Ill take that too. LolI think KU still gets a 1 seed. In your scenario, UK moves to the 3 overall and KU drops to the 4 overall. We go to the Midwest and they go to the East.
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Ill take that too. LolI think KU still gets a 1 seed. In your scenario, UK moves to the 3 overall and KU drops to the 4 overall. We go to the Midwest and they go to the East.
These two teams have extremely similar resumes. They are within a game of each other in quad 1 wins, losses, etc. Same record overall. Both top 10 to top 5 all season. There is not a great way to differentiate, with the exception of…Because head to head is just one game. But the fact that UK creamed KU in Kansas makes it really hard to not put additional import on the hth.
Disregarding your last sentence...the ncaa is always going to take care of Kansas and Puke no matter the circumstances. KU even being mentioned as a 1 over UK is ridiculous! UK should be a lock for a #3 1.Forget Lunardi, who is always wrong on seeds. Look at it logically:
With little room for maneuver, there are only five teams with a possibility of a #1 seed: Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, Kentucky and Baylor.
Forget Duke. As of right now they have two Quad 2 losses and 1 Quad 3 loss compared to ZERO by Kentucky. Using their own Quad system, the NCAA could never justify that. And forget Auburn. Yesterday's loss, while Kentucky won, shut the door on them.
That basically made it a head-to-head with what Baylor and Kentucky did this week. Baylor lost its first game. Kentucky won. Baylor has one more Quad 1 win, but also has a Quad 2 loss - which Kentucky doesn't and wouldn't have whatever happens the rest of the way. A loss to Tennessee - looking like a team with a shot at a #2 seed - would not change Kentucky's profile much.
And finally, given that SEC pretty much wrecked Kansas and Baylor in the head-to-head Challenge, I believe the Committee would NOT want to give the B-12 TWO #1 seeds and the conference that virtually everyone rates as the toughest ZERO.
I'd be interested in thoughtful disagreements, beyond "The Committee always screws Kentucky."
If we win today, we're getting the #1 seed in Chicago, with Duke as our #2 seed and probably someone like UCLA as our #4 seed.
Might even get Illinois in there as well. They're going to give us a murderer's row, and I'm fine with that.
If we win the SECT I would absolutely agree with what you are saying. We still have 2 games to win first though.Disregarding your last sentence...the ncaa is always going to take care of Kansas and Puke no matter the circumstances. KU even being mentioned as a 1 over UK is ridiculous! UK should be a lock for a #3 1.
Forget Lunardi, who is always wrong on seeds. Look at it logically:
With little room for maneuver, there are only five teams with a possibility of a #1 seed: Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, Kentucky and Baylor.
Forget Duke. As of right now they have two Quad 2 losses and 1 Quad 3 loss compared to ZERO by Kentucky. Using their own Quad system, the NCAA could never justify that. And forget Auburn. Yesterday's loss, while Kentucky won, shut the door on them.
That basically made it a head-to-head with what Baylor and Kentucky did this week. Baylor lost its first game. Kentucky won. Baylor has one more Quad 1 win, but also has a Quad 2 loss - which Kentucky doesn't and wouldn't have whatever happens the rest of the way. A loss to Tennessee - looking like a team with a shot at a #2 seed - would not change Kentucky's profile much.
And finally, given that SEC pretty much wrecked Kansas and Baylor in the head-to-head Challenge, I believe the Committee would NOT want to give the B-12 TWO #1 seeds and the conference that virtually everyone rates as the toughest ZERO.
I'd be interested in thoughtful disagreements, beyond "The Committee always screws Kentucky."
That’s funny considering Baylor and KU don’t have to win…If we win the SECT I would absolutely agree with what you are saying. We still have 2 games to win first though.
It should but it wont. Lets just win the damn thing and remove all doubt.I think we need to win today. If we lose today and KU wins the Big12, I can see Baylor and KU both getting 1 seeds. I think a win today secured a #1 seed with both Auburn and Baylor losing earlier.
I think we’d have to win todayForget Lunardi, who is always wrong on seeds. Look at it logically:
With little room for maneuver, there are only five teams with a possibility of a #1 seed: Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, Kentucky and Baylor.
