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Zagoria: UK Signees Recruiting MVP Diallo to UK

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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria · 30m 30 minutes ago





Cheick Diallo Wins MVP in Losing Cause at Jordan Classic, Kentucky Signees Recruiting Him to Lexington http://zagsblog.com/articles/cheick-diallo-wins-mvp-in-losing-cause-at-jordan-classic-kentucky-signees-recruiting-him-to-lexington/ …
Ben Roberts þ@NextCats 7m7 minutes ago

Cheick Diallo, after winning MVP at Jordan game: "Thank you (Isaiah) Briscoe. Briscoe gave me a lot of buckets." http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/cheick-diallo-impressive-in-all-star-game-to-visit-with-chris-mullin-on-saturday-1.10290587 …
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Diallo would give UK instant toughness that I think we currently lack for next year. Got to have a guy that will run through a brick wall to get a rebound. It would have been really nice if we had a player like that against Wisconsin. Maybe we wouldn't have got embarrassed on the boards. If UK can pickup Diallo and a sf/sg they would be set for next year.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think that play where Matthews passed back to a trailing Diallo instead of going in for an easy dunk was recruiting after all. At the time I was half-joking.
 
And how is he even considering playing for a coach with no experience, for a team that has no shot to win a title, instead of for Cal at the winningest program ever? Just because Slice recruited him? If so, then I don't think this season's misses are on Cal. Just ran into a group of players with other agendas than winning.
 
Watched him play several times and he is the best big in the class when games are played the way they were tonight. He is an open floor big who is awesome in transition. I have also watched him against big guys taller and beefier than him and the games started out fast and Diallo was shining but after halftime they slowed it down....way down and started running screens and they were knocking around Diallo pretty bad. He was a warrior though but you could tell it was taking it's toll on him as he then started trying to go around the screens instead of through them and shying away on O by lingering 15 away from the basket as they were beating him around underneath as well on the other end.

What I'm sayin is for him to be utilized here we need to run it and push the pace. If he goes somewhere else all we have to do is get physical with him and he will disappear. But who do we have to be physical with him?
 
Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
And how is he even considering playing for a coach with no experience, for a team that has no shot to win a title, instead of for Cal at the winningest program ever? Just because Slice recruited him? If so, then I don't think this season's misses are on Cal. Just ran into a group of players with other agendas than winning.
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Originally posted by Bluegrass79:
Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
And how is he even considering playing for a coach with no experience, for a team that has no shot to win a title, instead of for Cal at the winningest program ever? Just because Slice recruited him? If so, then I don't think this season's misses are on Cal. Just ran into a group of players with other agendas than winning.
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I love Diallo but I think getting 6-9 Ingram for the SF gives us a national championship caliber team.
We are plenty fine without Diallo with Poy at the 4 backed up by Lee.
If I could have just one of Diallo, Ingram and Newman, I take Ingram without blinking.
 
Has Cal had a meeting with him before, and/or is one scheduled? Seems like a lot of scrambling going on for this guy.
 
Love to have him. High energy guy. We need a shooter/scorer on the wing more, but talent like Diallo's would definitely help us.

Starters
G Ulis
G Briscoe
F Poythress
F Diallo
F Labissiere

Key Reserves
F Lee- frontcourt sub.
G Matthews- backcourt sub.

That would be a very good defensive team that probably struggles to score against good defenses. We need another shooter on that team for it to be a decent offensive unit, IMHO.
 
Agree POY is a 4 not 3, Like to See Diallo no matter what though. Him and Ingram round out class would be great.
 
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
Has Cal had a meeting with him before, and/or is one scheduled? Seems like a lot of scrambling going on for this guy.
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pretty sure UK has an in-home scheduled soon with him... maybe next week. I still think Kansas gets him.
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What is the reason you think he goes to KU?
 
Originally posted by JasonSpear:
I don't wanna see any lineup that has Poythress at the Fn 3. Stop it. I refuse to even acknowledge it.
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Poythress at the 3 magnifies his weaknesses, Poythress at the 4 magnifies his strengths.
 
