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Originally posted by Irish Beck:
And, let us not forget, the notion that he is a "wacky" Christ follower is something that a lot of his bible belt voting block will not be down with.

Very true. My inlaws feel this way. Great people, devout Christians but they are leery of the LDS factor. Those less likely to vote for Romney (on the right) will be the older, religious demographic, which is also an important voting block for the GOP.

Originally posted by WillGolf4Food:
The wacky Christ factor is really a shame, although admittedly I never got comfortable around the few Mormons I’ve known casually/worked with, don’t know why.
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The more Mormons I meet the less weird they seem. I was only accustomed to the missionaries back in KY.

As Governor, Romney mostly led without his strict religious philosophies. I still am shocked that it took a Mormon to change the wacky blue laws in Mass re: alcohol sales on Sunday. It used to be forbidden except between Thanksgiving and Christmas. His only religion-based decision that I can remember was squeamishly backing the state wide amendment to ban same-sex marriage. He was killed in the polls for it.

I'm interested to see how today's Romney differs from the Romney I knew 8 years ago.
 
I'm not crazy about Romney or Palin at this point. I could envision Romney as president, but he seems wishy-washy. I just don't see Palin as an executive, and she seems too self serving for my taste.

At this point, I like Pawlenty best, but I think another governor or two may join in at some point. See Governors Perry or Christie.
 
Originally posted by Irish Beck:
I think things like this will get overlooked. Romney is in a very special situation (I can't remember if I posted this in here or in the other one) but he could very well win the nomination and the general as a Republican Mormon who is Liberal on most social issues, basically passed a miniature version of Obamacare in MA (although he's being consistent by insisting it should be a state issue) and is extremely moderate. That fact alone speaks volumes about how the public views our economy and the job market. The saying people vote with their wallets has never been more true than it is today.
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Can’t argue the wallet factor.

But, those other issues could be enough to keep the hard right from even casting a vote, it’s quite the paradox for the hard line righties if he gets the nod. Most true conservatives I know won’t vote for him on his abortion stance alone. And you can’t overlook MR was guv for one of the most liberal states in the union, so his greatest political success came by pleasing liberals.
 
Originally posted by Irish Beck:
I'm for alternative fuel sources as much as the next guy but I don't think it's as feasible as you are making it out to be. I live 20 minutes from urban centers, and I say that lightly because they barely qualify based on your metric, and am forced to do so because my wife and I are equidistant from work (in opposite directions). It was the easiest and best choice for us. We could move to either Urban center, but the offset wouldn't outweigh the inconvenience. We, according to most models I have seen, still rank as average middle class Americans and aren't buckling under the pressure of high gas prices, yet.

I think you make a good point, but its the extreme.
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Definitely on the extreme side.......in hopes it becomes less so.

There are different options for different situation. BBinAZ owns his own business that demands a truck as well. If these are ideal jobs for you then you put greater weight on keeping these occupations than having to rely on a car for all of your transportation.

Re: the feasibility of alternative fuel sources, we're moving in that direction. On the whole, they're not as feasible as the status quo YET (due to several factors already addressed - infrastructure, continued subsidization of conventional fuels, scale, technology, etc), but the potential, and economic viability, is absolutely present. Increased awareness and supply (in the sense of the value chain, not inputs) will only help.
 
Originally posted by WillGolf4Food:
Can’t argue the wallet factor.

But, those other issues could be enough to keep the hard right from even casting a vote, it’s quite the paradox for the hard line righties if he gets the nod. Most true conservatives I know won’t vote for him on his abortion stance alone. And you can’t overlook MR was guv for one of the most liberal states in the union, so his greatest political success came by pleasing liberals.
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He may not win the staunch conservative vote but if he can drum up enough "SOCIALISM" fear then they won't have a choice. I'm pretty sure we will have another hold your nose and press the button election come next year. Honestly, if the economy doesn't get better (substantially) or if it gets worse, you might see people flocking to true fiscal conservatives, regardless of party affiliation.
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Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Most Republicans don't want Palin to run for president".

** Story at Noon **
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That's actually refreshing.

However, it has nothing to do with the debilitation of one's argument once a quote from Palin is used as support.