Forget Duke. As of right now they have two Quad 2 losses and 1 Quad 3 loss compared to ZERO by Kentucky. Using their own Quad system, the NCAA could never justify that. And forget Auburn. Yesterday's loss, while Kentucky won, shut the door on them.
That basically made it a head-to-head with what Baylor and Kentucky did this week. Baylor lost its first game. Kentucky won. Baylor has one more Quad 1 win, but also has a Quad 2 loss - which Kentucky doesn't and wouldn't have whatever happens the rest of the way. A loss to Tennessee - looking like a team with a shot at a #2 seed - would not change Kentucky's profile much.
And finally, given that SEC pretty much wrecked Kansas and Baylor in the head-to-head Challenge, I believe the Committee would NOT want to give the B-12 TWO #1 seeds and the conference that virtually everyone rates as the toughest ZERO.
I'd be interested in thoughtful disagreements, beyond "The Committee always screws Kentucky."
Same.I think a win today should seal it. But hell who knows.
He won’t and he never has.How many times today does Bilas say Duke should get a 1 seed?
Gotta win out, imho. We’ll be a 2 if we lose today or tomorrow.
If we end up a 2 in Baylor’s 1, I’ll be elated.
And a boat load of quality wins. This is why Kenpom has UK at #2 just behind Chrissy Hynde and the Pretenders.Quad 1 wins are not the tell all if you have Quad 2 and 3 losses
UK has zero bad losses
Apparently Lunardi just said if we win today, we're locked in as a 1.
I still think I prefer to be the #2 in Gonzagas region, even if its on the moon.Forget Lunardi, who is always wrong on seeds. Look at it logically:
With little room for maneuver, there are only five teams with a possibility of a #1 seed: Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, Kentucky and Baylor.
Forget Duke. As of right now they have two Quad 2 losses and 1 Quad 3 loss compared to ZERO by Kentucky. Using their own Quad system, the NCAA could never justify that. And forget Auburn. Yesterday's loss, while Kentucky won, shut the door on them.
That basically made it a head-to-head with what Baylor and Kentucky did this week. Baylor lost its first game. Kentucky won. Baylor has one more Quad 1 win, but also has a Quad 2 loss - which Kentucky doesn't and wouldn't have whatever happens the rest of the way. A loss to Tennessee - looking like a team with a shot at a #2 seed - would not change Kentucky's profile much.
And finally, given that SEC pretty much wrecked Kansas and Baylor in the head-to-head Challenge, I believe the Committee would NOT want to give the B-12 TWO #1 seeds and the conference that virtually everyone rates as the toughest ZERO.
I'd be interested in thoughtful disagreements, beyond "The Committee always screws Kentucky."
Wow, imagine the NBA Jam style dippedy doo dunk a roos we could do, baby!I still think I prefer to be the #2 in Gonzagas region, even if its on the moon.
Still #2 in KenPom.I see we got passed by Houston yesterday in the NET Rankings. We moved from 3rd to 4th. They beat Cincinnati who was 97th and we beat Vandy who was 66th. I'm going to let everyone in on a little secret. No one knows crap about what's going to happen. This is the NCAA we are talking about.
AgreedI hate to break it to you but if Kentucky loses to Tennessee today they are not getting a #1 seed. The committee probably has it Kansas #3, Baylor #4 and Kentucky #5 overall if Kansas wins today and Kentucky loses today they will keep their theory of H2H means nothing when a team is not next to each other.
Zero chance Kentucky gets a #1 seed with a loss today
ZERO
This guy thinks Kentucky has to win SEC tournament AND Kansas has to lose to get a #1 seed.
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Your forgetting to divide the winning score by the radius of the international space stations orbit at the time of victory. It's an easy mistake to make.I see we got passed by Houston yesterday in the NET Rankings. We moved from 3rd to 4th. They beat Cincinnati who was 97th and we beat Vandy who was 66th. I'm going to let everyone in on a little secret. No one knows crap about what's going to happen. This is the NCAA we are talking about.
Lol that is so not true.The Committee always says SEC Tourney final does not come into play so win today it a #1 lose it a #2