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
What is the reason you think he goes to KU?
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deductive reasoning. They'll play him 30 mpg at the 5. It's a more elite program. Iowa State lost his lead recruiter to St. Johns as did UK, but it's still St. Johns and he's admitted he doesn't even really know Chris Mullin at all. He's planning on making a decision in the next week or two. I just don't see him committing to a head coach he barely knows. We'll see.

Plus, Self has been and will continue to be on him like stink on a rhino turd.
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chance to explain,
 
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
Has Cal had a meeting with him before, and/or is one scheduled? Seems like a lot of scrambling going on for this guy.
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pretty sure UK has an in-home scheduled soon with him... maybe next week. I still think Kansas gets him.
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Not too familiar with KU's roster coming into next year but I'm assuming that Perry Ellis will still be there since I haven't heard anything about him leaving. So, what do you think Self is selling him on at KU? Diallo stated that playing time was an important factor in his college decision. I know they played with Ellis and Alexander last year but that didn't work out so well for Alexander as he has taken a significant drop in the draft rankings for this draft. So, what to you think Self is selling to Diallo to try and get him in Lawrence?
 
Originally posted by wromanp7:

Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
What is the reason you think he goes to KU?
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deductive reasoning. They'll play him 30 mpg at the 5. It's a more elite program. Iowa State lost his lead recruiter to St. Johns as did UK, but it's still St. Johns and he's admitted he doesn't even really know Chris Mullin at all. He's planning on making a decision in the next week or two. I just don't see him committing to a head coach he barely knows. We'll see.

Plus, Self has been and will continue to be on him like stink on a rhino turd.
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chance to explain,
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I'm pretty sure he was referring to St. Johns in the bolded quote, not UK.
 
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
What is the reason you think he goes to KU?
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deductive reasoning. They'll play him 30 mpg at the 5. It's a more elite program. Iowa State lost his lead recruiter to St. Johns as did UK, but it's still St. Johns and he's admitted he doesn't even really know Chris Mullin at all. He's planning on making a decision in the next week or two. I just don't see him committing to a head coach he barely knows. We'll see.

Plus, Self has been and will continue to be on him like stink on a rhino turd.
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Just like Alexander got all those minutes? Just because they have minutes available doesn't mean Self will give them to him. At the point Alexander got in trouble with the NCAA his minutes were going down. He averaged 9 minutes his last three games.
 
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

deductive reasoning. They'll play him 30 mpg at the 5. It's a more elite program. Iowa State lost his lead recruiter to St. Johns as did UK, but it's still St. Johns and he's admitted he doesn't even really know Chris Mullin at all. He's planning on making a decision in the next week or two. I just don't see him committing to a head coach he barely knows. We'll see.

Plus, Self has been and will continue to be on him like stink on a rhino turd.
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Here's my possible deductive reasoning. I think he comes to UK. He'll get all the minutes he wants at UK. I think he and Skal have had a chance to bond over the course of these all-star games. I think they are both Haitian, no? So it may come down to his comfort level with Skal. And I think that will play out in the end.
 
Originally posted by hoggwildcat:

Originally posted by Smashcat:
12:59 am
Evan Daniels þ@EvanDaniels 2m2 minutes ago

Kansas' Bill Self is meeting with Cheick Diallo right now, per a source.
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At 1am, is he watching Diallo sleep?
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OT but why did I think of Tom Crean when you asked that?
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Originally posted by Willy4UK:
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

deductive reasoning. They'll play him 30 mpg at the 5. It's a more elite program. Iowa State lost his lead recruiter to St. Johns as did UK, but it's still St. Johns and he's admitted he doesn't even really know Chris Mullin at all. He's planning on making a decision in the next week or two. I just don't see him committing to a head coach he barely knows. We'll see.

Plus, Self has been and will continue to be on him like stink on a rhino turd.
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Here's my possible deductive reasoning. I think he comes to UK. He'll get all the minutes he wants at UK. I think he and Skal have had a chance to bond over the course of these all-star games. I think they are both Haitian, no? So it may come down to his comfort level with Skal. And I think that will play out in the end.
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Believe he's African... Mali?...

I think his relationship with Briscoe will be the key to getting him in Blue. I couldn't believe how well those two played together as if they were already teammates..... could be telling!!!!


