Perpetually shuffling blackjack

[Glenn's take]

How long has this been around? They certainly figured a way around the card counters. There is no more just playing out the chute anymore. The chute never ends.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Shark week comes early.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Addictive take, Glenn.

 

[J_Dee]

I've taught most of my siblings' kids how to count cards in Blackjack using high-low and my super-religious parents hate it. We're only allowed to play board games at my parents' house now. =)

 

[chroix]

Seems like an easy way for the house to rig a game. No thank you.

 

[The-Hack]

Belterra still has a couple of tables with a six deck shoe.

Help solve the problem, don’t play the auto-shuffle games!!!

 

[The-Hack]

And “the chute” is a blackjack “shoe.”

For better security - black dealing shoe!

For better security - black dealing shoe!

www.americangamingsupply.com

 

[thabigbluenation]

Belterra still has a couple of tables with a six deck shoe.

Help solve the problem, don’t play the auto-shuffle games!!!

I don't gamble often. My step dad loved black jack and craps. He studied the count high low stuff. But I thought most tables had went to the 6 deck thing. Which means you would need a much better brain than mine to count that many and keep up

 

[The-Hack]

Which means you would need a much better brain than mine to count that many and keep up

The math of counting is very easy and can be practiced with a single deck.

The six/eight deck shoes require patience and the ability to concentrate through interruptions.

The highest/lowest number I have ever counted in Black Jack was +42 (eight deck shoe).

 

[CAT Scratch FVR]

Saw a few videos where some counters insist that deck was loaded with extra low cards at certain casinos

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

The casinos hand out those cheat sheets. Duh!

 

[The-Hack]

Saw a few videos where some counters insist that deck was loaded with extra low cards at certain casinos

How could it be prevented with a machine shuffler??

 

[The-Hack]

The casinos hand out those cheat sheets. Duh!

Yeah, but they only get you to within about 1.5 % disadvantage (depending on house rules), and if a good card counter, the “Cheat Sheets,” or “Standard Book of play,” shifts (or becomes irrelevant) with the count.

The “Illustrious 18,” (Google it) shows, for example, if you are at a seriously 10 value loaded remaining shoe (+4 or +5 true count) you split a pair of tens against a dealer 5 or 6. And if you are at a positive 1.5 or greater true count, you take insurance/even money when the dealer has an Ace showing, as the remaining shoe is just “ten rich” enough, that there is greater than a 50 percent chance of a ten beneath the Ace, making the two-to-one-payout worthwhile.

Always be careful of the BS you hear at tables. Most folks can get real close on “what the book says,” but beyond that, there is a lot of legend and bullsh!t.

I split tens one night, winning both hands, and a dude next to me said that you should only split tens against a dealer card of 4. And that is clearly ridicules, as the dealer is more likely to go bust with a 5 or a 6.

I’ve split tens likely 20 times the 15 years I have been counting, and lost both hands only once.

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

Yeah, but they only get you to within about 1.5 % disadvantage (depending on house rules), and if a good card counter, the “Cheat Sheets,” or “Standard Book of play,” shifts (or becomes irrelevant) with the count.

The “Illustrious 18,” (Google it) shows, for example, if you are at a seriously 10 value loaded remaining shoe (+4 or +5 true count) you split a pair of tens against a dealer 5 or 6. And if you are at a positive 1.5 or greater true count, you take insurance/even money when the dealer has an Ace showing, as the remaining shoe is just “ten rich” enough, that there is greater than a 50 percent chance of a ten beneath the Ace, making the two-to-one-payout worthwhile.

Always be careful of the BS you hear at tables. Most folks can get real close on “what the book says,” but beyond that, there is a lot of legend and bullsh!t.

I split tens one night, winning both hands, and a dude next to me said that you should only split tens against a dealer card of 4. And that is clearly ridicules, as the dealer is more likely to go bust with a 5 or a 6.

I’ve split tens likely 20 times the 15 years I have been counting, and lost both hands only once.

I was teasing, but if those shufflers become commonplace, the MIT Blackjack team will have to come up with something new.

 

[The-Hack]

I was teasing, but if those shufflers become commonplace, the MIT Blackjack team will have to come up with something new.

These shufflers have been in-and-out of casinos for the 20ish years I’ve been visiting them. They end up costing the house money, as they break down frequently.