Worst UK Rebounding Team of All Time

[UKWinsAgainYep]

I have never witnessed a worse UK rebounding team in my life. I don't know what Kenny Payne does as a coach. I do not know how he can sit on the sidelines with Coach Cal and watch this embarrassment of getting beat on the boards game in, game out. Pathetic, no will to win except for Ulis, Murray and a couple of others.

Did anyone else notice the tip in by A&M that won the game? They wanted that rebound more than us and that's why they won.

 

[.S&C.]

I'm sure glad we don't recruit a hang around 4 star bruiser for times like these. Just need more long athletes for 1 year.

Hey Skal is still lottery.

 

[Blueaz]

I'm sure glad we don't recruit a hang around 4 star bruiser for times like these. Just need more long athletes for 1 year.

Hey Skal is still lottery.

please, don't feed the troll.

 

[Aike]

Our rebounding rate still ranks 36th in the country, even though our top rebounder has missed the past 5 games.

We are actually a decent rebounding team when healthy.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

please, don't feed the troll.

Define why my post is wrong? I guess you don't like discussing the truth.

 

[brianpoe]

I have never witnessed a worse UK rebounding team in my life. I don't know what Kenny Payne does as a coach. I do not know how he can sit on the sidelines with Coach Cal and watch this embarrassment of getting beat on the boards game in, game out. Pathetic, no will to win except for Ulis, Murray and a couple of others.

Did anyone else notice the tip in by A&M that won the game? They wanted that rebound more than us and that's why they won.

You single handily tried to destroy the football board this season, take your stupid shit somewhere else.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Perhaps the OP is unaware that Humphries didn't play much the first half, but ended up with 12 rebs, Lee fouled out, Willis got hurt, and Poythress didn't play.

Also, they did have 15 offensive rebs in the first half, but only 5 in the second half, so we got much better at that as the game went on.

 

[kats23]

Probably not the worst, but simply this isn't a good frontline and when banged up it becomes worst. Depending on the health of this team and their 3 point shooting going forward, I think it will eventually be our undoing in the tournament. But hopefully we can get healthy and shoot well enough to make a run.

 

[The_Answer1313]

The puzzling thing is this team rebounds 38% of their misses. We ranked 12th in offensive rebounding.

Defensively tho........31.6% and 253rd in the nation.

I understand some of that is going for blocked shots and being outta position. Under Cal we have already been great on the offensive side of rebounding but poor defensively.

But it's just hard for me to grasp and understand. If u can get a board on offense, you can get one one defense.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

We lost that game because of a lazy player of ours letting that A&M player get a tip in. Humphries is our only hope to be a decent rebounding team.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Perhaps the OP is unaware that Humphries didn't play much the first half, but ended up with 12 rebs, Lee fouled out, Willis got hurt, and Poythress didn't play.

Also, they did have 15 offensive rebs in the first half, but only 5 in the second half, so we got much better at that as the game went on.

He's aware, he is just clueless about basketball just like he is about football.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

You single handily tried to destroy the football board this season, take your stupid shit somewhere else.

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum.

 

[Robcatt24]

I would have loved for UK to have landed either Caleb Swanigan or Thomas Bryant.

 

[Bungalow Bill]

I have never witnessed a worse UK rebounding team in my life. I don't know what Kenny Payne does as a coach. I do not know how he can sit on the sidelines with Coach Cal and watch this embarrassment of getting beat on the boards game in, game out. Pathetic, no will to win except for Ulis, Murray and a couple of others.

Did anyone else notice the tip in by A&M that won the game? They wanted that rebound more than us and that's why they won.

Ragging on Kenny Payne shows you are totally ignorant. Terrible 1st half on the boards does not equal worst UK rebounding team.

 

[The_Answer1313]

The OP isn't exactly wrong tho........we are a horrible DEFENSIVE rebounding team.

Actually going back all the way to 2002 (only have data that long), this actually is the worst defensive rebounding team in that era and it's not even close.

 

[acatnamedmyra]

That wasn't personal, was it?

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Why are you blaming coach Payne? You werent pinning the blame/praise on him last yr w/ the Monstars downlow.

We simply dont have the personnel. Skal is a twig. Lee is a twig. Willis is a twig. Poythress is 6'8. Isaac is a baby at the CBB level.

+ We're banged up. Now we have depleted unit that wasnt strong to begin with.

If Isaac proves last game wasnt a fluke & we get back to full health, we can become above average in this department in the tourney.

 

[Aike]

The puzzling thing is this team rebounds 38% of their misses. We ranked 12th in offensive rebounding.