Speaking to that, who actually used a Palin quote in the first place?
 
Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Most Republicans don't want Palin to run for president".

** Story at Noon **
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That's actually refreshing.

However, it has nothing to do with the debilitation of one's argument once a quote from Palin is used as support.

Speaking to that, who actually used a Palin quote in the first place?
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Originally posted by funkyFatCan:
you really make yourself sound like an idiot when you use ANY Sarah Palin quote.
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Yo, Sparky. Hook ol' Homer up above ya. TIA.
 
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Most Republicans don't want Palin to run for president".

** Story at Noon **
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That's actually refreshing.

However, it has nothing to do with the debilitation of one's argument once a quote from Palin is used as support.

Speaking to that, who actually used a Palin quote in the first place?
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Originally posted by funkyFatCan:
you really make yourself sound like an idiot when you use ANY Sarah Palin quote.
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Yo, Sparky. Hook ol' Homer up above ya. TIA.
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JBH
But stil....how is that Hopey Changey stuff working out
 
Originally posted by Bill Cosby:
So Breitbart goes on Opie and Anthony, passes the photo around the studio, studio camera catches a glimpse, someone grabs screenshot, and now a photo of Weiner's cock is out and about.


And it couldn't happen to a dumber asshole than Weiner.
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Weiners weiner is cooked. Or something like that.
 
Bad news for Newt to have the higher ups in his campaign resign over differences in how the campaign was being run.
 
The President's brilliant team he assembled to guide the United States economy in these troubled times...

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4 out of 5 jerk the ripchord on this disaster, smart enough to get out before they became to saturated with the stink of its failure. And the only survivor is the one who admitted to being a tax cheat.
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Originally posted by Bill Cosby:
And it couldn't happen to a dumber asshole than Weiner.
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There needs to be a new type of registry, like the Sex Offenders, and Wiener should be the first to sign up. There’s just something extremely creepy about that dude and I’d want to know if he was living in my neighborhood.

And he just needs to get it over with and step down. Yesterday.
 
Originally posted by WillGolf4Food:
From the other thread, Irish's take on MR...

Originally posted by Irish Beck:
And, let us not forget, the notion that he is a "wacky" Christ follower is something that a lot of his bible belt voting block will not be down with.
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The wacky Christ factor is really a shame, although admittedly I never got comfortable around the few Mormons I’ve known casually/worked with, don’t know why.

Depending on Romney’s VP choice and after getting a chance to examine his policy on key issues there’s a chance he’d get my vote.

But I think one advantage Obama has is the electorate could be reluctant to give one party control of everything. Haven’t had a chance to look at the Senate race yet, but that could be a deciding factor.
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Good points. I believe there are alot more Democratic seats up in the Senate in 2012 for that will be pivotal as well.
 
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Not good . . .
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** Breaking News **

Beauty Queen Chosen to Lead the 'Critical Thinkers'.

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** Live at Five **
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She is without a doubt the dumbest person the Democrats could have picked. Nothing but sound bites and rhetoric. Palin looks like a rocket scientist next to her.
 
Originally posted by BleedBluNAZ:
Palin looks like a rocket scientist next to her.
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Incredibly false. I'm not a huge fan of Wasserman Schultz, but the people who make Sarah Palin look like a rocket scientist are listed below:

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Originally posted by funkyFatCan:
Health reform working? Not sure if this is a trend or not, but sounds encouraging.

First it was Aetna. Now Blue Shield of California is doing the right thing. Who will be next? Health Insurers are beginning to slice premiums and rebate money to customers.
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Did you just link something from The Century Foundation?

Liberal think tanks don't count as links, Card Killa. And yes someone linked The Heritage Foundation recently and yes they got called out.
 
So, pretty much all of Newt Gingrich's top-tier staff quit today - apparently because his two week vacation in the Mediterranean convinced them that he's not willing to do the real work involved with a serious White House run, and really just wanted to show off in debates. This would seem to put the final torpedo into his campaign, which was obviously already sinking.

The other candidates have some heavyweight operatives to choose from, now.
 
