Do you go to Church?
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It doesn't even have to be a game of telephone, though. It can be the same sequence of words yielding multiple interpretations.
The only way to find the correct interpretation, of course, is to make a down payment of 10% of your income. Then you'll get your super secrete Orphan Annie decoder ring and the key to immortality will be revealed to you every Sunday morning at 10AM (simulcast en Espanol, of course)
The version you use here is translated incorrectly. Any version that translates the original Koine Greek to imply a resurrection here (zombies terrorizing the town as you put it) is inaccurate and most importantly - it does not harmonize contextually with the remainder of the scriptures.
To be clear I believe MOST religions have estimable points.
I try to live my life by the best parts of those religions.
To be even clearer, I believe religion is a man made concept. One crafted from fear, necessity and opportunity, in that order.
Edit:Took out all those damn commas.
I try to live my life by the best parts of those religions.
To be even clearer, I believe religion is a man made concept. One crafted from fear, necessity and opportunity, in that order.
Edit:Took out all those damn commas.
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The overall majority here simply use the English word "raised" or "arose" and the minority improperly imply some sort of actual resurrection took place here. It didn't. That is why the majority stop well short of saying "raised to life".
To be fair - many translators do consider this one of the most difficult scriptures to translate (and transliterate) from the original Greek into English because of how the Greek word for "raise" may be used in different ways.
The context here does not support a literal resurrection nor does it harmonize with the remaining scriptures. What it does support is simply corpses being thrown out of their tombs in an earthquake and passersby naturally going into the city to tell about it.
With all due respect jamo0001, isn't this a bit of a cop out? Wouldn't this type of thinking cause people to throw their hands up and just walk away, never really knowing which is right or which is wrong?
I'm not suggesting this applies to you - but wouldn't you agree it applies to many in this thread? It seems the majority here are simply incapable of defending themselves.
How is it a cop out? We have the same issue with the US Constitution, hence having to maintain a massive judicial bureaucracy in order to interpret it in various situations.
There's a lot of commentary on this verse. One says it's a fulfillment of Daniel 12:2 talking about resurrections of the dead. I'm not interested in reading them all at the moment and I'm not planning on learning ancient Greek. Nor do I trust anybody's opinion.
I would expect god to make his message understandable by everybody. As already mentioned, that's another reason to reject it as purely man-made.
I would expect god to make his message understandable by everybody. As already mentioned, that's another reason to reject it as purely man-made.
Daniel 12:2 has a fulfillment that is still in the future and has implications for all mankind. It has nothing to do with Matthew 27, which already happened 2,000 years ago and only affected a small amount of people in and around Jerusalem.
Thanks for your opinion on that commentary. I know there are many others to the contrary.
You still haven't answered the overall issue regarding flawed translations. Is there one named translation that is accurate for all books of the Bible or even just the NT? I think not. Not only are language translations involved, but also textual variants. Just wanted your thoughts about it. I'm off to bed.
You still haven't answered the overall issue regarding flawed translations. Is there one named translation that is accurate for all books of the Bible or even just the NT? I think not. Not only are language translations involved, but also textual variants. Just wanted your thoughts about it. I'm off to bed.
There is not one extant manuscript (and there are 5,000 of them!) of the Christian Greek scriptures, nor one competent translation that relies on oral traditions.
Yes.
I would think an atheist would be hostile to such a thing though? Why cast pearls before swine, so to speak?
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Lol, I think you have the wrong robert Johnson. This one was a black blues singer that could barely read or write. Legend has it, he went down to the "crossroads" and sold his soul to be a talented musician/singer. It's been said the devil took his eye, as down payment. He started the curse of 27 which was proceed by the likes of cobain, Joplin, Hendrix, and Morrison are just a few.
lol, I just realized your subliminal South Park reference
lol, I just realized your subliminal South Park reference
No. The same Robert Johnson W2B. I know the story. Here's the real truth. He unfortunately carried the Ginger gene, thus making the contract with the devil null and void. Mr Johnson was granted celestial amnesty and now tells that very story to people up in Heaven. They think it's a hoot.