Defensively tho........31.6% and 253rd in the nation.

I understand some of that is going for blocked shots and being outta position. Under Cal we have already been great on the offensive side of rebounding but poor defensively.

But it's just hard for me to grasp and understand. If u can get a board on offense, you can get one one defense.

That means we are grabbing 70% of defensive boards. And our block rate is still 7th in the country.

The first half last night was an abomination on the boards, but considering our personnel we haven't been that bad on the season.

 

[Aike]

The OP isn't exactly wrong tho........we are a horrible DEFENSIVE rebounding team.

Actually going back all the way to 2002 (only have data that long), this actually is the worst defensive rebounding team in that era and it's not even close.

Cal's teams are never great defensive rebounding teams because of style of play.

We only ranked 143rd in the country last year with all that size.

But you already knew that, right?

 

[The_Answer1313]

All I'm saying is he's not wrong. We aren't a great defensive rebounding team.

And we are a great offensive rebounding team.

That coupled with taking out our best def rebounder in Poy and then losing Willis and then Lee fouling out...well your gonna have a tough time rebounding

 

[Aike]

All I'm saying is he's not wrong. We aren't a great defensive rebounding team.

And we are a great offensive rebounding team.

That coupled with taking out our best def rebounder in Poy and then losing Willis and then Lee fouling out...well your gonna have a tough time rebounding

You have a tendency to post statistics without context. I don't know if that's because you don't understand the context, or if you just enjoy being argumentative and contrary.

Edit: And he was wrong. He didn't mention defensive rebounding. You did.

I think maybe you're smart enough to understand that Cal coaches a style that is not conducive to great defensive rebounding stats. But you would rather throw out zingers.

 

[The_Answer1313]

You have a tendency to post statistics without context. I don't know if that's because you don't understand the context, or if you just enjoy being argumentative and contrary.

Not sure what your talking about. The fact that we have been a poor defensive team in previous years under Cal doesn't change the fact that we are poor this season as well.

The last two years we ranked 211th and 253rd in defensive rebounding %.

Before that in all of the other Cal years......low 100s.

So while we were poor before, we are way worse this year and last year.

 

[The_Answer1313]

You have a tendency to post statistics without context. I don't know if that's because you don't understand the context, or if you just enjoy being argumentative and contrary.

Edit: And he was wrong. He didn't mention defensive rebounding. You did.

I think maybe you're smart enough to understand that Cal coaches a style that is not conducive to great defensive rebounding stats. But you would rather throw out zingers.

I already stated SOME of the reason why we are poor on the boards defensively, but I guess you choose to ignore that part.

It explains some of it, not all of it

 

[Aike]

Not sure what your talking about. The fact that we have been a poor defensive team in previous years under Cal doesn't change the fact that we are poor this season as well.

The last two years we ranked 211th and 253rd in defensive rebounding %.

Before that in all of the other Cal years......low 100s.

So while we were poor before, we are way worse this year and last year.

It doesn't change it. It provides context.

Our low defensive rebounding rate is at least partially by design.

We are 7th in block rate. Going for more blocks = getting less rebounds.

You can't do it all. So I don't think "poor" is the correct term. If we didn't block shots and we went to the defensive glass with 5 guys every time and were still routinely in the 100s or worse, then I would agree we were poor.

Anyway, you changed the original loser argument that we are the worst UK rebounding team ever. We aren't.

 

[fatguy87]

The puzzling thing is this team rebounds 38% of their misses. We ranked 12th in offensive rebounding.

Defensively tho........31.6% and 253rd in the nation.

I understand some of that is going for blocked shots and being outta position. Under Cal we have already been great on the offensive side of rebounding but poor defensively.

But it's just hard for me to grasp and understand. If u can get a board on offense, you can get one one defense.

Offensive and defensive rebounding are two different skills. It behaves as such on an individual level as well. Just think about the starting position. When defending, you tend to play between your man and the hoop. This creates different rebounding environments between offensive and defensive perspectives.

Cal's teams, especially recently, make a compromise between opponent 2 FG% and offensive rebounding. We give up some offensive rebounds in exchange for challenging 2's, decreasing 2 FG%.

 

[Aike]

Not sure what your talking about. The fact that we have been a poor defensive team in previous years under Cal doesn't change the fact that we are poor this season as well.

The last two years we ranked 211th and 253rd in defensive rebounding %.

Before that in all of the other Cal years......low 100s.

So while we were poor before, we are way worse this year and last year.