Originally posted by BleedBluNAZ:
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Not good . . .
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** Breaking News **

Beauty Queen Chosen to Lead the 'Critical Thinkers'.

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** Live at Five **
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She is without a doubt the dumbest person the Democrats could have picked. Nothing but sound bites and rhetoric. Palin looks like a rocket scientist next to her.
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According to various local experts, "she's fire".

[ Insert long-winded replies gasping for credibility here __________, here __________, and here __________. ]
 
Herman Cain said today that he'd require an "oath of loyalty to the United States constitution" before he'd allow a Muslim to serve in his cabinet - but would not require the same of a Catholic or Mormon.

“The exact language was when I was asked, ‘Would you be comfortable with a Muslim in your cabinet?’ and I said no,” Cain said. “I would not be comfortable. I didn’t say I wouldn’t appoint one because if they can prove to me they are putting the Constitution of the United States first, they would be a candidate just like everybody else. My entire career I hired good people, great people, regardless of their religious orientation.”

BECK: So wait a minute, are you saying that Muslims have to prove, there has to be a loyalty proof?
CAIN: Yes, to the Constitution of the United States of America.
BECK: Well, would you do that to a Catholic or a Mormon?
CAIN: No, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t because there is a greater dangerous part of the Muslim faith than there is in these other religions. I know there are some Muslims who talk about but we’re a peaceful religion. I’m sure that there are some peace-loving.
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Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Not good . . .
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** Breaking News **

Beauty Queen Chosen to Lead the 'Critical Thinkers'.

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** Live at Five **
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Apparently this photo was taken when Mrs. Schultz was battling breast cancer. This photo was from late 2008, she disclosed that she beat cancer in early 2009 after seven surgeries that removed her breasts and ovaries.

Well played, Mulva. All class.

How would you all compare her to other cancer stricken patients who've recently undergone multiple surgeries??
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Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Apparently this photo was taken when Mrs. Schultz was battling breast cancer. This photo was from late 2008, she disclosed that she beat cancer in early 2009 after seven surgeries that removed her breasts and ovaries.

Well played, Mulva. All class.
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That was totally unbeknownst to me, Sparky. My mistake. I'm man enough to apologize for such oversight. My sincere apologies, therefore.

But lest we not get too excited, Sparky.
 
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
That was totally unbeknownst to me, Sparky. My mistake. I'm man enough to apologize for such oversight. My sincere apologies, therefore.

But lest we not get too excited, Sparky.
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Not too excited at all. I'm more "shocked" at your normal reply.
 
Originally posted by WillGolf4Food:
Originally posted by BleedBluNAZ:
Palin looks like a rocket scientist next to her.
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I don’t think Palin could spell scientist.

She might get lucky with rocket.
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Agreed, however, Wasserman couldn't poor it out of a boot either. Bad, bad pick for the Democrats.
 
Originally posted by Rex Kwon Do:
- CatsRuleBadPosts: You make cbpb's "raise your hand" post from a while back look more reasonable every day. I chastised it then, but rethinking. You bring nothing good to the table. Pretty terrible, really. Good day of mostly jeh/lumpy free politard posts and you choose to add BECAUSE DUMOCRATS HATE TEH AMURRICA!!!!11 Democrats don't hate Amurrica, they have a pretty different take on how Amurrica should operate. One I generally disagree with. Why don't you A.) post better takes with either linked facts or decent commentary 2.) practice over on the test board or III.) neither, renounce your Netzero account, and leave.
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I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay late on this (sorry), but still.

Suck of the magnitude of the keyboard diarrhea brought to the table by WhitesRuleSEC transcends party/ideological lines. Some people are just touchin' terrible, and he's one of them.
 
Originally posted by ukbob:
Good stuff Rex.

The immediate help on pricing would be to call off the EPA and all of the different gas blends. That would cut at least $1 per gallon immediately. Stupid idea from one of the most out of control government agencies in history.

Not only drill, baby, drill but refine, baby, refine. Then, instead if sitting on our asses enjoying the new found wealth to most Americans, find a better way to use energy during our happier time.