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Originally posted by Willy4UK:
Originally posted by JasonSpear:

deductive reasoning. They'll play him 30 mpg at the 5. It's a more elite program. Iowa State lost his lead recruiter to St. Johns as did UK, but it's still St. Johns and he's admitted he doesn't even really know Chris Mullin at all. He's planning on making a decision in the next week or two. I just don't see him committing to a head coach he barely knows. We'll see.

Plus, Self has been and will continue to be on him like stink on a rhino turd.
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Here's my possible deductive reasoning. I think he comes to UK. He'll get all the minutes he wants at UK. I think he and Skal have had a chance to bond over the course of these all-star games. I think they are both Haitian, no? So it may come down to his comfort level with Skal. And I think that will play out in the end.
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Diallo and Newman have been more publicly vocal than most about insisting on lots of playing time next year. Of course, Calipari doesn't promise anything to anyone. At Kentucky, playing time is won in practice after the player proves he is fundamentally sound on the defensive end. But Calipari may have an extra card up his sleeve this week. There has been so much gossip on the internet about Kentucky possibly missing on all the uncommitted elite players that an uncommitted player wanting max playing time might figure this as the right time to commit to Kentucky. Especially forwards and wings. Not to minimize Poythress' importance at all, but Alex didn't play after his November injury. I doubt Diallo would shy away from competing with Alex. Slice's move gets St. John's back in the race. But if Diallo wants to play in a great program, Kentucky still makes the most sense for him. If Calipari's in home visit goes well, it isn't out of the question at all.
 
Originally posted by Blue Decade:


Originally posted by Willy4UK:
Here's my possible deductive reasoning. I think he comes to UK. He'll get all the minutes he wants at UK. I think he and Skal have had a chance to bond over the course of these all-star games. I think they are both Haitian, no? So it may come down to his comfort level with Skal. And I think that will play out in the end.
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Diallo and Newman have been more publicly vocal than most about insisting on lots of playing time next year. Of course, Calipari doesn't promise anything to anyone. At Kentucky, playing time is won in practice after the player proves he is fundamentally sound on the defensive end. But Calipari may have an extra card up his sleeve this week. There has been so much gossip on the internet about Kentucky possibly missing on all the uncommitted elite players that an uncommitted player wanting max playing time might figure this as the right time to commit to Kentucky. Especially forwards and wings.
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I agree. Cal doesn't promise time and Diallo's motor will keep him on the floor. Just to clarify the "all the minutes he wants at UK". Gonna be hard to keep him off the floor.
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Irishcatdaddy- Yep, you're right. He's Mali. Thanks for the correction
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The key to a terrific class is Brown IMO. He has few equals.

Newman hasn't played very well in either high profile game IMO. Does that make him lesser of a need?

Diallo has been terrific in an open game.....did anyone see any video of him in practice matching Skal or Maker?

I'd be very happy with any of the above as I don't see Ingram coming here......I haven't heard anything in our favor from him.

Brown is still my 1st choice; then give me any of the others.
 
How many guys will Cal really take that could possibly stay next year. 2016 is a huge year for studs and if only one or two guys leave it won't leave us many schollies for guys like Monk and Tatum and Giles and Jackson and Murray etc..Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
I love these recruiting threads where we throw around reasoning and logic to explain were we these kids will end up. History has shown logic has NOTHING to do with it for most of these guys. The fact that UK is battling UNLV, Miss. State and St. Johns for a couple of our top targets tells you these kids are using a different set of criteria. Heck, a girl they met on a recruiting visit probably weighs more into the decision than facilities, exposure or chances to compete for a title.
 
Originally posted by UKDUNK:
I love these recruiting threads where we throw around reasoning and logic to explain were we these kids will end up. History has shown logic has NOTHING to do with it for most of these guys. The fact that UK is battling UNLV, Miss. State and St. Johns for a couple of our top targets tells you these kids are using a different set of criteria. Heck, a girl they met on a recruiting visit probably weighs more into the decision than facilities, exposure or chances to compete for a title.
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Very true for this class. Not much is making sense.

i like the French angle for Skal and Diallo
 
The practice deal alone at UK would make sense as much as anything for Diallo. Playing with and against pros everyday is a pretty big deal. He really likes Skal and Briscoe already. And Cal prepares these guys better than any other coach for the transition to the pros. If having the biggest fan following and winning most of your games is important to him this is it. He WOULD be on the floor most of the time, Cal loves high energy guys.

