career in the pros or division one would be damaged.

 

[K_TIME]

If coen is smart he will stay for one or two more years. Prove his value as an offensive coordinator. He hasn’t shown much to this point. If he takes a job and slightly fails, his career in the pros or division one would be damaged.

Totally agree....if he goes to Bears, draft Caleb Williams and he looks like Bryce Young-ish....then he's goign to be out inside of 1-3 years. He's burned some college bridges and there are only 30 NFL OC jobs and he's back to QB coach.

I don't get why you'd leave the Rams/McVay OC job to hop back in with the Bears as the OC....but it's his life but he could have been with McVay, Stafford, Cupp and the Puka phenom...living in LA. But you want to pick up from college to go to Chicago...their coach has a short leash probably, Fields isn't thriving, DJ Moore...and a division with the Packers/Love iwth young roster, Bears/Goff look young adn good roster as well as Vikings/Cousins/Justin Jefferson. Not sure going to Bears makes a ton of sense if you've got a good job right now to be honest.

 

[gamecockcat]

My question would be is it Coen or is it an NFL scheme that ultimately attracted BV? Yes, Liam is a nice guy and seems to know offensive football and his scheme is one that readily translates to the NFL. But, if LC leaves and we hire an OC whose scheme is Andy Reid's or Shanahan's rather than McVay's, would BV transfer? Is it LC personally or is it the opportunity to play in an NFL scheme (regardless of whose it is) that is more attractive for BV?

 

[Cat06]

People want to write Cohen off, but in my opinion what he did with Baker Mayfield in less than a week in LA last season said all I need to know about both guys. A QB with any sense at all knows he can prepare you for the NFL if you are his guy.

I believe he is hamstrung somewhat by Stoops preferenes, but he is a magnet for top transfer QB's. I hope he continues to grow here.

 

[JHB4UK]

I am just not sure I understand how Coen is so valued. What justifies it both in the NFL and CFB?

On the NFL level anyone off the McVey Shanahan tree is highly valued and wanted.

Coen at UK specifically is valued for what he did with Levis. Turned a guy who was on Penn St bench for 3 yrs into a 1st rounder (anyone deny he would have been if Coen stayed for '22?). It is easy to see this is the exact path Vandagriff wants. Sat the pine 3 yrs, now gets to start 2 yrs in a pro system under a pro coach. He can build his NFL resume for when his CFB career is over after 2025.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

On the NFL level anyone off the McVey Shanahan tree is highly valued and wanted.

Coen at UK specifically is valued for what he did with Levis. Turned a guy who was on Penn St bench for 3 yrs into a 1st rounder (anyone deny he would have been if Coen stayed for '22?). It is easy to see this is the exact path Vandagriff wants. Sat the pine 3 yrs, now gets to start 2 yrs in a pro system under a pro coach. He can build his NFL resume for when his CFB career is over after 2025.

Yep. Plus coen is an incredibly charismatic guy. It's easy to see why players want to play for him.

We would quickly need to make a major hire to have any chance to salvage the upcoming season. Even if we make a really good hire a month from now, we could still be looking at probation level offensive performance once we have all our guys exit.

 

[billoliver40]

Coen was really OC in title only, McVay is the offensive specialist for the Rams. Same deal as someone being OC for Holmgren or maybe DB coach for Stoops.

Then again a poor year at UK and Liam's value definitely takes a hit.

Hope he stays. If not, please don't come back

 

[Eccain01]

If Coen were coaching at WVU...I doubt Vandergriff would be going to WVU.

1. Coen for sure is part of why a highly thought of QB wants to come to UK
2. But a SEC starting QB job (and not just piddly Vandy job) is also a good part of the why Brock, or any QB, is at UK. Brock wants to get on the field to get some tape out there for NFL aspiriations.
3. Then there is NIL $$$.....he won't get that kind of jingle at a lesser school but a SEC school like UK can pony up some cash.

So while I get his comments...and we can debate the percentages of the 3 reasons I state above. BUt it is certainly not 100% Coen for why he is at UK.

the man himself said he came here for coen. Which was pretty clear to begin with. All the points you made are irrelevant if Coen isn’t here.

 

[Bluegrass79]

Coen wasnt great with the Rams last year. He wasnt great this year with Kentucky. He aint getting no damn job elsewhere. Itsa bullshitttttt
We could do better than him imo.
Lucky we even want keep his ass

 

[Deeeefense]

If coen is smart he will stay for one or two more years. Prove his value as an offensive coordinator. He hasn’t shown much to this point. If he takes a job and slightly fails, his career in the pros or division one would be damaged.

I agree he needs to stay some place long enough to demonstrate that he can build and manage something with year over year improvement. Hoping back and forth, not just between teams, but between leagues does not serve him well in the long term.

However I do disagree that he hasn't shown much. This offense is not a finished product but it did show some improvement over last year's disasterous offense.