Of course, with the EPA controlling everything from your toilet, to light bulbs to energy expansion, it will never happen. Reduce the power of the EPA and you get relief.
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^Rack this. The EPA and OSHA are two of the main reasons lots of manufacturing jobs went overseas. The cost of doing business here was too much. I am not for disbanding both those agencies,but their power has to be scaled back. Our city tried to build a lake for future water needs,the EPA help it up for 2 years over some damn mussel,or something.
 
Originally posted by BleedBluNAZ:
Originally posted by AustinTXCat:
Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:
Not good . . .
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** Breaking News **

Beauty Queen Chosen to Lead the 'Critical Thinkers'.

Debbie%2BWasserman%2BSchultz.jpg


** Live at Five **
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She is without a doubt the dumbest person the Democrats could have picked. Nothing but sound bites and rhetoric. Palin looks like a rocket scientist next to her.
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But,she makes Chris Matthews other leg tingle. I think she has a cot at MSNBC.
 
Originally posted by cbpointblank1979:
Herman Cain said today that he'd require an "oath of loyalty to the United States constitution" before he'd allow a Muslim to serve in his cabinet - but would not require the same of a Catholic or Mormon.

“The exact language was when I was asked, ‘Would you be comfortable with a Muslim in your cabinet?’ and I said no,” Cain said. “I would not be comfortable. I didn’t say I wouldn’t appoint one because if they can prove to me they are putting the Constitution of the United States first, they would be a candidate just like everybody else. My entire career I hired good people, great people, regardless of their religious orientation.”

BECK: So wait a minute, are you saying that Muslims have to prove, there has to be a loyalty proof?
CAIN: Yes, to the Constitution of the United States of America.
BECK: Well, would you do that to a Catholic or a Mormon?
CAIN: No, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t because there is a greater dangerous part of the Muslim faith than there is in these other religions. I know there are some Muslims who talk about but we’re a peaceful religion. I’m sure that there are some peace-loving.
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Originally posted by sobecat:
Irish is drunk again. Shocker
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If you can't find the disgusting part of that conversation, I don't know what to tell you.
 
Originally posted by cbpointblank1979:
CN2 poll released tonight on the Kentucky gubernatorial race:

Beshear- 51%
Williams- 29.6%
Galbraith- 5.6%

Wow.
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I'll hold my nose when I say this, but.......GOOD.

I hate Williams more than I dislike Beshear.
 
This Governor's race is going to be marked by a nastiness totally disproportionate to it's closeness. Normally the really ugly races are neck and neck. This is going to be a blowout, but it's going to be absolutely filthy.
 
SB is not a terrible gov but for the life of me I can't understand his choice of Abrahamson for LG. Makes no sense unless I am just missing something obvious. Maybe he anticipated a close election due to the national '10 and wanted to squeeze even more votes out of Lou? IDK. But Jerry has zero chance of being elected governor after SB.

Williams is terrible and it is a shame he is our nominee. May hold my vote on that one. One thing I am cutting him a little slack is his gaming stance once he clarified it on Mandy Connell's show. I am 100% pro gaming on any/airything. I don't believe DW is, but he made a good point. Why the hell would we just hand CHD whatever it wants? Why wouldn't we open it up to any business that sees fit to open a casino? Stayed at the casino in downtown St Louis last year...good times (No homeless people, prostitutes/whoring of any kind, dregs of society nearby, by the way. STL did not open up a portal to hell by having a casino downtown).

Point? Why would we decide to give one business a monopoly on gaming (and not just that, stupid gaffot ass video poker that no one under the age of 85 will play)? Damn dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life.

Open gaming of all kinds. CHD wants SGAVP? Have at it. But if a business wants to buy property downtown and open a casino with the whole slate then fine. Every citizen in this great Commonwealth can decide for him/herself if they want to go gamble their own money.

AFTER ALL THEY CAN GO GIVE ALL OF THEIR CASH TO THE KY LOTTERY ALREADY YOU MFERS, WHICH THEY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOTS AND FRANKFORT TURNS AND SQUANDERS BECAUSE THEY ARE TERRIBLE PEOPLE.
 
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