St Johns would be his home as a good reason to go there. Other than that, they don't come close to touching what UK offers. A 'no experience coach' versus a 'get them to the league coach' would have to make a huge difference in Diallos developement and readiness for going pro. Surely a player sees all that, but every year there are those three or four that seem to put insignificant things first.
 
Originally posted by UKDUNK:
I love these recruiting threads where we throw around reasoning and logic to explain were we these kids will end up. History has shown logic has NOTHING to do with it for most of these guys. The fact that UK is battling UNLV, Miss. State and St. Johns for a couple of our top targets tells you these kids are using a different set of criteria. Heck, a girl they met on a recruiting visit probably weighs more into the decision than facilities, exposure or chances to compete for a title.
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Of all the stuff I read here about recruiting I agree with this more than any of it. We all know the merits of Cal and UK, but sometimes, perhaps often times it just doesn't matter. There are many factor's in these decisions, and none of us knows which one/ones are the most important in the mind of any particular recruit. I have no idea who it will be, but I do believe when it's all said and done Cal will pick up another 1-2 recruits.
 
Recruiting logic is an oxymoron (from the Greek "sharp=oxy, moron = dull"). Nothing makes sense in general but everything makes sense in the particular. Example. Cal has coached 5 of the ten best young guards in the NBA but Newman wants to be the lead dog at the point so he goes to where he can be the lead dog (Starkville).

Cal put (will put) Terrance Jones, Patrick Patterson, Trey Lyles and MKG in the league but Rabb and Big Z want to stay close to home.

Ingram wants to stay in Carolina (probably). Every recruit is different, everyone has his own hopes and dreams, logic or lack thereof. Example: Diallo may come to UK because Skal speaks French as does Diallo. Who could have seen that coming?

How about Mulder migrating up river from Vincennes? or Wynyard ( a real jewel) washing up on shore from New Zeeland. Recruiting is a Rubic's cube and somehow Cal gets all the squares aligned.
 
Originally posted by Mike-D:
Give me Ingrim, Diallo, and Mulder to finish the class.
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With that we might lose 1-2 games next year . I think Ingram , Mulder and thorne is more likely and even with that we are clear cut #1 and around a 4 loss team . WE are stacked at the big men posititions with Lee , Poy , Skal we just need one more big body to play D and get some rebounds.
 
Diallo + Poythress + Lee = the most athletic group of forwards in Kentucky history?


Throw in Skal down low, and UK's frontline is absolutely loaded.
 
Assuming we get Diallo to go along with Skal, AP and ML, I note that only one of them can shoot from more than ten feet!. We'll flip the floor and let Skal play 3 or 4 and put the others down low where their hops can get them some hoops I hope!
 
EMMCAT wrote:






Recruiting logic is an oxymoron (from the Greek "sharp=oxy, moron = dull"). Nothing makes sense in general but everything makes sense in the particular. Example. Cal has coached 5 of the ten best young guards in the NBA but Newman wants to be the lead dog at the point so he goes to where he can be the lead dog (Starkville).

Cal put (will put) Terrance Jones, Patrick Patterson, Trey Lyles and MKG in the league but Rabb and Big Z want to stay close to home.

Ingram wants to stay in Carolina (probably). Every recruit is different, everyone has his own hopes and dreams, logic or lack thereof. Example: Diallo may come to UK because Skal speaks French as does Diallo. Who could have seen that coming?

How about Mulder migrating up river from Vincennes? or Wynyard ( a real jewel) washing up on shore from New Zeeland. Recruiting is a Rubic's cube and somehow Cal gets all the squares aligned.





Very good post! I would love to have Diallo he is very intense. In UK's interest Wynyard needs to come in 2016. He would waste a whole year by sitting on the bench. In my opinion he's just not ready. To me I'm thinking Mulder and the big UAB transfer. IMHO

The beat goes on. Moore Jr from UAB committed to Illinois according to a CBS tweet.
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