You know exactly what I'm talking about. You make a habit of cherry picking stats to support loser arguments. Usually punctuated with an "lol." Because you are so hilarious.

 

[The_Answer1313]

You know exactly what I'm talking about. You make a habit of cherry picking stats to support loser arguments. Usually punctuated with an "lol." Because you are so hilarious.

no. I don't. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anyone else.

We are all UK fans here.

I'm just making the point that offensive rebounds and defensive rebounds are two different things and we have been real poor on the defensive side.
Bringing up our full rebound rate and saying it's top in the country doesn't explain things properly

 

[The_Answer1313]

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Cal's teams, especially recently, make a compromise between opponent 2 FG% and offensive rebounding. We give up some offensive rebounds in exchange for challenging 2's, decreasing 2 FG%.

Agreed about the give and take. And in the end, it helps our defensive efficiency more than it hurts it because the lower opposing FG% (and the blocked shots) help more than giving up the boards hurts.

I get that. I guess what I'm wondering is does that completely describe it. I'm not so certain it does. There are other teams that block alot of shots and try to alter shots. Do they rebound as poor as we do?

Is the correlation strong is what I'm wondering between going for blocks and giving up boards?

 

[Rhavicc]

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum.

He didn't make a personal attack, he told a fact. You absolutely did troll the football board non-stop. We don't need it here, so get it out.

 

[Aike]

Washington, Oregon, and Bethune-Cookman are top 3 in block rate.

In defensive rebounding rate, they rank 338, 240, 345.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Washington, Oregon, and Bethune-Cookman are top 3 in block rate.

In defensive rebounding rate, they rank 338, 240, 345.

Right but look at Michigan, Ohio St and Louisville.

Seems to be a mixed bag to me

 

[The_Answer1313]

That's what I'm wondering

Take all the teams, look at Block % and look at defensive rebounding %

What's the correlation? I'm don't know but I'm curious to find out.

 

[Aike]

Right but look at Michigan, Ohio St and Louisville.

Seems to be a mixed bag to me

How many do they send to the boards versus leak out?

Are their individual freaks who affect the numbers? Guys who both block and recover shots? Guys who rebound at a high clip?

Obviously personnel has made our numbers worse on the defensive boards this year, but they are never great. Speaks to scheme above all else.

 

[screwduke]

He didn't make a personal attack, he told a fact. You absolutely did troll the football board non-stop. We don't need it here, so get it out.

Him and Andre have spilled over to the basketball board

 

[fatguy87]

Agreed about the give and take. And in the end, it helps our defensive efficiency more than it hurts it because the lower opposing FG% (and the blocked shots) help more than giving up the boards hurts.

I get that. I guess what I'm wondering is does that completely describe it. I'm not so certain it does. There are other teams that block alot of shots and try to alter shots. Do they rebound as poor as we do?

Is the correlation strong is what I'm wondering between going for blocks and giving up boards?

I doubt there is much correlation at all between blocking shots and defensive rebounding. The correlation between block rate and FG% is relatively strong, however.

The defensive rebounding issue was obvious, but the lack of turnovers by A&M probably contributed as much or more to their victory.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Yeah not turning them over definitely did not help things. I think that's something that gets lost in all the rebounding and technical foul talk.

And probably also cause we took care of the ball as well so people don't see it as much an issue.

But it was. They took care of the ball and even tho we held them to a decent FG%, it had an effect.

 

[caneintally]

Our rebounding rate still ranks 36th in the country, even though our top rebounder has missed the past 5 games.

We are actually a decent rebounding team when healthy.

Well that should shut up the moronic OP . WE aren't a great rebounding team but when Poy and Willis play we a good one.

 

[Blueaz]

All I'm saying is he's not wrong. We aren't a great defensive rebounding team.

And we are a great offensive rebounding team.

That coupled with taking out our best def rebounder in Poy and then losing Willis and then Lee fouling out...well your gonna have a tough time rebounding

There is a difference in not being wrong and being right. While being an asshat that will probably "report" .
OP is just an argumentative troll. Even if he is not incorrect.

 

[SDcatfan13]

I'm sure glad we don't recruit a hang around 4 star bruiser for times like these. Just need more long athletes for 1 year.

Hey Skal is still lottery.

Who are Wynyard and Humphries? Calipari can't predict that Briscoe would be a poor shooter this year as he was at least solid in high school.

 

[.S&C.]

Who are Wynyard and Humphries? Calipari can't predict that Briscoe would be a poor shooter this year as he was at least solid in high school.

true, but we could do a little more in this area instead of desperation.